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Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.






:chord:

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
:synpa: :smugmrgw:

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

watch out, pram will argue that this apple product is fine and that they're using it wrong, despite it have a 1-star average review on apple.com

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
my personal experience is worth more than 2000 others combined

Izumi Konata
May 4, 2012

by Ralp
A class action lawsuit was filed Thursday against over two dozen California winemakers, accusing them of producing wine with high levels of arsenic, reports CBS News.

The wines, which include the Trader Joe's Charles Shaw White Zinfandel known as "Two Buck Chuck," Menage a Trois Moscato and Franzia White Grenache, had arsenic levels more than three, four and fives times the Environmental Protection Agency's limit for drinking water, respectively.

The research that makes up the bulk of the lawsuit was conducted by Kevin Hicks, a former wine distributor who created the company BeverageGrades to test wine. He analyzed more than 1,300 bottles of wine and found that about one-quarter of them had higher levels of arsenic that exceeded the EPA's standards for drinking water, which is 10 parts per billion (ppb).

Attorneys who filed the suit said Hicks tried going straight to the winemakers with the information, but was turned away. The lawsuit, which is based on Hicks' work but is filed on behalf of consumers against the winemakers, is the only way to get their attention, a lawyer told CBS News.

The Wine Institute, a business association that represents 1,000 wineries, said in a statement that arsenic is a naturally occurring element in air, soil, water, and food, and that the allegations in the lawsuit were misleading.

"As an agricultural product, wines from throughout the world contain trace amounts of arsenic as do juices, vegetables, grains and other alcohol beverages," the statement said. "There is no research that shows that the amounts found in wine pose a health risk to consumers."

There’s a fair amount of evidence that a glass of wine can help promote heart health in some people. But if the allegations of this lawsuit prove true, it should be a warning to regular wine drinkers that frequent quaffs of an arsenic-heavy wine may hurt over the long term, says Prof. Bruce Stanton, director of the Darmouth Center for the Environmental Health Sciences.

Stanton wasn’t involved in the lawsuit or Hicks’ report, but in reaction to the news, he told The Huffington Post that it “would be prudent” to avoid any wines that have reported arsenic levels above 10 ppb because there are trace amounts of arsenic in many different kinds of foods.

"We do know that arsenic in food does have adverse health effects,” Stanton wrote in an email. "In an abundance of caution it seems prudent to me to keep arsenic exposure as low as possible from all sources, including water, wine, apple and orange juice and rice."

Adverse health effects can include skin damage and various cancers of the skin, liver, bladder and lung. Still, Stanton acknowledged that while too much arsenic in water has been shown to damage health, there aren’t very many studies demonstrating the effects of arsenic in wine. Plus, of course, health authorities don’t encourage people to drink eight to ten cups of wine every day the way they do water.

"A number of studies have shown that arsenic in water, even at levels as low as 5 ppb ... have adverse effects on children in the U.S. (reduced IQ, for example),” he explained. "To my knowledge no one has studied the effect of arsenic in wine on humans, so we don’t know if the same amount of arsenic in wine would have the same effect as arsenic in water."

A Trader Joe's spokeswoman told HuffPost that while the company can't comment on pending litigation, they are conducting their own investigation with several of their wine suppliers. They also pointed to varying global standards of arsenic in wine -- 100 ppb in Canada, and 200 ppb set by the Paris-based International Organization of Vine and Wine -- and said that their wines are within those standards.

"We will not offer any product we feel is unsafe. Ever," wrote spokeswoman Rachel Broderick. "We have no reason to believe the wines we offer are unsafe, including Charles Shaw White Zinfandel."

Franzia directed HuffPost to the Wine Institute's statement, which also called into question Hicks' comparison of water to wine and pointed out that California's wines meet global standards for the amount of arsenic allowed in wine.

"While there are no established limits in the U.S., several countries, including the European Union, have established limits of 100 parts per billion or higher for wine," it reads. "California wine exports are tested by these governments and are below the established limits."

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Izumi Konata posted:

A class action lawsuit was filed Thursday against over two dozen California winemakers, accusing them of producing wine with high levels of arsenic, reports CBS News.

The wines, which include the Trader Joe's Charles Shaw White Zinfandel known as "Two Buck Chuck," Menage a Trois Moscato and Franzia White Grenache, had arsenic levels more than three, four and fives times the Environmental Protection Agency's limit for drinking water, respectively.

The research that makes up the bulk of the lawsuit was conducted by Kevin Hicks, a former wine distributor who created the company BeverageGrades to test wine. He analyzed more than 1,300 bottles of wine and found that about one-quarter of them had higher levels of arsenic that exceeded the EPA's standards for drinking water, which is 10 parts per billion (ppb).

Attorneys who filed the suit said Hicks tried going straight to the winemakers with the information, but was turned away. The lawsuit, which is based on Hicks' work but is filed on behalf of consumers against the winemakers, is the only way to get their attention, a lawyer told CBS News.

The Wine Institute, a business association that represents 1,000 wineries, said in a statement that arsenic is a naturally occurring element in air, soil, water, and food, and that the allegations in the lawsuit were misleading.

"As an agricultural product, wines from throughout the world contain trace amounts of arsenic as do juices, vegetables, grains and other alcohol beverages," the statement said. "There is no research that shows that the amounts found in wine pose a health risk to consumers."

