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I'm gosh darn sick of the Left Agenda! Oh I'm sorry I mean the Left AGENDER     #notmysciencefiction
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Jun 10, 2015 01:41
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If there's anything I can take from this, it's that John C. Wright is still a giant pile of crazy.
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Jun 10, 2015 01:43
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Wow, I didn't know JCW's daughter was born in Chinese. Also, his post is pretty much "you know who else would have been social justice warriors?  "
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Jun 10, 2015 01:45
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From what she said it seems an apology and retraction should be satisfying. But so many of the comments on the Tor Facebook page are calling for Irene's head,i t just drowns out any sympathy I could have for them.
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Jun 10, 2015 01:46
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my bony fealty posted:
Maybe. I think the trailer was just very out of sequence. Like where they placed the hydrazine explosion to match all the other exciting stuff.
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Jun 10, 2015 03:32
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Finished the Goblin Emperor. It was good book that would have been better if the author had come up with a less irritating set of titles and names.
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Jun 10, 2015 05:27
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Sorry to interrupt movie chat but I have been wondering something recently.. What is there for YA sci Fi, or is it even a thing? Lately there's been a lot of stuff like hunger games and maze runner but they really aren't sci fi.
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Jun 10, 2015 05:56
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Chaos Walking? Mortal Engines?
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Jun 10, 2015 06:15
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coyo7e posted:Sorry to interrupt movie chat but I have been wondering something recently.. What is there for YA sci Fi, or is it even a thing? Lately there's been a lot of stuff like hunger games and maze runner but they really aren't sci fi. the hunger games is a futuristic dystopia and sci fi is a big tent, how does it not fit in there exactly? not enough laser swords?
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Jun 10, 2015 06:19
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coyo7e posted:Sorry to interrupt movie chat but I have been wondering something recently.. What is there for YA sci Fi, or is it even a thing? Lately there's been a lot of stuff like hunger games and maze runner but they really aren't sci fi. Almost all Golden Age SF and half of everything Heinlein ever wrote is technically YA. If there's less modern YA SF, it's probably just current publishing trends.
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Jun 10, 2015 06:20
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coyo7e posted:Sorry to interrupt movie chat but I have been wondering something recently.. What is there for YA sci Fi, or is it even a thing? Lately there's been a lot of stuff like hunger games and maze runner but they really aren't sci fi. If you want somewhere to start, The Locus Young Adult Award has been around since 2003. It does cover Fantasy and Science Fiction, though, and probably leans more Fantasy A full list of nominees with covers can be found here The winners so far are : 2003 Neil Gaiman - Coraline 2004 Terry Pratchett -The Wee Free Men 2005 Terry Pratchett - A Hat Full of Sky 2006 Jane Yolen & Adam Stemple - Pay the Piper: A Rock 'N' Roll Fairy Tale 2007 Terry Pratchett - Wintersmith 2008 China Miéville - Un Lun Dun 2009 Neil Gaiman - The Graveyard Book 2010 Scott Westerfeld - Leviathan 2011 Paolo Bacigalupi - Ship Breaker 2012 Catherynne M. Valente - The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making 2013 China Miéville -Railsea 2014 Catherynne M. Valente - The Girl Who Soared Over Fairyland and Cut the Moon in Two
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Jun 10, 2015 12:27
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I've read The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making it wasn't too bad. I'll have to look up that sequel. Any recommendations for lighter reads that aren't terrible? Something to intersperse between Seveneves, Echopraxia, and the like. Something like the Powder Mage trilogy, the Matthew Swift series, or the Laundry Files, all of which I enjoyed just fine.
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Jun 10, 2015 13:35
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evilbastard posted:If you want somewhere to start, The Locus Young Adult Award has been around since 2003. It does cover Fantasy and Science Fiction, though, and probably leans more Fantasy Ship Breaker is YA?  Also, a very good list.
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Jun 10, 2015 13:48
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http://subterraneanpress.com/store/product_detail/deep_navigation_ebook Alastair Reynold's limited-press collection Deep Navigation is now not just a really pricey hardcover: you can get it as an ebook! Not sure on what territories it's available in... It's a pretty good collection... although not as good as Zima Blue. I wrote a blog post with story-by-story thoughts a while back: https://outtherebooks.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/story-by-story-thoughts-deep-navigation-by-alastair-reynolds/
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Jun 10, 2015 14:47
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Cardiac posted:Ship Breaker is YA? YA isn't largely defined by reading level or subject matter (though those do factor in). I asked my wife who at the time was working in a library what made a book YA and the strongest classifier is the age of the protagonist. If the person's a teen, it's YA.
