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I actually kind of like Doug Martin at his current ADP value. If you're going bottom-up strategy (WR/TE etc) you can sometimes grab the entire Tampa Bay backfield on your roster, which is A Thing (maybe a good thing? fantasy.txt) People forget that while Martin has been hurt for a good majority of the season (only playing 18 games the past two), he rushed for 1400+ yards his rookie season, had 49 receptions for 400+ yards, 12 total touchdowns and only 1 fumble lost. On top of that, he is in a contract year this year, so much like how Mark Ingram was a top runner last year, I think Martin could be a good gamble in the mid-late rounds. He is currently RB35 and overall pick #106 for ADP according to Fantasy Pros.
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Gyshall posted:I actually kind of like Doug Martin at his current ADP value. If you're going bottom-up strategy (WR/TE etc) you can sometimes grab the entire Tampa Bay backfield on your roster, which is A Thing (maybe a good thing? fantasy.txt) I feel like I read this post last year, minus the part about it being a contract year. drat you Doug Martin!
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If you're doing MFL10s, be careful how you set your Pre-Draft list or you'll end up like Purple Thunder over here, lol: http://football30.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=11787&O=07 He's got 4 QBs and 0 RBs after 9 rounds. Edit: Who is Former Kicker Ray Finkle? I think I remember you being in the Goon Slow Draft. I'm Quarter Roys - good luck dude. Quarterroys fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jun 7, 2015 |
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Cervixalot posted:If you're doing MFL10s, be careful how you set your Pre-Draft list or you'll end up like Purple Thunder over here, lol: That's me! I'm Former Kicker Ray Finkle. also MrSargent posted:I feel like I read this post last year, minus the part about it being a contract year. drat you Doug Martin! Yeah Martin is my New Kenny Britt, but actually my new Mark Ingram, where I draft him all the time no matter what. Ingram I've drafted since his rookie season, and seeing him blow up last year finally gave me hope. Martin's rookie season was really, really good, though - the point is to not make him your RB1 but your RB3/4 with upside. Hightlight reel but whatevs, look at some of the runs he breaks off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffw9EBOSlew
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Kenny Britt aka two games made him a superstar among fantasy players
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Metapod posted:Kenny Britt aka two games made him a superstar among fantasy players It only took Doug Martin one game.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It only took Doug Martin one game. i seriously hate martin for that game of all weeks for him to do that it had to be against me
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How do you rank the top RB's? What I've generally seen is top tier (rankings based on current ECR): Jamaal Charles Le'Veon Bell Adrian Peterson Matt Forte Eddie Lacy Marshawn Lynch Arian Foster 2nd tier: LeSean McCoy CJ Anderson DeMarco Murray Jeremy Hill However, I've seen more variance than I think there was in previous years. All 4 PFF graders put Forte as 2nd tier, ranking him 7/8/9/11. I'm also surprised Murray is getting marked down that far, you'd think the Eagles offense would be good to him. 1. How do you rank them? 2. In a PPR league where do you begin drafting WR's in the first round over them? I'm looking at the Sablich Brothers ranking, they have 6 WR's and Gronk in their top 12. Same with the Tozzi Brothers except they have Jimmy Graham. Those 6 are Brown, OBJ, D. Thomas, Dez, Julio and Jordy/Calvin. Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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Its Miller Time posted:How do you rank the top RB's? Here's my top 2 tiers: Guys I'd pick in the first: Le'Veon Bell Adrian Peterson Jamaal Charles Eddie Lacy Marshawn Lynch Guys I'd pick in the second: Arian Foster Matt Forte CJ Anderson DeMarco Murray Jeremy Hill Justin Forsett Frank Gore LeSean McCoy I'm probably higher than most on Forsett and Gore, but I believe they will both be RB1s in PPR leagues. Gronk should go in the top 10, and possibly even top 5 due to how much of a ridiculous positional advantage he gives you at TE.
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Just looking over that list, it seems like there's more "good" RB's than normal. Beyond the names above you also have some very decent prospects in Forsett, Ellington, Lamar Miller, Gore, Ingram, Spiller, Morris, Hyde and the rookies. On the other hand, Julian Edelman and Jordan Matthews are 17 and 18 in ECR. Anyone else notice this trend this year? I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel relying on names like Keenan Allen, B. Marshall, D. Jackson, Tate, Watkins, Maclin, V. Jax... Even going past 20 in the RB's you have good names - Yeldon, Coleman, Blount, R. Jennings, Abdullah, Sims...
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Le'Veon Bell? (In addition to not playing football for 3 games this year for smoking hella weed, Bell is less than seven months out from this hyperextension) Forsett is going to be a monster in PPR this year. Would give serious consideration to Gronk #1 overall in PPR.
