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Breakfast All Day posted:who wouldve guessed tbc was a fan of protecting harassing posting tbf free speech is the only reason PHP should be legal
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Vlad the Retailer posted:tbf free speech is the only reason PHP should be legal well at least there is finally one genuinely funny post itt
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I'm okay with not giving a megaphone to noxious viewpoints, but they should have done a lot more than ban one subreddit with 5k people laughing at fat folks, while still allowing all the other nazi subreddits and so on. If they're going to prune the objectionable parts might as well finish the job, and let the offended subhumans go elsewhere
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i've honestly never understood why freedom of speech is like, the one black and white thing that nobody is willing to be flexible on. it's entirely possible to make judgements about what kinds of speech are good and what kind aren't, just like it's possible to decide what kinds of things other things are crimes and what kinds of things aren't. obviously most of it has to do with fear of government suppression but the government has thousands of other tools for suppressing a populace i dont see what makes speech so special
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Jun 13, 2015 22:32
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i've honestly never understood why freedom of speech is like, the one black and white thing that nobody is willing to be flexible on. it's entirely possible to make judgements about what kinds of speech are good and what kind aren't, just like it's possible to decide what kinds of things other things are crimes and what kinds of things aren't. if you're referring to free speech as in constitutionally protected speech, and suppression of that speech by the government, then the main issue is that allowing the government to decide what is or isn't objectionable speech would be fine, so long as you fully trust the decisions of your government today, tomorrow and forever. If the government had the ability to suppress speech, you can forget about the privacy debate we're having right now, or watching Citizen Four just for starters. The robust protections of speech in America are imo one of the only things holding the line. As you said, there are plenty of other ways to suppress speech, and free speech is one of the few ways left to counter that. If anything, general suppression of viewpoints that are disagreeable isn't going to change the minds of those who believe them, it's just going to make it less visible so you're not even aware of it, which is probably worse.
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The Management posted:fatchicksinpartyhats.com, a member of the portal of evil network
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i've honestly never understood why freedom of speech is like, the one black and white thing that nobody is willing to be flexible on. it's entirely possible to make judgements about what kinds of speech are good and what kind aren't, just like it's possible to decide what kinds of things other things are crimes and what kinds of things aren't. why it's as if straight white males don't want anyone telling them they can't call people faggots or something
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http://gizmodo.com/fat-hating-redditors-flee-to-voat-overload-servers-de-1710690125
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Luigi Thirty posted:why it's as if straight white males don't want anyone telling them they can't call people faggots or something
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Luigi Thirty posted:why it's as if straight white males don't want anyone telling them they can't call people faggots or something fag
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Smythe posted:fag problematic
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good sub reddits: /r/bbs /r/ANSIart/ /r/retrogaming /r/TheMakingOfGames/ bad subreddits: the rest + /r/yospos and the ones i mentioned above I use reddit now mostly like i used the grey forums before reddit: I don't want to spend hour researching which program for what is best, thank god some nerds have done it, reddit made it faster than going to grey forums and read 10,000 post megathread.
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:obviously most of it has to do with fear of government suppression but the government has thousands of other tools for suppressing a populace i dont see what makes speech so special What is this, like a reverse-slippery-slope fallacy? lol @ people already in a position of power and privilege saying "I don't get why people make such a big deal about the Bill of Rights"
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"Dear Department of Fair Employment and Housing ... a report about Reddit Inc. discrimination posted:BACKGROUND omitted: his 27 citations, 7 of which are just "censored from reddit" e: in summary, 
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atomicthumbs posted:lmao
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quote:Question about what I feel to definitely feel to be police harassment. I have lived nextdoor to officer friendly for about 3 years now. We have never gotten along mainly because he judges me because im covered in tattoos. He has randomly stopped me and tried to frisk me over 50 times. He has also arrested me on four different occasions, loving FOUR. Each time it was for something completely fabricated or just all together bullshit. Everything he has ever arrested me for was dropped by the state, none of them ever even made it to a court. Anyway for about a month or two after his most recent arrest was dropped he didn't really mess with me. I was so happy.I guessed that maybe something was said to him about all the BS arrests and was maybe told to back up off me. I was wrong. For a few days now he has been back at it. Following me around, loving with me, watching every move I make, just straight up harassing me. let's see his post hist-- quote:opiates: 125 hmmmmm.
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Jun 15, 2015 12:44
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:good sub reddits: thank you for posting the good things on reddit. let's keep this thread positive 
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Jun 15, 2015 12:53
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oh good reddit got rid of a HAES mockery forum and a neogaf refugee camp while boards devoted to pictures of dead kids and worse remain this seems like a sane move from a company that recently handed the keys to a the C-suite equivalent of a radioactive turd who was not only laughed out of court for a gender discrimination suit in which it was revealed she deliberately torpedoed the career of every woman she perceived to be a threat to her own promotion, but is also married to a tire fire fund manager who has been in court more of less nonstop for 15 years racking up $40m and counting in legal fees with no awards to show for it, oh and also seems to have in short say what you like about reddit but their management team really delivers the drama
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Internaut! posted:oh good reddit got rid of a HAES mockery forum and a neogaf refugee camp while boards devoted to pictures of dead kids and worse remain blamming reddit drama on the management team is like blaming the tire fire on the first responders.
