Sorites posted:

Is there any roguelike where the BUC system ties to the alignment system? Say, a lawful character sees:

* Blessed gloves
* Blessed hat
* Cursed fireproof greased partially-eaten chickatrice corpse

But if she converts to chaotic, now the gloves and hat are cursed and the rubber chicken is blessed?

It would stand to reason that a blessing by the enemy deity is a curse in your hands. But it'd be a painful system to balance and implement, for sure.

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ERICH {ER}
God of Chivalry, Honor and Social Hierarchy
Domination, Guardian, Law, Nobility, Protection, War. The Light Lance. Adamant Items.
Erich is a deceptively honest diety, for though he stands proudly amidst the ranks of the Pantheon of Light, he is at his core as evil as any horror spawned by the Sorcery Wars. Erich's most commonly preached teachings include moral rigor and honesty in war -- he is the patron of knights, and demands support of one's nation unto death, absolute obedience to one's liege, the defense of the innocent from creatures of darkness and the exposure of any and all hidden sins to the Light of Day. Yet, his theology also demands unquestioning obedience to authority, the willingness to commit the blackest acts in service to a higher power and the advancement of nobility, militarism and commerce at the expense of the common man -- essentially, Erich is the god of fascism.
All men are not born equal in Erich's eyes -- one's social station is determined at birth, and attempting to question that order is among the greatest crime one can commit. Peasants exist to perform manual labour and die on the fields of war, and any attempt to transcend that station must be punished with a painful death. For a priest of Erich to even speak to a commoner, let alone support them, is viewed by the church as a sin. Erich's theology calls the Good-Evil alignment axis the 'peasant morals', and is based almost entirely upon the Law-Chaos axis. A disturbing number of paladins revere Erich, at least until their theology comes into conflict with their alignment requirement and they must choose between Erich and Good.
Erich's holy symbol is a stylized iron scepter. He is Lawful Evil, though neither he nor his priests fully comprehend this fact. His clerics may be of any Lawful alignment -- many are Good, emphasizing the honesty, chivalry and nobility aspects of his portfolio. His weapon of choice is the light lance, and his Domains are Domination, Guardian, Law, Nobility, Protection and War. He appreuciates the offerings of the bodies of ignoble enemies (chaotic thinking beings or unnatural beasts) slain in fair combat. Followers of Erich can always claim the right of hospitality, sleeping in a castle or lordly manor, resting the night without cost. Erich is a demanding and inflexible god, but has been known to reward his most honorable followers lavishly, even lending out powerful magical weapons and armor.
Worship: Erich accepts the sacrifice of dragons, beasts, chaotic demihumans and evil outsiders (which must be live-sacrified, since they do not leave corpses). He is gravely offended by the sacrifice of goblinoids, since he considers them to be vermin; their extermination is a chore, not an accomplishment worthy of chivalrous accord. Cowing enemies earns favor with him, however; he considers it part of the enforcement of the Natural Order of the world.
He places a very strict code of conduct upon his followers: they must not be craven (by being afraid, or by skulking in the shadows), nor may they use poison, utilize base trickery such as distractions or fast-talking or surrender -- especially not to base creatures. They may not enlist the aid of non-demihumans, especially not goblinoids, chaotics or evil outsiders, nor may they attempt to resolve their differences peacefully with such creatures. Finally, unlawful acts in general offend Erich, and his followers must always follow the code of chivalry, even when unmounted and unarmored.
Goblinoids are not considered people in Erich's theology, and thus certain strictures are lifted when fighting them: they may be attacked while fleeing, poisoned or defeated with base trickery. In Erich's cosmology, the ideals of chivalry and law apply only to humans, demihumans and similarly refined creatures. Note that Erich's worldview does not influence a worshipper's objective alignment, only their standing with Erich.
Blessings: Erich will heal, ease hunger or smite enemies for any follower. More loyal servants find that he will (in order of increasing favor) purify the body, remove fatigue, identify weapons, armor and shields, lift curses, replace lost Spellbooks, replenish mana and even raise the dead.
Erich's more permanent blessings include courage and protection from treacherous attacks, skill at horsemanship, landkeeping and cowing the peasantry, the ability to conjure a phantom steed and a fearsome warcry.

anilEhilated posted:

Gentle? How about Dredmor, that eases you in...

Roonerspism posted:

Let's Play Doom: The Roguelike

Ultra-Violence difficulty, Angel of Impatience attempts
Episode AoI 2: No Time for Arachnophobia

Espilae posted:

A Carebear Plays A Roguelike Suggestion Box

Okay folks, here's the deal. I love this thread, I really do, and I love the *idea* of roguelikes - procedurally generated slaughterhouses that are equally punishing and entertaining. I get how that might be thrilling for some people.. but it ain't my cup of tea, not normally. I enjoy watching other people die horribly from their stupid mistakes - but I'm a total carebear. I'm the kind of schmuck that always plays on easiest difficulty even in notoriously easy games. I'm the kind of dickhead who has even resorted to cheating a few times to experience the story at the expense of gameplay. I'm the kind of arsehole who looks at ASCII graphics and can barely keep it together while his brain melts into a puddle of hashes and ampersands.

