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Mr. Fortitude posted:It's not like Fallout 1 had much in the way of answering what people ate or drank either. Well, besides human meat shipped to Bob in the Hub which was then shipped all over, seemingly but that begs the question of how did the meat get so well preserved during those journeys? One of the first quests you solve in Fallout 1 is helping a community figure out crop rotation...
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MisterBibs posted:Backwards review scores? What do you mean? Both 3 and NV got perfectly reasonable scores. Maybe NV got dinged a bit since it had to follow 3, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. New Vegas is way better than 3 and thus should've had a much higher review score (I played the hell out of FO3 when it came out though). MisterBibs posted:Being both commercially and critically successful says a whole bunch about a game's quality, actually. It really really doesn't and that goes for any form of media (Jurassic World is utter garbage and just set the global record for weekend box office or something).
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Jun 14, 2015 20:02
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Groovelord Neato posted:New Vegas is way better than 3 and thus should've had a much higher review score (I played the hell out of FO3 when it came out though).
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Jun 14, 2015 20:03
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RE: Food Isn't the vast majority of food you find in Fallout games canned/preserved food from the pre-war era? I always assumed that there was a massive abundance of food made possible with automation (e.g. robots), but then the bombs fell and the tiny remainder of the population now has enough food to basically last them forever. It's all expired and irradiated but that probably doesn't matter when people are fighting radscorpions and giant roaches.
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I played and enjoyed Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim(with the recognition that the story, writing, and characters in all but Morrowind were extremely poor). I played and enjoyed Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, and New Vegas. But Fallout 3 was still a game that I found lacking. Bethesda CAN make a game world with verisimilitude, as evidenced by The Elder Scrolls. But I think Fallout 3 suffered from being Bethesda's first crack at the franchise. This is why you see utterly nonsensical parts(Megaton; Little Lamplight; Republic of Dave; Bigtown; really everything except MAYBE Rivet City) so they cargo culted the most obvious parts of the previous games. Whereas the 50's motif was limited to the intro cut scenes and general aesthetic sense in the first Fallouts, it shoved in the player's face in neon lights in Fallout 3. Harold and the Brotherhood of Steel are forced into the story for no logical reason. The GECK becomes a miracle replicator rather than a set of seeds and farm implements. Etc, etc, etc. So with all that, I'm excited about Fallout 4. Bethesda has had some time to work with the series, and New Vegas has come out since. Bethesda has shown that it recognized some good ideas from New Vegas in Skyrim(although they weren't as well executed) so I hope and expect we'll see further importation of ideas into Fallout 4. And I can understand how someone could defend Fallout 3 as a fun run around and shoot stuff game. But I don't understand how someone could defend its story or setting. Precisely because its legacy is not Doom and Quake but Fallout and the Elder Scrolls.
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Jun 14, 2015 20:19
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kill a radscorpion and you got enough meat to last a week and there's literally an infinite amount of radscorpions in this fictional videogame world
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Jun 14, 2015 20:20
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Zzulu posted:kill a radscorpion and you got enough meat to last a week and there's literally an infinite amount of radscorpions in this fictional videogame world mmm scorpion meat tastes just like chicken
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Jun 14, 2015 20:23
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Is there supposed to be new info out today?
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Jun 14, 2015 20:26
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boneration posted:Is there supposed to be new info out today? Bethesda is doing an E3 presentation at 9 PM EST tonight, hopefully we'll get more info then. If not tonight, probably some time this week.
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Jun 14, 2015 20:28
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Sole Survivor posted:Bethesda is doing an E3 presentation at 9 PM EST tonight, hopefully we'll get more info then. If not tonight, probably some time this week. Good old timezones: guess I'll watch all the stuff tomorrow morning: please don't be bad Bethesda, that would be really cool if you managed to do something good.
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Jun 14, 2015 20:30
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Groovelord Neato posted:New Vegas is way better than 3 and thus should've had a much higher review score (I played the hell out of FO3 when it came out though). New Vegas got the scores it deserved, as did Fallout 3. Just because it was made by the folks that buried the series doesn't mean it's a better game. Groovelord Neato posted:It really really doesn't and that goes for any form of media (Jurassic World is utter garbage and just set the global record for weekend box office or something). JW is awesome and I can't think of any film this year that deserves the success it's getting more. (You're prolly going to say Mad Max, but I'd prefer movies with more dimension than a Fallout 1 sprite...)
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Jun 14, 2015 20:50
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MisterBibs posted:New Vegas got the scores it deserved, as did Fallout 3. Just because it was made by the folks that buried the series doesn't mean it's a better game. It's the better game because it does literally everything better than Fallout 3. Edit: what kind of a colossal idiot likes Jurassic world more than Mad Max Andrast fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jun 14, 2015 |
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Jun 14, 2015 20:55
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MisterBibs posted:New Vegas got the scores it deserved, as did Fallout 3. Just because it was made by the folks that buried the series doesn't mean it's a better game.  how can you be this thickhow
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MisterBibs posted:Just because it was made by the folks that buried the series doesn't mean it's a better game. It is way better though.