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Its Miller Time posted:Just looking over that list, it seems like there's more "good" RB's than normal. Beyond the names above you also have some very decent prospects in Forsett, Ellington, Lamar Miller, Gore, Ingram, Spiller, Morris, Hyde and the rookies. On the other hand, Julian Edelman and Jordan Matthews are 17 and 18 in ECR. Anyone else notice this trend this year? I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel relying on names like Keenan Allen, B. Marshall, D. Jackson, Tate, Watkins, Maclin, V. Jax... Even going past 20 in the RB's you have good names - Yeldon, Coleman, Blount, R. Jennings, Abdullah, Sims... Jonathan Stewart too. He's finally the undisputed #1 RB in a collegiate style offense.
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I wonder if there are hard numbers to support this, but it definitely feels like there are more viable fantasy players than ever at pretty much every position except TE. I know NFL offenses have been throwing more in the last few years and are slowly becoming more like the college game, but it still feels crazy to see some of the production available in the top 50 picks. You can go with pretty much any draft strategy that you want because there are like 15-20 solid RBs and 25-30 great WRs available, with like 15 serviceable QBs that will be there in the later rounds.
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VDay posted:I wonder if there are hard numbers to support this, but it definitely feels like there are more viable fantasy players than ever at pretty much every position except TE. I know NFL offenses have been throwing more in the last few years and are slowly becoming more like the college game, but it still feels crazy to see some of the production available in the top 50 picks. You can go with pretty much any draft strategy that you want because there are like 15-20 solid RBs and 25-30 great WRs available, with like 15 serviceable QBs that will be there in the later rounds.  but it is still june, training camps and what not will spin the hype machine into full force
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Le'veon Bell is a second tier RB for me, mostly because of the suspension. I want my best player on the field every week. The most games a player can play during the regular season (in my league at least) is 13. Drafting Bell guarantees I would be playing nearly a quarter of the regular season without my best player. What if he gets off to a slow start on top of that? Or what if he gets banged up for a game or two? Give me someone like Foster or Lynch instead. I'd rather have a guy giving me 90% of the production for potentially all the games than someone who gives a little bit more but isn't available.
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Enforka posted:
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Benne posted:
Remember when Demarco Murray and Gronkowski were "injury-prone" and therefore not worth early picks? They played the whole year. Foster could do the same. Bell cannot. Yet the possibility of Foster getting banged up is somehow considered worse than the guarantee of Bell missing those games- and conceivably more unless he manages to stay 100% healthy over the entire year.
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There is no way in hell I take Foster over Bell.
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Yeah I'd take Bell over Foster at least. I just don't understand the 1.01 L. Bell picks when he has so much going against him. e: Bell might have his suspension reduced but even still.
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I mean if he wasn't suspended I don't see how he isn't the first overall pick. Dude was basically averaging 200 yards from scrimmage every game. He's a beast. His suspension definitely hurts, but he's still easily a first round pick. I'm keeping him in the third round in my league and I couldn't be happier.
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RCarr posted:I mean if he wasn't suspended I don't see how he isn't the first overall pick. Dude was basically averaging 200 yards from scrimmage every game. He's a beast. His suspension definitely hurts, but he's still easily a first round pick. I'm keeping him in the third round in my league and I couldn't be happier. He is less than 7 months removed from a pretty serious knee injury that the Steelers were very mum/secretive about in the playoffs. Also he himself says he's not back at 100% yet: Rotoworld posted:Le'Veon Bell says his right knee is "close" to 100 percent. I think there are some serious warning flags for him right now for being a first round pick. He has great talent and he looked great last year, but his suspension isn't the only thing you should be concerned about right now when evaluating him as a fantasy pick.
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VDay posted:I wonder if there are hard numbers to support this, but it definitely feels like there are more viable fantasy players than ever at pretty much every position except TE. I know NFL offenses have been throwing more in the last few years and are slowly becoming more like the college game, but it still feels crazy to see some of the production available in the top 50 picks. You can go with pretty much any draft strategy that you want because there are like 15-20 solid RBs and 25-30 great WRs available, with like 15 serviceable QBs that will be there in the later rounds. I'm not sure I follow. If WRs in general this year score more points than WRs in previous years, that essentially just makes every fantasy team score more points, it doesn't make any particular draft strategy more or less effective. What matters isn't where the replacement-level player is, what matters is where your starters are compared to the replacement-level players. What made late-QB drafting viable was the compression of the field relative to positional scaricity, where decreases in expected value across QB ranks into the late rounds were a) marginal and b) relatively linear (this is also part of the reason why we draft defenses and kickers after TEs despite the fact that they often score more that TEs). RB and WR still feel pretty steep to me, where you see an exponential decrease at the top followed by a minor differences in the mid and late rounds.