I'm exactly the kind of person who should not be playing roguelikes.

So, with that in mind, I'm going to play one completely blind. There will be carnage, there will be screaming and frustration, there will probably be threats of mortal injury leveled at not just the people who designed said game but everyone who gave them their cup of coffee in the morning or cuts their grass. It's hopefully going to be entertaining, though even if it isn't particularly entertaining for ME.
Please suggest to me some roguelikes for me to die horribly in, I'll pick one, play it until I really can't take it anymore (there is absolutely zero likelihood of me actually winning), and I'll pick another one. Maybe I'll put it in a different thread to stop me from making GBS threads all over this one if you guys prefer.

Be gentle.

Kobold Sex Tape posted:

play nethack without spoilers. i want to see how far someone can get without any.

bathroomrage posted:

Crypt of the NecroDancer is weighted heavily towards the skill end of the spectrum, there's very little of the usual roguelike randomness that could end your life very quickly.

Honestly though, my suggestion would be Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup.

Kobold Sex Tape posted:

play nethack without spoilers. i want to see how far someone can get without any.

Espilae posted:

A Carebear Plays A Roguelike Suggestion Box

ZeeToo posted:

A couple of different suggestions: Sproggiwood (get it on Steam), and Smart Kobold. Sproggiwood is practically intended as baby's first roguelike. It's comparatively user-friendly and simple to understand the logic of compared to many of the involved games we see shown off here. On anything but the easiest difficulty, it's also going to suddenly start kicking your rear end when you aren't expecting it, though. The new Savage mode is probably too much for someone new to the genre, so try the middle one

Smart Kobold is a much shorter game and... honestly, I would adore seeing someone try to play this without knowing the intended strategy ahead of time. Go into a fairly small dungeon with only a handful of tools, try to depopulate the kobolds before they get to you. The AI is the real enemy, as you might guess; it's a lot more tuned to hurt you than many roguelike foes.

The advantage of both of these is that they'll give you a chance to find your footing and advance a bit, so it's not completely frustrating, and then they'll sucker punch you right when you think you've got the idea.

Lilli posted:

I was so proud when I figured out how to play smart kobold.

Kobold Sex Tape posted:

play nethack without spoilers. i want to see how far someone can get without any.

Espilae posted:

A Carebear Plays A Roguelike Suggestion Box

Okay folks, here's the deal. I love this thread, I really do, and I love the *idea* of roguelikes - procedurally generated slaughterhouses that are equally punishing and entertaining. I get how that might be thrilling for some people.. but it ain't my cup of tea, not normally. I enjoy watching other people die horribly from their stupid mistakes - but I'm a total carebear. I'm the kind of schmuck that always plays on easiest difficulty even in notoriously easy games. I'm the kind of dickhead who has even resorted to cheating a few times to experience the story at the expense of gameplay. I'm the kind of arsehole who looks at ASCII graphics and can barely keep it together while his brain melts into a puddle of hashes and ampersands.

I'm exactly the kind of person who should not be playing roguelikes.

So, with that in mind, I'm going to play one completely blind. There will be carnage, there will be screaming and frustration, there will probably be threats of mortal injury leveled at not just the people who designed said game but everyone who gave them their cup of coffee in the morning or cuts their grass. It's hopefully going to be entertaining, though even if it isn't particularly entertaining for ME.
Please suggest to me some roguelikes for me to die horribly in, I'll pick one, play it until I really can't take it anymore (there is absolutely zero likelihood of me actually winning), and I'll pick another one. Maybe I'll put it in a different thread to stop me from making GBS threads all over this one if you guys prefer.

Be gentle.

Kobold Sex Tape posted:

play nethack without spoilers. i want to see how far someone can get without any.

Kobold Sex Tape posted:

play nethack without spoilers. i want to see how far someone can get without any.

Dreggon posted:

isnt that game really hard

Geokinesis posted:

Dungeonmans!

Dreggon posted:

isnt that game really hard

ousire posted:

I grabbed Crypt of the Necrodancer last night. It's fun, but I'm not sure it's the game for me. After playing just a little bit, it makes my arm start to hurt like hell from all the repeated tapping of the keypad. And I'm not sure if it's the game, me, or my keyboard, but sometimes I have a hell of a time making it recognize the two button combinations to use items/spells

Dreggon posted:

isnt that game really hard

bathroomrage posted:

Plug in a controller with four face buttons, I played it once with the keyboard and never again because fuuuuuck that noise.

Hyper Crab Tank posted: