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Internet Kraken posted:What is the optimal strategy for that subway map? I lost another impossible campaign because I drew it as one of the first missions and have no clue how to tackle it. Most of the cover is garbage. There's barely any high cover outside of the subway car but the subway car is a huge trap since its exposed to both sides which lets sectoids easily flank you. There's no cover to safely move up to for flanking either. Its just a long corridor of death and despair that kicks my rear end every time. Go to the other platform, overwatch for 20 turns in a row and play a better game while you wait.
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That bomb disposal train mission. gently caress, nope.
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Jun 12, 2015 22:32
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I finally beat this game after buying it on release day! And now I find out theres a second one coming out to throw more (admittedly fun) RNG bullshit at me. I probably would have beaten it long ago, but I always get attached to my lone  soldier who always dies when when of my other soldiers panics. Like, without fail, death by teammate was 100% of my angry resets. Missing 2 99% shots caused me less grief and anger.Next game letting me pick all that stuff instead of cycling through 400 recruits for a specific country/class combo already makes me want to buy it.
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Jun 12, 2015 22:39
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Internet Kraken posted:What is the optimal strategy for that subway map? I lost another impossible campaign because I drew it as one of the first missions and have no clue how to tackle it. Most of the cover is garbage. There's barely any high cover outside of the subway car but the subway car is a huge trap since its exposed to both sides which lets sectoids easily flank you. There's no cover to safely move up to for flanking either. Its just a long corridor of death and despair that kicks my rear end every time. Decide who is most expendable, send them to the corner of the subway car to peek down the tracks. If it looks like you can, send a squadsight* sniper across the tracks with someone to watch his back. Then just reveal aliens and watch your sniper rack up exp. * if you don't have a squadsight sniper, just nope the gently caress out of there on your first turn. gently caress this subway station, the aliens can loving have it.
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Jun 12, 2015 23:06
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Ok going into this game on impossible after 2+ years away probably wasn't the best plan. Back to classic it is before I become too pissed off to go any further.
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Jun 12, 2015 23:18
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I kinda wish they'd made whatever xcom game they wanted to make with hybrid aliens in the sewers after terror from the deep so I can see how bad a post-tftd pre-apocalypse game with a large amount of sewer-themed underground-themed maps would be Plus I guess it'd give them a way to do some silly hollow earth mole men lizard people alien poo poo or something. But mostly I'm morbidly curious about how an xcom sewer level would look lmao
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Jun 12, 2015 23:22
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FirstAidKite posted:I kinda wish they'd made whatever xcom game they wanted to make with hybrid aliens in the sewers after terror from the deep so I can see how bad a post-tftd pre-apocalypse game with a large amount of sewer-themed underground-themed maps would be Someone actually wants to play a sewer level, holy poo poo
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Jun 12, 2015 23:27
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It looks like the new Sectoids are going to be about as dangerous as XCOM:EW Sectoid Commanders were, maybe worse. Higher health, the ability to mind-control your dudes, and even the ability to raise the dead to fight for them. We are far from the days when they were just skinny little nothings that could be blown away with one grenade.
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Jun 12, 2015 23:28
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Musluk posted:Someone actually wants to play a sewer level, holy poo poo What do you think morbidly curious means, musluk
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So what's everyone's least favorite level?
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Jun 12, 2015 23:30
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After the hell of the shipping route terror missions I can only imagine how bad a claustrophobic sewer, catacomb, or underground tunnel network terror mission would be lmao
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FirstAidKite posted:What do you think morbidly curious means, musluk dunno, still can't grasp why would anyone want to see another sewer level in TYOOL 2015.5 where's my mars levels firaxis
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Speedball posted:It looks like the new Sectoids are going to be about as dangerous as XCOM:EW Sectoid Commanders were, maybe worse. Higher health, the ability to mind-control your dudes, and even the ability to raise the dead to fight for them. Well yeah, look at him(?). Pectoid has been spending the last 20 years discovering steroids.
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Elderbean posted:So what's everyone's least favorite level? Overseer UFO had my MEC gun down 3 of my other soldiers after he was mind controlled because I was deadset on stunning the Ethereal and he resisted a 90% stun twice in a row earlier so I feel salty from that. 
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Elderbean posted:So what's everyone's least favorite level? Train/metro station, no doubt. No real cover and it's always thin mint bullshit town. Musluk fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Jun 12, 2015 23:34
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Elderbean posted:So what's everyone's least favorite level? Council missions easily because endless loving thin men. The bomb disposal ones are the worst, requiring you to move fast and somehow not get your squad destroyed at the same time. If you get one of those early on impossible you flat out cannot do it without absurd luck. On classic it would be very difficult, but on impossible the increased number of aliens with higher health means you're just straight up hosed.
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Mzbundifund posted:Those both sound like kind of mid-level aliens, do we know who the early-game foes are going to be? Brainwashed human troops maybe? amuayse posted:Oh. I just saw screenshots of XCOM soldiers with Cyberdisc and Chryssalid perks that's why.
