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Bubba Smith posted:Hey gang, haven't had enough of that Ken Shamrock photo yet? Then please listen to the end of the Bellator 138 conference call when Kimbo Slice is asked about that photo and PEDs in general and right as he's about to be honest the conference call conveniently ends.
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willie_dee posted:uh oh
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Wise Learned Man posted:I take it JT is on gear? you don't have to answer that, willie. James has a clean heart, that's all that matters
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http://mmajunkie.com/2015/06/james-thompson-injured-dan-charles-steps-in-vs-bobby-lashley-at-bellator-138 Interesting timing
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Ogantai posted:Ken's an undianabol inspiration. All you have to do is eat clen, tren hard, anavar give up. I can't stanozolol your puns. You're really a masteron this topic. I mean those are some choice, primobolan puns. We'll see if Ken's body fell apart or if he's durabolin the fight. Then we'll find out if he can really take those big shots while keeping his composure and equipoise.
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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:I can't stanozolol your puns. Well now we've driven this into the ground we can go back to being sad that JT is out
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Will we really be seeing more gasout fights? Don't some PEDs impede your cardio? Hmm now that I think about it, what Mark Kerr described happening to him - gassing from using too many roids - seems a lot like what happened to Carwin vs Lesnar...
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CommonShore posted:Will we really be seeing more gasout fights? Don't some PEDs impede your cardio? You have to be careful because not all PEDs are roids. EPO is the first one that comes to mind. I don't think Lance was trying to get yoked.
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The Sphinxster posted:You have to be careful because not all PEDs are roids. EPO is the first one that comes to mind. I don't think Lance was trying to get yoked. Yeah, I realize that. But do you think that your average B-level meathead who calls himself The Rhino and calls anyone who won't trade chin hooks with him a coward is taking EPO for cardio, or is he going out and shooting moose hormones into his rear end to get more power so that he gets more KOs for zombieprophet to gif and tweet? If all of the PEDs go away, we'll probably see gassier fights at high level, and less gassy fights at lower levels.
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I just learned that people think if they do cardio on cycles they run the risk of getting swole ticker disease. This explains quite a bit about b league (and every other league) fighters.
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CommonShore posted:Will we really be seeing more gasout fights? Don't some PEDs impede your cardio? If out-of-competition testing is going to be random and thorough, everyone will have to reduce the intensity of their training camps and we'll probably see a few things: -More injuries -Fewer fights per year -Fighters losing lean muscle mass -Slower pace fights -Earlier retirement I want to say fighters will have to stay closer to their competition shape year-round without putting on 20lbs of Mandarin between camps but that's unlikely. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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The Sphinxster posted:I just learned that people think if they do cardio on cycles they run the risk of getting swole ticker disease. This explains quite a bit about b league (and every other league) fighters. Isn't that exactly why Eddie Guerrero croaked?
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Shumagorath posted:Anabolic steroids don't automatically make you gain lean muscle mass; you have to do the same work to stimulate muscle growth. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101?viewType=Print&viewClass=Print& But: "Among the men in the no-exercise groups, those given testosterone had greater increases than those given placebo in muscle size in their arms (mean [±SE] change in triceps area, 424±104 vs. -81±109 mm2; P<0.05) and legs (change in quadriceps area, 607±123 vs. -131±111 mm2; P<0.05) and greater increases in strength in the bench-press (9±4 vs. -1±1 kg, P<0.05) and squatting exercises (16±4 vs. 3±1 kg, P<0.05)" The guys on test didn't have to do anything to get a boost. Of course, the ones who also exercised got a more dramatic improvement.
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Wise Learned Man posted:I take it JT is on gear? Don't be loving daft now mate. He said a long time ago in an interview he dabbled when he was body building before he knew what mma was but he wouldn't of been able to fight at the level he does whilst on gear because top mma organisations test.
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kimbo305 posted:This old study is about straight test and not anabolic steroids: This study is old but it's very well done and is used constantly for teaching in sports and nutrition degrees. There's usually only a very small difference in the chemical structure of testosterone and anabolic steroids (which is obvious because it has to bind to the same receptors) but those small chemical changes can account for huge differences in metabolism, some being less effective than testosterone and some being much, much more effective. But they're basically all working via the same mechanism of action until you get into the big boy drugs like SARMs with longass alpha-numeric code names that only suicidal bodybuilders dare to touch.
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Triticum Guzzler posted:This study is old but it's very well done and is used constantly for teaching in sports and nutrition degrees. There's usually only a very small difference in the chemical structure of testosterone and anabolic steroids (which is obvious because it has to bind to the same receptors) but those small chemical changes can account for huge differences in metabolism, some being less effective than testosterone and some being much, much more effective. But they're basically all working via the same mechanism of action until you get into the big boy drugs like SARMs with longass alpha-numeric code names that only suicidal bodybuilders dare to touch. I wonder what the chart for high level PED use looks like nowadays. Obviously mentally ill bodybuilders are and will always be at the top since they're not concerned with being tested or dying, but I wonder how the recent scandals and increases in testing have changed things if at all.