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Azhais posted:Are suspended players allowed to attend training camp? I do not believe so, last year Josh Gordon could because the suspension hadn't been handed down yet.
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Azhais posted:Are suspended players allowed to attend training camp? Yeah, they are. Their suspensions affect the regular season. In a case like Gordon, Blackmon or AD, they weren't just suspended, but had to wait a period to apply for reinstatement. A couple of games doesn't affect training camps.
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Thanks for the feedback earlier gentlemen.
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RCarr posted:I mean if he wasn't suspended I don't see how he isn't the first overall pick. Dude was basically averaging 200 yards from scrimmage every game. He's a beast. His suspension definitely hurts, but he's still easily a first round pick. I'm keeping him in the third round in my league and I couldn't be happier.
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RCarr posted:There is no way in hell I take Foster over Bell. Bell had 85.1 Y/G Rushing, 53.4 Y/G Recieving and 11 TDs (.68 TD/G). Bell averaged 17 PPG. Foster had 95.8 Y/G Rushing, 25.2 Y/G Recieving, 13 TDs (1 TD/G) and two fumbles (-.1 ppg). Foster averaged 17.1 PPG. The knock against Foster isn't his talent, it's his health. And that alone is pretty much enough to knock Foster from the early first to the late first, early second. But if Foster has a three game handicap, who is to say he couldn't wind up playing more games and providing more production this year?
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Am I being a dumbass for keeping two D/ST in my dynasty league? We have pretty large rosters (30 spots including IR) so the waiver is pretty bare and we've already had our rookie draft. Should I drop the texans or the cardinals and pick up Bobby Rainey/Jordan Todman/Allan Hurns/Boobie Dixon/Lance Dunbar/Marcedes Lewis?
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Thelonius Van Funk posted:Am I being a dumbass for keeping two D/ST in my dynasty league? We have pretty large rosters (30 spots including IR) so the waiver is pretty bare and we've already had our rookie draft. Should I drop the texans or the cardinals and pick up Bobby Rainey/Jordan Todman/Allan Hurns/Boobie Dixon/Lance Dunbar/Marcedes Lewis? edit: and it's not a 6 team league or the 181st best player / top of the wire would be better than ~Bobby Rainey. pangstrom fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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It's a 12 person league! I'll angle for a trade when someone's regular D/ST is nearing a bye week then
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Thelonius Van Funk posted:Am I being a dumbass for keeping two D/ST in my dynasty league? We have pretty large rosters (30 spots including IR) so the waiver is pretty bare and we've already had our rookie draft. Should I drop the texans or the cardinals and pick up Bobby Rainey/Jordan Todman/Allan Hurns/Boobie Dixon/Lance Dunbar/Marcedes Lewis? That's a large enough roster that holding on to defenses makes sense.
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Thelonius Van Funk posted:Am I being a dumbass for keeping two D/ST in my dynasty league? We have pretty large rosters (30 spots including IR) so the waiver is pretty bare and we've already had our rookie draft. Should I drop the texans or the cardinals and pick up Bobby Rainey/Jordan Todman/Allan Hurns/Boobie Dixon/Lance Dunbar/Marcedes Lewis? I play in a 10man dynasty league with 30 roster spots and rock two DSTs. I dabble in 3 during the season if I feel I need to.
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If I'm keeping Peterson (no penalty, every keeper is the first round pick), and another top RB is left over (Lacy), I take him and run laughing and screaming and crying, right? Or do I go for a top WR / Gronk?
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fariz posted:If I'm keeping Peterson (no penalty, every keeper is the first round pick), and another top RB is left over (Lacy), I take him and run laughing and screaming and crying, right? Or do I go for a top WR / Gronk? Ride Lacy and Peterson to the championship IMO but I'm still a big believer in RB being the most consistent position in fantasy. E: In my 3 years of winning championships I had absolute stud RBs (last year my idiot league went nuts with WRs and QBs so I managed to get Forte/Murray/Bell and I rode those ponies all the way without breaking a sweat).
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fariz posted:If I'm keeping Peterson (no penalty, every keeper is the first round pick), and another top RB is left over (Lacy), I take him and run laughing and screaming and crying, right? Or do I go for a top WR / Gronk? What other RB options are there? What WR options are there? How many players and what are the scoring settings/rosters? EDIT: Most likely, this is what you should do, but there can be other factors that affect this.
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.5 PPR, 1QB, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1r/w Lacy is the only tier 1 RB not being kept. After him there are guys like Foster / Hill / Anderson WR options are Megatron, Dez, Julio, OBJ (pretty much every one really)
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Yeah barring some weird/specific circumstances or scoring, I'd happily take that and then just pick up the best WR available with the next pick. e: Posted right before the above post.
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Any chance Hill falls to you next round if you grab Dez?
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Patriots waived Tim Wright Remember when he was supposed to be the next big star
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