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Thanks for the advice, I'll give the game another try later. It's just getting past the OCD perfectionist in me who quails at the thought of losing even the most useless, fear-crippled idiot that's hard, is all. v v
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Remember with darkest dungeon: You are NOT a friend to your heroes! You are a ruthless bastard of a football coach and you will run them into the ground, then toss them aside like the spent husks they are. Keep the ones that prove themselves until they too prove to be more work then reward. E: Or as someone just put it to me; "John Madden's Cthulhu Manager." Thyrork fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jun 7, 2015 |
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What makes a good hero to keep then, and therefore keep safe and sane, as opposed to the ones I let die horribly/chuck away when they've gone barmy?
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Ciaphas posted:What makes a good hero to keep then, and therefore keep safe and sane, as opposed to the ones I let die horribly/chuck away when they've gone barmy? You could do what I do and be completely irrational and base the decision on things like "this leper critted on two attacks in a row and completely wrecked everything - he's a keeper"
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Jun 8, 2015 03:22
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Ciaphas posted:What makes a good hero to keep then, and therefore keep safe and sane, as opposed to the ones I let die horribly/chuck away when they've gone barmy? As long as they don't have debilitating negative quirks (i.e. diseases that aren't rabies), they're worth keeping. Hell, if you have an adventurer with lots of positive quirks with very few quirks who ends up getting a disease, just send them to the sanitarium to keep them in tip-top shape. Otherwise, don't sweat most of the negative quirks.
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Ciaphas posted:What makes a good hero to keep then, and therefore keep safe and sane, as opposed to the ones I let die horribly/chuck away when they've gone barmy? 1) You can pamper heroes when you have money to blow, i.e. after you've made it out of the early game rut and started winning missions. 2) When their trait combo is just plain godly; +move resist, +melee accuracy, +hitpoints on a Leper for instance. If a guy like that gets high stress or a disease, fix his issue or let him sit on the bench for while if you don't have the money. 3) If you need a tank or especially a healer next run and the stage coach doesn't have another for you to grab. I definitely go out of my way more to help my Vestals more than any other class starting out.
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Ciaphas posted:What makes a good hero to keep then, and therefore keep safe and sane, as opposed to the ones I let die horribly/chuck away when they've gone barmy? Or if they have a really cool name or combination of quirks that gets me attached to them more than usual. Reynauld's still hanging in there! And Talbot, my level 6 A-team leper, has been through a lot, I keep him as happy as you can keep someone with leprosy 
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Jun 8, 2015 03:27
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RightClickSaveAs posted:How much sunk cost do you have in them? That's usually what decides it for me, if they're past level 1 and have some upgrades I'm much less likely to get rid of them voluntarily. My Reynauld and Dismas has never let me down, despite their shortcomings.
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Jun 8, 2015 03:28
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Dismas got taken out by a Bone Courtier, of all things.  How quickly the tide can turn, indeed.
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Does the week count actually do anything? Or is it just there for cosmetic reasons?
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I assume it is mainly due to experience, but holy cow is this second run through the game so much faster than the first. Knowing what comps mesh well, what classes and moves work best in each dungeon, and what item bonuses and penalties are worth using are making a huge difference. ALSO,  BIG NEWS: I think I found a setup that makes the PD useful. I have two Ancestral items for her that give +30% Stun/Blight chance, so I put both of her Blight moves and her two-slot stun on, and paired her with a Hellion with the generic +20% stun stone. Those two can completely lock down any team that isn't maggots or special 200+% resistance enemies, so your other two dudes can just gently caress poo poo up. It actually makes the Man-at-arms LESS useful, because his Retribution doesn't work when no one can attack. 
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Jun 8, 2015 03:55
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HogX posted:Does the week count actually do anything? Or is it just there for cosmetic reasons? You can't lose Darkest Dungeon, so if nothing else it allows people to compete and see how fast they can win the game.