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Hahaha, this Bollywood remake of Warrior looks amaaaaazing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQO8LZ1Vh74
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Triticum Guzzler posted:But they're basically all working via the same mechanism of action until you get into the big boy drugs like SARMs with longass alpha-numeric code names that only suicidal bodybuilders dare to touch. 
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Kimbo Slice posted:"I just hope they fuckin' pad his hands up, so he don't cut himself, and they keep all sharp objects away from him this time," Slice said. "Like what is he gonna do next time, gonna shoot himself in the foot? I don't know what Ken's gonna do man, I just hope he fights and takes this fight. Dude, you do poo poo like that when you're scared, when you're afraid, as close as it comes to committing suicide."
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Kimbo vs. [eventually not] Shamrock was the first MMA card I ever watched live. Seems quaint looking back on it, but when you're a dumbass teenager raised on watching terrible streetfights on lovely pre-youtube video clip websites Kimbo had some serious appeal.
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Invicta finally found their next Cyborg victim and also finalized the rest of the card: http://invictafc.com/invicta-fc-13-official-for-las-vegas-on-july-9quote:The full seven-fight card for Invicta FC 13 can be found below: Van Duin did that cool choke on the last Invicta card but aside from that I don't know anything about her. The other two title fights should be good I think, though if Aldana wins I dunno how long she'll reign as champ before just going to the UFC along with Grasso. I can't think of many at W135 in the UFC whose hands look this good.
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attackmole posted:Kimbo vs. [eventually not] Shamrock was the first MMA card I ever watched live. Seems quaint looking back on it, but when you're a dumbass teenager raised on watching terrible streetfights on lovely pre-youtube video clip websites Kimbo had some serious appeal. No need to be shamed for being a Kimbo mark. We all have been there somepoint in our life
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Interesting they put Shafir opening a card Cyborg is closing. It's surely a coincidence, but I could see them talking up a Rousey Cyborg fight nonstop during those two bouts.
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individual865 posted:Hahaha, this Bollywood remake of Warrior looks amaaaaazing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQO8LZ1Vh74 not enough singing and dancing numbers.
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Kimbo and Ken are now both publicly advocating PED use for MMA http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/452522/Kimbo-Shamrock-make-case-for-PED-use/ Keepin it classy Bellator
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I mean this - Kimbo came off pretty well in his season of TUF. My dad tuned in to hate him and ended up thinking he was the nicest guy on the show. Also, "The InnerMe!"
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War Machine update: still crazyquote:"This is the way of an adulterous woman: she eats and wipes her mouth, and says, 'I have done no wickedness.'" Proverbs 30:20
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He should demand a trial by combat.
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Lost For Words posted:War Machine update: still crazy user/post hyper combo. Goddamn, I feel so dumb for giving that guy the benefit of the doubt.
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holy poo poo I think I still get Spike TV.
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Shumagorath posted:He should demand a trial by combat. Still a good chance he'd lose.
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Captain Log posted:I mean this - Kimbo came off pretty well in his season of TUF. "The enemy is the inner knee" is still one of the best GDT titles.
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CommonShore posted:Will we really be seeing more gasout fights? Don't some PEDs impede your cardio? The Sphinxster posted:You have to be careful because not all PEDs are roids. EPO is the first one that comes to mind. I don't think Lance was trying to get yoked. The important thing is to tailor your chemical cocktail to your training. Different types of training and different PED's react differently. Yeah, when Hendo was on TRT, he said when he took more than he was supposed to he could hit harder but his gas tank went to poo poo, so he tried to stay around the recommended 4:1 ratio. It's like the Vitor school of PED's, develop a ton of muscle/power via PED's, but you have to win early because moving around all that muscle mass will deplete your energy systems fast. The other is to use more recovery-oriented PED's, such as EPO and hyperbaric chambers, etc, to recover faster from training so as to get more training in. Then you can cycle off before the fight while still retaining enough muscle memory and enough volume of training to do well in the fight. Almost like cramming before an exam. TRT will also have the same effect but to a lesser degree of a dedicated drug, it mainly enhances whatever type of training you do.
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Dropping this off here. The yearly 27 on 27 mma bout with a ball is happening and I made a thread. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3725616
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Seltzer posted:Dropping this off here. The yearly 27 on 27 mma bout with a ball is happening and I made a thread. So can guys just square off in these games and completely ignore whats going on with the ball?
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Le Saboteur posted:So can guys just square off in these games and completely ignore whats going on with the ball? Ask in the thread!!!
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Seltzer posted:Dropping this off here. The yearly 27 on 27 mma bout with a ball is happening and I made a thread. This is actually starting now.
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