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Jun 10, 2015 15:52
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Bear Sleuth posted:YA isn't largely defined by reading level or subject matter (though those do factor in). I asked my wife who at the time was working in a library what made a book YA and the strongest classifier is the age of the protagonist. If the person's a teen, it's YA. Mark Lawrence's Broken Empire trilogy, a classic young adult series. Robin Hobb's Farseer Trilogy, also a much-loved YA series.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:30
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andrew smash posted:the hunger games is a futuristic dystopia and sci fi is a big tent, how does it not fit in there exactly? not enough laser swords? I was checking out a new show on Disney, Miles From Tomorrowland, and I realized that there really isn't any sci fi for kids like that that I am aware of, and that isn't older than I am and mostly considered to be YA simply because it is so old it is pretty tame.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:32
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A Clockwork Orange, the timeless YA classic of love overcoming brainwashing.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:32
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coyo7e posted:Sorry to interrupt movie chat but I have been wondering something recently.. What is there for YA sci Fi, or is it even a thing? Lately there's been a lot of stuff like hunger games and maze runner but they really aren't sci fi.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:37
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I guess it's worth saying that society and social systems are technologies, which is why we have great science fiction like 1984, The Giver, and Brave New World. But genre arguments should really be left to the marketing department.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:42
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Nevvy Z posted:I've read The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making it wasn't too bad. I'll have to look up that sequel.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:43
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General Battuta posted:I guess it's worth saying that society and social systems are technologies, which is why we have great science fiction like 1984, The Giver, and Brave New World. Kids. In. Space. Allen Steele's Coyote could almost fit if it wasn't so full of politics and the first book was the only one with kid protagonists iirc.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:45
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Ornamented Death posted:Mark Lawrence's Broken Empire trilogy, a classic young adult series. Just passing along on how it was explained to me. Exceptions abound in all classifications. When I went looking for John Dies at the End a few years back it was shelved in Literature instead of Sci-Fi/Fantasy. But on a whole, when books are classified as YA it's for the age of the protagonist. I'm not saying that makes every book with a teen YA, but that YA books will have teen as main character. *cue chorus of exceptions* Ship Breaker was classified as YA from pre-promotional materials on, just trying to explain why the publisher went that route.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:56
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Bear Sleuth posted:YA isn't largely defined by reading level or subject matter (though those do factor in). I asked my wife who at the time was working in a library what made a book YA and the strongest classifier is the age of the protagonist. If the person's a teen, it's YA. I read an essay once by Marion Summer Bradley that used the same definition, but she may not be the best authority to cite.
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Jun 10, 2015 17:49
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coyo7e posted:Alright let me clarify for everyone. I want YA sci Fi with space ships and poo poo. If the technology is not necessary to the world then it's not really fantas-I mean sci Fi, right? If it is older than 20 I am well aware of it and probably have a copy. Have you ever heard of a little series called Bio of a Space Tyrant? 
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Jun 10, 2015 19:26
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coyo7e posted:Alright let me clarify for everyone. I want YA sci Fi with space ships and poo poo. If the technology is not necessary to the world then it's not really fantas-I mean sci Fi, right? If it is older than 20 I am well aware of it and probably have a copy. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9069545-up-against-it This is a really really fun and good book that I think may fit your bill.
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Jun 10, 2015 20:57
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Drifter posted:http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9069545-up-against-it That was a great loving book. I wish it had been more successful, IIRC it didn't sell well enough for the writer to do any more books.
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Jun 10, 2015 22:25
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coyo7e posted:Alright let me clarify for everyone. I want YA sci Fi with space ships and poo poo. If the technology is not necessary to the world then it's not really fantas-I mean sci Fi, right? If it is older than 20 I am well aware of it and probably have a copy. Chaos Walking is kids on alien planet. And besides, it's the best YA trilogy in ages. EDIT: OH! I thought of another one that maybe fits the bill better. Feed by M T Anderson.
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Jun 11, 2015 00:02
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So I just finished reading the second Greatcoats book (Knight's Shadow) and it's every bit as good as the first one was. I don't really want to say too much and spoil anything, but it's an incredibly safe bet if you enjoyed the first one at all.
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Jun 11, 2015 00:10
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Hedrigall posted:http://subterraneanpress.com/store/product_detail/deep_navigation_ebook Yeah, Australia is out.
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Jun 11, 2015 00:12
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In other news, Shrike. http://io9.com/dan-simmons-fan-bradley-cooper-is-finally-making-his-hy-1710428755
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Jun 11, 2015 01:34
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XBenedict posted:In other news, Shrike. An "event" (mini series?) series is the best way to adapt this. Man...it films itself, each episode is a character telling their story. Then it all falls apart for season 2.
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Jun 11, 2015 02:35
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CaptCommy posted:So I just finished reading the second Greatcoats book (Knight's Shadow) and it's every bit as good as the first one was. I don't really want to say too much and spoil anything, but it's an incredibly safe bet if you enjoyed the first one at all. It'd be nice if he eased off on the gratuitous torture sequences, though. It's starting to weird me out ever-so-slightly.
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Jun 11, 2015 02:40
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Darth Walrus posted:It'd be nice if he eased off on the gratuitous torture sequences, though. It's starting to weird me out ever-so-slightly. Yeah, that's totally fair. While I liked the scene itself, it did feel a little too reminiscent of the end of the first book.
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Jun 11, 2015 02:49
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With regards to Stephen Baxter's Xeelee series, remind me... can I start with Vacuum Diagrams? Is it even advisable to do so? The reason I ask: a new Xeelee short story collection is coming out soon.
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Jun 11, 2015 02:54
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Awesome, I loved the Xeelee sequence. In a related note, there's a collection of Baxter's short stories out now in the universe of Flood/Ark. It's... not good. Worth reading if you really liked those two books I guess, but it doesn't really add much and in true Baxter style it's fairly depressing stuff.
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Jun 11, 2015 02:56
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Hedrigall posted:With regards to Stephen Baxter's Xeelee series, remind me... can I start with Vacuum Diagrams? Is it even advisable to do so? Yes, start with Vacuum Diagrams. The Xeelee Omnibus has 4 (I think) novels, several of which have their first chapter or so as a short story in Vacuum Diagrams. Overall I liked Vacuum Diagrams better than the Omnibus.
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Jun 11, 2015 03:09
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CaptCommy posted:So I just finished reading the second Greatcoats book (Knight's Shadow) and it's every bit as good as the first one was. I don't really want to say too much and spoil anything, but it's an incredibly safe bet if you enjoyed the first one at all. I finished it two nights ago, and it was fantastic. I re-read the first one right before reading the second one, and they go so well together. If the remaining books stay on this level, this will be a series I'll re-read once a year or so when I need a pick-me-up.
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Jun 11, 2015 03:09
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XBenedict posted:In other news, Shrike. Oh my god, this might be amazing. Please let it stop after the first two books.
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