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Vipers seem ridiculously brutal for an early game enemy. Cover is like the one thing rookie troops can use to survive and they just loving negate that. I mean, imagine if there was some early enemy in EW that didn't care about heavy co- wait nevermind.
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Jun 12, 2015 23:46
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Internet Kraken posted:Vipers seem ridiculously brutal for an early game enemy. Cover is like the one thing rookie troops can use to survive and they just loving negate that. I mean, imagine if there was some early enemy in EW that didn't care about heavy co- wait nevermind. haha snektits bullshit might even surpass thin mint bullshit in the end
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Considering that Xcom 2 is all about stealth, I imagine you can pick how you engage and where most times. So I'm assuming the ideal strategy for dealing with them would be to scout the area and then focus the Vipers down turn one.
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Okay, did the latest version of Long War change how creating MEC's work? Because I've researched Alien Biocybernetics and just unlocked the first MEC, but I still don't have the option to build a cybernetics lab. Is there something else I need to be doing?
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Internet Kraken posted:Vipers seem ridiculously brutal for an early game enemy. Cover is like the one thing rookie troops can use to survive and they just loving negate that. I mean, imagine if there was some early enemy in EW that didn't care about heavy co- wait nevermind. Won't they presumably need to be within "ridiculously close could probably flank and oneshot rookies if they felt like it" range to do it anyway?
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Jun 12, 2015 23:51
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You'll probably be able to exploit snakes' weakness to ninja katanas.
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Lotish posted:I know, but I want to skew the results. I like Assaults. There's this http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/474/ which does a lot of the stuff toolboks used to. In particular you might find the Soldier Class Probability and Display Mobility tweaks helpful
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Elderbean posted:So what's everyone's least favorite level? Hurricane Street, especially the terror map version. Little cover, less room to maneuver if things go wrong, and densely packed mobs to make something going wrong likely.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:Okay, did the latest version of Long War change how creating MEC's work? Because I've researched Alien Biocybernetics and just unlocked the first MEC, but I still don't have the option to build a cybernetics lab. Is there something else I need to be doing? The repair lab is required (I think). Either way, you now construct mecs in Engineering, in the armor tab.
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Elderbean posted:So what's everyone's least favorite level? One of the variants of the alien base that has very little and unfavorable cover.
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SexyCommando posted:I hope making custom namelists is more robust, either out-of-the-box or through a mod. It would help cut down on in-game troop editing time to not only record specific names, but also tie gender, race, appearance/etc. to them. So if you get new rookies and the game rolls your friend Sarah, she will always be a black woman with a ponytail, but if it rolls John Madden, he will always appear as a heavy-set white guy with white hair and Custom_Voice_2. This is already possible in Long War with a third party mod.
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My least favorite is the Transport Ship. There's only one version of it and it sucks and in LW you'll end up playing it about 60 times per campaign.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:Okay, did the latest version of Long War change how creating MEC's work? Because I've researched Alien Biocybernetics and just unlocked the first MEC, but I still don't have the option to build a cybernetics lab. Is there something else I need to be doing? Missed this, but the Cybernetic lab is now the repair lab.
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This has probably been posted already but it's gold. https://vimeo.com/129923235
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Elderbean posted:So what's everyone's least favorite level? Least favorite is probably Trainyard or Boulevard. They're too open and have very little concealment anywhere.
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Elderbean posted:This has probably been posted already but it's gold. Oh my god yes
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Elderbean posted:This has probably been posted already but it's gold. haha, I just watched Kingsman the other day so that is great.
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Kitfox88 posted:Overseer UFO had my MEC gun down 3 of my other soldiers after he was mind controlled because I was deadset on stunning the Ethereal and he resisted a 90% stun twice in a row earlier so I feel salty from that. I do pretty much the same thing every time. Never gonna learn.
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You know what kind of level I'd like to see in an xcom title? Some kind of historical landmark fight. I wanna see GI Joe fight it out with aliens on top of crumbling/restored(Soon to be unrestored) castle battlements.
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FoolyCharged posted:You know what kind of level I'd like to see in an xcom title? Some kind of historical landmark fight. I wanna see GI Joe fight it out with aliens on top of crumbling/restored(Soon to be unrestored) castle battlements. Fight for the Space Needle!
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Internet Kraken posted:What is the optimal strategy for that subway map? I lost another impossible campaign because I drew it as one of the first missions and have no clue how to tackle it. Most of the cover is garbage. There's barely any high cover outside of the subway car but the subway car is a huge trap since its exposed to both sides which lets sectoids easily flank you. There's no cover to safely move up to for flanking either. Its just a long corridor of death and despair that kicks my rear end every time. Send your MECs down the middle, have a squad sight sniper in the back, rest of your team supports the MECs. MECs are awesome. I hope you're not doing this on vanilla.
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