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The Larch posted:So who do we vote for then? You keep writing in "full communism" until it gains sentience.
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i really hope as the primaries / election approaches we have a dedicated thread for goofy candidate photos
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mooyashi posted:i really hope as the primaries / election approaches we have a dedicated thread for goofy candidate photos You're in it.
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Jun 13, 2015 22:28
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platzapS posted:BERNIE 2016 Gonna feel the bern in 2016. 
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mooyashi posted:i really hope as the primaries / election approaches we have a dedicated thread for goofy candidate photos Politoons has the Gay Abortions. Can the primaries thread have something similar for goofy campaign trail pictures?
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Jun 13, 2015 22:47
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Skwirl posted:My issue with it is that it's not Irish enough.
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Jun 13, 2015 23:01
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Finally watched Hillary's speech. Very good, and reminded me, why isn't voter registration an automatic thing that happens. I had to register for Selective Service when I was 17, and on my 18th birthday Gillette sent me a razor, why can't there be a voter registration card wrapped around that?
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Jun 13, 2015 23:09
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Hillary gave Rubio a great opportunity today and he took it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVJShWsNok
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Two things: 1) rhetoric isn't the same thing as action/belief (we have Hillary's record as a politician to analyze the latter, and by any rational estimation she can be at best described as a weak-libertarian: socially liberal and fiscally centrist/conservative, with some trivial differences with libertarians around the edges/depth of allowable government intervention); 2) even if (1) weren't a thing, the fact that Ms. Franke-Ruta views it as being far enough left to have little "left" left means she buys hook-line-and-sinker into the neoliberal nonsense/Rush Limbaugh definition of "liberal". Joementum posted:The South Carolina AFL-CIO has endorsed Bernie for President. That's a pretty big deal.
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Jun 13, 2015 23:15
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Feather posted:
Oh, I get it, you're insane.
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Jun 13, 2015 23:17
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Skwirl posted:Oh, I get it, you're insane. How so?
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Jun 13, 2015 23:25
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Joementum posted:Hillary gave Rubio a great opportunity today and he took it. This is a good ad. Rubio's team was on the ball with this.
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Jun 13, 2015 23:43
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Feather posted:How so? Maybe SEIU is the big union in South Carolina, I have no idea how scoring a union endorsement in a early primary state is a bad thing 
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Maybe SEIU is the big union in South Carolina, I have no idea how scoring a union endorsement in a early primary state is a bad thing
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Jun 13, 2015 23:53
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Mr Hootington posted:This is a good ad. Rubio's team was on the ball with this. Which is fine until you ask him anything on social or fiscal policy and you have to remember both younger and older voters that aren't crazy conservatives tend to have very fond memories of the Clinton years before Bush wrecked everything. Tell me where in a debate against Clinton Rubio is going to find air in between the perceptions of the Clinton years, extremely conservative social policy and substantial superficial differences between his and GWB overall policy?
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Jun 13, 2015 23:58
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Three Olives posted:Which is fine until you ask him anything on social or fiscal policy and you have to remember both younger and older voters that aren't crazy conservatives tend to have very fond memories of the Clinton years before Bush wrecked everything. That's a general election issue, Rubio's got a primary to win and that's a p good republican primary ad.
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Three Olives posted:Which is fine until you ask him anything on social or fiscal policy and you have to remember both younger and older voters that aren't crazy conservatives tend to have very fond memories of the Clinton years before Bush wrecked everything. Beats me. I just liked the ad. Thought it was really good.
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It's not negative for Bernie to score an AFLCIO endorsement, it just doesn't actually matter much. And thinking it does means you're either naive or insane.Feather posted:How so? Apologies, you're probably just naive.
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Joementum posted:Hillary gave Rubio a great opportunity today and he took it. I disagree, Rubio walked right into the trap that was set for him. The Clinton campaign is basically the Clinton years were awesome, Bush was a loving trainwreck, Obama hasn't been complete poo poo, the economy has improved dramatically after the Bush disaster, why would we want the same "new" people and "new" political ideas that have already failed.
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Skwirl posted:It's not negative for Bernie to score an AFLCIO endorsement, it just doesn't actually matter much. And thinking it does means you're either naive or insane. Ah, I get it: you just don't know what you're talking about.
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Is this dressing up like colonials stuff a strictly post-2008 phenomenon?
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Three Olives posted:I disagree, Rubio walked right into the trap that was set for him. The Clinton campaign is basically the Clinton years were awesome, Bush was a loving trainwreck, Obama hasn't been complete poo poo, the economy has improved dramatically after the Bush disaster, why would we want the same "new" people and "new" political ideas that have already failed. Right now it's about persuading Republican party actors who'll be impressed by Rubio's clear contrast with Hillary's message. Marco also has no problem with her reminding people of how bad Bush was.