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Jun 15, 2015 14:21
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internaut is always posting twitter screencaps in the video games thread. I wonder if that is somehow related to his opinions on the deletion of The Fat People Hate Subreddit.
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my "opinions on the deletion of The Fat People Hate Subreddit" is that it's a pretty funny way to clean up reddit is this a controversial opinion in yospos because lol at reading 8 pages of posts to find out
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The question here isn't even about free speech. There seems to be two questions depending on which side you're on. The first one is if a private company should be held responsible for their product/platform being used in unintended ways to facilitate illegal and/or immoral activity. There is probably no one answer to this, but Reddit management seems to feel some responsibility here ( for once ) and is taking steps to reduce their liability. Nothing about it comes off like they are making overt efforts to stop free speech and reasonable discourse, they just don't want to get sued or be held legally liable for an illegal activity ( for once ... ) If you think that is wrong then you should be citing law and precedence which shows they would not actually be liable, or arguing for new laws that would protect them from any liability. Sorry if might make your case a little harder to make when you confront that you are actually arguing for more deregulation of private business. The second question, if you ignore the active harassment part and just look at it as "people expressing negative views of fat people speech", is if private companies should ever be forced to accommodate and give some presence to all view points that their product/platform could reasonably allow for, or if they have the right to restrict its use to those which they personally feel are acceptable for whatever reason. This almost seems like an obvious question when dealing with things that are obviously offensive and hateful, but what about when its cases like a baker not wanting to make a gay wedding cake? In that case it seemed like most people here agreed the baker was in the wrong and it was correct to pressure his business to accommodate promoting things his personal beliefs objected too. Maybe the burden is on whatever side is promoting the more hateful/discriminatory view ? In any case it seems again there is no one answer, which makes people claiming to worry about slippery slope arguments seem silly. This isn't about free speech being eroded away, it's about what classes we want protected, and which ones we don't. Do you want to argue for fat shaming internet trolls being a protected class and/or fat people to not be protected ? Have fun making that argument.
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reddit is nothing like a baker not making a cake for a gay wedding. it would be like the baker stopping her unpaid interns from scrawling the n word all over their sheet cakes. reddit users are the product, not the customer and a company has every right to restrict speech among its contributors.
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theflyingexecutive posted:reddit is nothing like a baker not making a cake for a gay wedding. it would be like the baker stopping her unpaid interns from scrawling the n word all over their sheet cakes. um.
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theflyingexecutive posted:reddit is nothing like a baker not making a cake for a gay wedding. it would be like the baker stopping her unpaid interns from scrawling the n word all over their sheet cakes. reddit users are the product, not the customer and a company has every right to restrict speech among its contributors. I think it's actually more like if the customers at the Oklahoma City bakery spontaneously died of icing poisoning on the way to the sugar (n word) factory in Topeka, where the factory in the case represents Conde Nast management and the sprinkles are upvotes
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at the date posted:I think it's actually more like if the customers at the Oklahoma City bakery spontaneously died of icing poisoning on the way to the sugar (n word) factory in Topeka, where the factory in the case represents Conde Nast management and the sprinkles are upvotes 
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reddit is like a baker only the cakes are all made of poo poo and the baker is too
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Jun 16, 2015 02:35
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The results are in: Reddit is good.
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Jun 16, 2015 02:43
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good for me to poop on
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at the date posted:I think it's actually more like if the customers at the Oklahoma City bakery spontaneously died of icing poisoning on the way to the sugar (n word) factory in Topeka, where the factory in the case represents Conde Nast management and the sprinkles are upvotes lol
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duTrieux. posted:blamming reddit drama on the management team is like blaming the tire fire on the first responders. my only beef is i frankly don't give a poo poo about the fire so just let it burn
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the reddit the reddit the reddit's on fire we don't need no wat-actually we need gasoline. lots of gasoline. maybe jet fuel.
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so if they're going after all the hate subs now why do they let stuff like /r/coontown exist? is making fun of fat people worse than outright racist hate speech?
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Citizen Tayne posted:The results are in: Reddit is good. no
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Sudo Echo posted:so if they're going after all the hate subs now why do they let stuff like /r/coontown exist? is making fun of fat people worse than outright racist hate speech? the official word is they are going after subreddits that encourage actual targeted harassment of people. hate speech is a-ok if it's generalized and not directed at specific people and even then afaik if you talk about specific people but don't encourage people to go carpet-bomb their blog with hate speech you'll still be ok. the absolutely funniest loving part of all of this is reddit culture is anti-doxxing because when shitheels like violentacrez get outed they get harassed and fired and that's bad because that's chilling to free speech but somehow this new policy is also chilling to free speech. so free speech for creeps and perverts is sacrosanct, but free speech for fatties and sjws is not important i guess lol gj reddit, gj
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um what why isnt this thread closed meow
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Sudo Echo posted:so if they're going after all the hate subs now why do they let stuff like /r/coontown exist? is making fun of fat people worse than outright racist hate speech? remember when the president did an ask/tell on the same website that hosts r/chimpout
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