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Jun 8, 2015 03:56
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You cannot lose. However, you can rage-quit after your entire party is killed by the hag. So much money and time invested in these scrubs, and they want to get wiped???? Good, screw em anyways. Hag isn't even that difficult, dammit.
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I cleared all of the new bosses but lost my PD to the level 5 bandit cannon. I only brought her along to get her to level 6. I got greedy and snuffed the torch but then my Leper failed me and missed the deathblow on the cannon. Not going to level up another PD until the next content update. She consistently drags her feet.
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Jun 8, 2015 04:52
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Jackard posted:I need this game on my phone I look at my unused tablet on my desk at work and long for the same.
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MacheteZombie posted:I look at my unused tablet on my desk at work and long for the same. Why don't you just Remote Desktop or something and essentially turn your tablet into the interface for your PC?
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LeJackal posted:Why don't you just Remote Desktop or something and essentially turn your tablet into the interface for your PC? I did that for some other game a long time ago and hated the latency. Not sure if that stuff's improved since I tried though.
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Okay just got the game and I think the Leper is going to be the one I like best. Is "Fated" a good one for Lepers to have, because that seems like a hell of a skill.
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Jun 9, 2015 23:44
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MacheteZombie posted:I did that for some other game a long time ago and hated the latency. Not sure if that stuff's improved since I tried though. For something turn-based it shouldn't be that big a deal, right?
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Josef bugman posted:Okay just got the game and I think the Leper is going to be the one I like best. Is "Fated" a good one for Lepers to have, because that seems like a hell of a skill. But yeah Lepers are so awesome thematically and in combat, they get some of the best lines and camping abilities. The Man-At-Arms as he stands now is more useful, but I'm never replacing Talbot my A-team leper. Unless he dies anyway.
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Having an Occultist/Arbalest/BH/BH team is almost cheating. Occultist points at a dude and everyone else kills them. I assume a third BH would be optimal, but that's boring. I tend to keep a dozen people leveled and throw four together to see how they mesh, except I make special teams for each boss. Swine King ain't poo poo vs 190% stun from my Crusader every turn! :iamafag: I wish I could remove positive quirks. Getting ranged crit on a Leper is a waste, especially because once they have seven good or bad quirks any new ones seemingly remove another. I don't know if it's random but still, wasting a slot at all is sad. Locke Dunnegan fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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I'm trying to get through the thread however in the meantime I have a question since I just started playing this a day or so ago.. Which classes have movement skills which allow them to move forward or backward a space or two, while attacking or using another ability? I kind of want to get a group of nothing but guys flipping back and forth but so far have only figured out the grave robber and starting warriors working together.
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coyo7e posted:I'm trying to get through the thread however in the meantime I have a question since I just started playing this a day or so ago.. Which classes have movement skills which allow them to move forward or backward a space or two, while attacking or using another ability? I kind of want to get a group of nothing but guys flipping back and forth but so far have only figured out the grave robber and starting warriors working together. Reynauld, Jester, Gravedigger, Man-at-arms, and Dismas.
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Grave Robber, Jester, Highwayman, and Crusader. I don't think anyone else has movement+attack abilities but I might be forgetting someone. e: oh, MAA. Still haven't got one of those Highwayman is rad though since he can both lunge in and use Point Blank Shot to jump back while hitting hard as hell.
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Angry Diplomat posted:Grave Robber, Jester, Highwayman, and Crusader. I don't think anyone else has movement+attack abilities but I might be forgetting someone. My first save file after the update didn't get a MaA until around 20 weeks, and had no Arbalest for 43 weeks. It was bizarre. My second save file had them in the first ten or so weeks. 
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When I got my first Arbalest, I realized that I had basically neglected trinkets the entire time I played the game. So I go in and just immediately slap a pair of Legendary Bracers on her. She was regularly critting for 50 from the get-go, and barely ever misses, it's great.