There’s a fair amount of evidence that a glass of wine can help promote heart health in some people. But if the allegations of this lawsuit prove true, it should be a warning to regular wine drinkers that frequent quaffs of an arsenic-heavy wine may hurt over the long term, says Prof. Bruce Stanton, director of the Darmouth Center for the Environmental Health Sciences.

Stanton wasn’t involved in the lawsuit or Hicks’ report, but in reaction to the news, he told The Huffington Post that it “would be prudent” to avoid any wines that have reported arsenic levels above 10 ppb because there are trace amounts of arsenic in many different kinds of foods.

"We do know that arsenic in food does have adverse health effects,” Stanton wrote in an email. "In an abundance of caution it seems prudent to me to keep arsenic exposure as low as possible from all sources, including water, wine, apple and orange juice and rice."

Adverse health effects can include skin damage and various cancers of the skin, liver, bladder and lung. Still, Stanton acknowledged that while too much arsenic in water has been shown to damage health, there aren’t very many studies demonstrating the effects of arsenic in wine. Plus, of course, health authorities don’t encourage people to drink eight to ten cups of wine every day the way they do water.

"A number of studies have shown that arsenic in water, even at levels as low as 5 ppb ... have adverse effects on children in the U.S. (reduced IQ, for example),” he explained. "To my knowledge no one has studied the effect of arsenic in wine on humans, so we don’t know if the same amount of arsenic in wine would have the same effect as arsenic in water."

A Trader Joe's spokeswoman told HuffPost that while the company can't comment on pending litigation, they are conducting their own investigation with several of their wine suppliers. They also pointed to varying global standards of arsenic in wine -- 100 ppb in Canada, and 200 ppb set by the Paris-based International Organization of Vine and Wine -- and said that their wines are within those standards.

"We will not offer any product we feel is unsafe. Ever," wrote spokeswoman Rachel Broderick. "We have no reason to believe the wines we offer are unsafe, including Charles Shaw White Zinfandel."

Franzia directed HuffPost to the Wine Institute's statement, which also called into question Hicks' comparison of water to wine and pointed out that California's wines meet global standards for the amount of arsenic allowed in wine.

"While there are no established limits in the U.S., several countries, including the European Union, have established limits of 100 parts per billion or higher for wine," it reads. "California wine exports are tested by these governments and are below the established limits."

who are you are you a farmer?

moonshine is......
Feb 21, 2007



makes u think

pram
Jun 10, 2001

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

watch out, pram will argue that this apple product is fine and that they're using it wrong, despite it have a 1-star average review on apple.com

watch out. waTcH Out. a duurrrrrppp durr durr poopoo

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

pram posted:

a duurrrrrppp durr durr poopoo

:pram:

pram
Jun 10, 2001

the transparent monitor was sick as gently caress

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

pram posted:

poopoo

Thank for keeping in the spirit of this thread

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




YEAH ITS A GOOD ONE

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
"good high quality apple products" is saying the same thing 3 times, op

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



op wasn't blank; voted 1

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


just browse here, OP: http://www.apple.com/store/

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

Cat Face Joe posted:

op wasn't blank; voted 1

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

DaNzA
Sep 11, 2001

:D
Grimey Drawer
my working hypothesis is that this only happens with people with oily/dirty hands, where the oil from the hand get onto the cable and softens the rubber material and eventually degrades and breaks the cable

you can see how the cable has become discoloured/yellowish in the very pic that you've posted

pram
Jun 10, 2001
a farmers filthy hands

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
people with hands - a real edge case

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012


Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

echinopsis posted:

people with hands - a real edge case

this sounds like a case for Microsoft Edge

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




DaNzA posted:

my working hypothesis is that this only happens with people with oily/dirty hands, where the oil from the hand get onto the cable and softens the rubber material and eventually degrades and breaks the cable

you can see how the cable has become discoloured/yellowish in the very pic that you've posted

don't dismiss my use of filters motherfarter

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
oil filters

DaNzA
Sep 11, 2001

:D
Grimey Drawer

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

don't dismiss my use of filters motherfarter

if you actually applied filter to the photo then the plug itself should also be yellow, but the plug is in a much lighter shade compare to the yellowish cable so it's just your grubby hands

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




yet it still degrades!

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
use cables with hands shouldnt be consdiered weird or hosed up

Zlodo
Nov 25, 2006
apple products are meant to be admired from a respectful distance, not manipulated by the impure hands of the common people

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




so what I take from this is that apple products are for rural folk

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
aka farmbers

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

so what I take from this is that apple products are for rural folk

'rural folk' is slang for kiwi farmer with a dryer that faces outside

Peanut and the Gang
Aug 24, 2009

by exmarx

The blueshirt player is l@@king at the cable and saying "Wth man, wth happen to that cable".

Athletic Footjob
Sep 24, 2005
Grimey Drawer
lmao if your butler isnt caressing ur ballsack as he plugs in your lightning cable with his cotton gloves into the latest idevice

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Zlodo posted:

apple products are meant to be admired from a respectful distance, not manipulated by the impure hands of the common people

iphoneunboxingteaceremony.txt

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

maniacdevnull posted:

iphoneunboxingteaceremony.txt

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes




these things yellowed up like hell so this yellow cable theory is valid

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002



this and the Iici fuking owned

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Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
Everything on this page, OP: https://www.apple.com/pr/products/

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