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Jun 14, 2015 20:58
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MisterBibs posted:New Vegas got the scores it deserved, as did Fallout 3. Just because it was made by the folks that buried the series doesn't mean it's a better game. Black Isle/Obsidian didn't bury the series, Interplay did because they were loving stupid. Secondly, Jurassic World is dumb fun but you can't seriously say it has more depth to it than the new Mad Max movie which people have written dissertations on about various aspects, including a feminist critique to name a few.
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Jun 14, 2015 21:00
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i wish fallout never turned into a lovely fps
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Jun 14, 2015 21:01
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I don't mind it. Personally the point of view in games like these don't matter much to me
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Jun 14, 2015 21:03
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dangerdoom volvo posted:i wish fallout never turned into a lovely fps im actually glad of it
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Jun 14, 2015 21:07
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prometheusbound2 posted:
I can't understand how someone could defend Fallout 3 as a fun run around and shoot stuff game, because that surely means comparing it with stuff like Doom and Quake.
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Jun 14, 2015 21:09
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MisterBibs posted:JW is awesome and I can't think of any film this year that deserves the success it's getting more. (You're prolly going to say Mad Max, but I'd prefer movies with more dimension than a Fallout 1 sprite...) Only someone who's never seen Jurassic Park could be this stupid and wrong.
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Jun 14, 2015 21:16
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jurassic world as an abortion compared to jurassic park
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This movie has depth *has a guy using trained raptors, also they invent a new superdinosaur cause lord knows people would get sick of the real ones* Jurassic World is the FO3 of movies.
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Jun 14, 2015 21:17
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I just made the mistake of explaining Little Lamplight (or "The Problem of Little Lamplight", as I presented it) to my friends and loved ones and blood began to shoot from their ears and eyes and now I'm all alone, just like the prisoner washing up on the shores of Morrowind. The same thing almost happened to me, luckily I have no friends or loved ones.
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Eonwe posted:im actually glad of it I'm sort of mixed on it, but I enjoyed the new Fallout games for what they were, and them being turned into FPS/RPG hybrids probably meant better sales.
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I hope we get a voiced protagonist like the trailers hinted at, it's kinda tiring having a mute one through all the series
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when i heard there was a superdinosaur in jurassic world i was already mentally done with it i knew what kind of movie it would be where they assumed that a magical park full of dinosaurs running around escaping wasnt an interesting enough hook for audience if your view of the audience is so low that you have to be like 'well yea dinosaurs are ok but what if we made a SUPER DINOSAUR' then its baby poo poo meant for 5 year olds
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Eonwe posted:when i heard there was a superdinosaur in jurassic world i was already mentally done with it kind of like when they introduced an asthmatic robot in star wars who used 6 lightsabers like jedi and robots are already cool you don't have to do some weird lovely mashup
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frajaq posted:I hope we get a voiced protagonist like the trailers hinted at, it's kinda tiring having a mute one through all the series lol at Bethesda making a compelling/interesting voiced protagonist
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boneration posted:Is there supposed to be new info out today? Yes: the game will only be released for the Wii U.
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What's the fix people used to stop Fallout 3 from crashing every 20 minutes? It took me two years to muster playing the game after I bought it because of poo poo like this.
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What if, get this, we make a movie about dinosaurs with lightsabers?
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I kind of hope the next Fallout after this is a 2D shmup. I really like shmups.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What's the fix people used to stop Fallout 3 from crashing every 20 minutes? It took me two years to muster playing the game after I bought it because of poo poo like this. The only fix is not playing it.
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evilmiera posted:I'm sort of mixed on it, but I enjoyed the new Fallout games for what they were, and them being turned into FPS/RPG hybrids probably meant better sales. I'm glad they turned it into an FPS because it takes about 1/100 the time to clear out dungeons compared to the old games.
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Zzulu posted:What if, get this, we make a movie about dinosaurs with lightsabers? set in a post apocalyptic universe
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Acebuckeye13 posted:
Inspector Gesicht posted:What's the fix people used to stop Fallout 3 from crashing every 20 minutes? It took me two years to muster playing the game after I bought it because of poo poo like this. When even Obsidian codes your engine better, you've got a loving problem
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What's the fix people used to stop Fallout 3 from crashing every 20 minutes? It took me two years to muster playing the game after I bought it because of poo poo like this. Set inumhavokthreads in your Fallout.ini to 2. Fallout 3 was designed when dual cores were the norm and quad cores were really rare and it doesn't play well with quad cores as a result. New Vegas fixed it by adding proper quad core support since they were more prevalent by then.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Set inumhavokthreads in your Fallout.ini to 2.
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I swear I will try something else in Fallout 4 that isn't a Stealth Sniper on my first run
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frajaq posted:I swear I will try something else in Fallout 4 that isn't a Stealth Sniper on my first run
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