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I 2-shot the level 3 Hag with +140% damage critical Pistol Shots. I also blew up the Level 3 Cannon with Occultist Mark -> Sniper Shot -> Collect Bounty x2 on the first turn due to getting triple crits, which was amusing. Given how my second save file got poo poo for trinket drops and most of my dudes spent their free time missing, getting crit on, and going insane, I swear that first save file won some sort of RNG lottery upon creation.
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Angry Diplomat posted:Grave Robber, Jester, Highwayman, and Crusader. I don't think anyone else has movement+attack abilities but I might be forgetting someone. Grave Robber's Lunge + Shadow Fade is a pretty good setup to work with, as well as one of the reasons I feel dark runs kinda got nerfed.
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Angry Diplomat posted:Grave Robber, Jester, Highwayman, and Crusader. I don't think anyone else has movement+attack abilities but I might be forgetting someone. MAA is a great class, way more reliable than Bounty Hunter imho.. Especially since most of my characters who can Mark are SPD 0.. 
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Got a new Crusader named "Mariage". His resolve is tested quite often.. And fails. 
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Is there any chart for trap disarming odds and which classes to it best? I assume Highwayman and Grave robber have the best bonuses, but my Jester and even my Plague Doc seem to pull it off far more often than not. Also, does that Lovecraftian boss that appears when you sacrifice a torch to his altar give any other trinkets than his tentacle? I only killed him once, and while the item is not too bad, it's not quite worth the stress of a tough battle at 0-torch for another.
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Sephyr posted:Is there any chart for trap disarming odds and which classes to it best? I assume Highwayman and Grave robber have the best bonuses, but my Jester and even my Plague Doc seem to pull it off far more often than not. It's in their status screen. It's the last entry in Resistances. Higher ranks give every class a bonus to it, so later on you can disarm most of them using anyone. My grave robber has 90%.
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Sephyr posted:Is there any chart for trap disarming odds and which classes to it best? I assume Highwayman and Grave robber have the best bonuses, but my Jester and even my Plague Doc seem to pull it off far more often than not. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jun 14, 2015 |
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Okay, can someone just give me an entire team/trinket/move setup that makes the Jester useful? I'm nearing the end of my best run yet and I felt a lot better after just giving up on them. They just seem so bad in every respect compared to most any other class in every slot that I don't get how anyone can use them outside of gimmick or completionist runs. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills 
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Okay, can someone explain to me how the hell I change my controls? Also who the gently caress releases a game without that feature?
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Am I just the unluckiest person ever? I fought a ton of Shamblers, both at random and at altars, and I got like 5 ancestral trinkets at first, but I haven't found a single one since. What gives?
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Locke Dunnegan posted:Okay, can someone just give me an entire team/trinket/move setup that makes the Jester useful? I'm nearing the end of my best run yet and I felt a lot better after just giving up on them. They just seem so bad in every respect compared to most any other class in every slot that I don't get how anyone can use them outside of gimmick or completionist runs. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills I never had any luck with the "stick em in the back to play songs" style of Jestering and always favored using them as frontliners with high evade, a good bleed attack and a mix of other attack moves. Pretty similar to how I wind up using grave robbers, really. At present I'd consider them underpowered vs. the BH/MAA/Arb mark shenanigans, but doesn't everyone kind of expect a nerf on that here soon? I mean ITT dudes are talking about first round KOs on bosses using that kinda setup.
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chairface posted:I never had any luck with the "stick em in the back to play songs" style of Jestering and always favored using them as frontliners with high evade, a good bleed attack and a mix of other attack moves. Pretty similar to how I wind up using grave robbers, really. At present I'd consider them underpowered vs. the BH/MAA/Arb mark shenanigans, but doesn't everyone kind of expect a nerf on that here soon? I mean ITT dudes are talking about first round KOs on bosses using that kinda setup.
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My grimdark village does not accept jesters or their lighthearted buffoonery.
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