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Feather posted:Ah, I get it: you just don't know what you're talking about. It isn't a big deal. South Carolina has about 61,000 represented by unions of which 41,000 are actual members. I couldn't find the numbers to find the breakdown between SEIU and AFL-CIO. They didn't have a democrat primary in '12 but we have the presidential election results of 845,756 voting democrat. Meaning union representation is 7.2% and union members are 4.8%. They are not a large part of the democrat electorate. That said it is great he got an early endorsement!
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I imagine Hillary would probably want to boost Rubio as much as possible, force the Republicans to spend money in the primaries rather than just letting Bush cruise to victory like she is with the Democrats. Having the Republicans do her opposition research for her also seems like a good idea
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Ted Cruz and a dude in Thomas Jefferson drag. Badger of Basra posted:Is this dressing up like colonials stuff a strictly post-2008 phenomenon? Usually the people doing this opt for the minute man cosplay. It seems we're moving up into rich, well-educated, gentrified statesman. Watching the Dave Barton cultists bend over backwards trying to turn Jefferson into an evangelical Christian has been the most entertaining of all.
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Jun 14, 2015 00:25
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Joementum posted:Right now it's about persuading Republican party actors who'll be impressed by Rubio's clear contrast with Hillary's message. Marco also has no problem with her reminding people of how bad Bush was. Yes but Hillary is already playing the long game, she is intentionally trying to drag the the Republican primary candidates into fighting her instead of their own shitfest that is going to hurt them in both the general and in the primary to give them space to eat their own by making the primary about Clinton and not their own policy differences. As far as I see it Hillary knew exactly what she was doing and Rubio was the first to take the bait.
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Three Olives posted:Yes but Hillary is already playing the long game, she is intentionally trying to drag the the Republican primary candidates into fighting her instead of their own shitfest that is going to hurt them in both the general and in the primary to give them space to eat their own by making the primary about Clinton and not their own policy differences. Why would making the Republican primary about Hillary help Hillary? I guess it helps reinforce the inevitability argument, but seems to me she benefits most by letting them try to out-rightwing each other while she harvests campaign ad fodder. Maybe throw the provacative bone to keep them fighting and rabid, but engaging the clown car usually ends up with pie on your face.
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Hillary is not going to have to do anything to make the Republicans spend the primary attacking her.
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Mr Hootington posted:It isn't a big deal. South Carolina has about 61,000 represented by unions of which 41,000 are actual members. I couldn't find the numbers to find the breakdown between SEIU and AFL-CIO. Yes, getting an early endorsement from labor is a big deal. It's not campaign-making/breaking but it's also not just "good job!" in significance.
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I didn't get tickets to the Hillary launch but I live on the island so I thought I'd take a walk to the park and see what I could see without an entry pass.   Stragglers straining to eavesdrop on the launch event.  "HILLARY: DEPORT ILLEGALS"  What I got was a lot of Anti-Hillary protestors. One lonely Ted Cruz supporter ("Born and raised in Brooklyn") tirelessly made her rounds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrqRoSnakbg Anti-Hillary protestors with Hypocri$y t-shirts protested. I'm not sure if they were attacking her from the left or the right, but I would guess left because they did not welcome the Ted Crus lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEoHj6CKZms
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messagemode1 posted:I didn't get tickets to the Hillary launch but I live on the island so I thought I'd take a walk to the park and see what I could see without an entry pass. Well, seeing that the bottom of the top sign says "gop.com" I'm guessing right.
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messagemode1 posted:I didn't get tickets to the Hillary launch but I live on the island so I thought I'd take a walk to the park and see what I could Awesome! Been wanting to see some protester pictures or videos at these rallies or candidate stops. Did they have any chants?
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Drastic Actions posted:Well, seeing that the bottom of the top sign says "gop.com" I'm guessing right. Yes, the RNC bussed people to Roosevelt Island today, along with their spokesman Michael Short. 
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Mr Hootington posted:Awesome! Been wanting to see some protester pictures or videos at these rallies or candidate stops. Did they have any chants? S T O P H is for Hypocrisy Hashtag Shady (this one was really stupid, where one guy was yelling it baseball style but the other people were chanting plainly) Stop Hill Ary I didn't notice the gop.com website at the bottom of the signs, but I did notice they were all white. The Ted Cruz lady had her own chant, which was "HILLARY LIES. HILLARY LIES. HILLARY LIES. HILLARY LIES" and then the rest of her speech which I caught a bit of on video.
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Skwirl posted:why isn't voter registration an automatic thing that happens. Because then there wouldn't be a way for the corpulent alabaster cancer to throw up barriers between anyone not lolligagging around the exurbs in SUVs parasitically existing off the teats of the city they're stuck to like big fat loving remorae.
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