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Has there ever been a "secret" movie (so to speak) in theaters? Something like no name of the film anywhere so moviegoers don't know what to expect? I was just thinking about how that could be a cool setup for certain kinds of movies, but it's pretty impossible to google search in the terms I've tried to come up with for it.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Can anyone think of a big-budget movie that was popular with critics (at the time of release) but bombed at the box office. I know some major releases gain cult status over time, but the praise doesn't come until after the fact. A hypothetical example: if Fury Road, with all the rave reviews, somehow bombed at the box office. Edge of Tomorrow is the first that comes to mind
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Jun 15, 2015 02:53
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The Gasmask posted:Has there ever been a "secret" movie (so to speak) in theaters? Something like no name of the film anywhere so moviegoers don't know what to expect? I was just thinking about how that could be a cool setup for certain kinds of movies, but it's pretty impossible to google search in the terms I've tried to come up with for it. How would that even work?
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Jun 15, 2015 03:01
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Can anyone think of a big-budget movie that was popular with critics (at the time of release) but bombed at the box office. I know some major releases gain cult status over time, but the praise doesn't come until after the fact. A hypothetical example: if Fury Road, with all the rave reviews, somehow bombed at the box office. Orson Welles had a few of these. For a more contemporary example, Dredd is basically your example of if Fury Road bombed at the box office (at least in terms of goon hype).
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Jun 15, 2015 03:05
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:How would that even work? Don't know, I would picture something like a ticket with a number on it, or "Movie in Theater 3" or something. I remember reading something about a screening of some movie and people didn't know which one it would be until it started iirc, and thats what got me thinking about this to begin with. E: Unrelated, but I just discovered the short film Noah and it was a pretty unique take on Internet communication. Besides that and the Modern Family episode, has there been any good takes on that concept? For people who don't know, it takes place entirely on computer/phone screens. It's only 17 minutes and free online, so if you haven't seen it check it out! http://fusion.net/story/50291/watch-noah-the-short-film-that-inspired-modern-familys-iphone-filmed-episode/ The Gasmask fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 04:00
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Can anyone think of a big-budget movie that was popular with critics (at the time of release) but bombed at the box office. I know some major releases gain cult status over time, but the praise doesn't come until after the fact. A hypothetical example: if Fury Road, with all the rave reviews, somehow bombed at the box office. Fury Road made twice its budget. I do not think it bombed.
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Jun 15, 2015 04:09
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bobkatt013 posted:Fury Road made twice its budget. I do not think it bombed. Good job pointing out the obvious non answer to a question not asked.
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Jun 15, 2015 04:15
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The Gasmask posted:Has there ever been a "secret" movie (so to speak) in theaters? Something like no name of the film anywhere so moviegoers don't know what to expect? I was just thinking about how that could be a cool setup for certain kinds of movies, but it's pretty impossible to google search in the terms I've tried to come up with for it. We have those in Germany, they're called Sneak Previews. Nobody knows what it'll be except some upcoming movie. That does narrow the options down a bit but you still don't know what they will show in advance. They do show it like 1 week before official release, and it's only one showing.
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Jun 15, 2015 07:50
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The Gasmask posted:Don't know, I would picture something like a ticket with a number on it, or "Movie in Theater 3" or something. I remember reading something about a screening of some movie and people didn't know which one it would be until it started iirc, and thats what got me thinking about this to begin with. Unfriended
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Jun 15, 2015 07:54
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The Gasmask posted:Don't know, I would picture something like a ticket with a number on it, or "Movie in Theater 3" or something. I remember reading something about a screening of some movie and people didn't know which one it would be until it started iirc, and thats what got me thinking about this to begin with. Grindhouse was kind of like this, in that all that was clear from marketing was that it would be at least one movie parodying/recreating trashy sleaze from bygone decades. There was no indication if it was a full movie or a Kentucky Fried Movie situation or what. Seeing it in the theater and having no idea what would happen after Planet Terror ended and the trailers started up is probably one of the most exciting times I've ever had in a theater, and one of the few times my viewing experience has ever been enhanced by the energy of the crowd there with me.
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Why did Speed Racer bomb so hard anyways? Rad movie Too much uncanny valley from the Sky Captain style overabundance of CG, I'd think.
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Jun 15, 2015 08:44
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The Gasmask posted:E: Unrelated, but I just discovered the short film Noah and it was a pretty unique take on Internet communication. Besides that and the Modern Family episode, has there been any good takes on that concept? For people who don't know, it takes place entirely on computer/phone screens. It's only 17 minutes and free online, so if you haven't seen it check it out!
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The Gasmask posted:Has there ever been a "secret" movie (so to speak) in theaters? Something like no name of the film anywhere so moviegoers don't know what to expect? I was just thinking about how that could be a cool setup for certain kinds of movies, but it's pretty impossible to google search in the terms I've tried to come up with for it. Not quite what you are asking but in the UK there is a hugely successful company called Secret Cinema, where you buy a ticket and are told what the theme is (and people dress up, there are stalls selling food and drinks, etc), but the film itself is a surprise. Editing to clarify that it shows older films, like Back to the Future, Lawrence of Arabia, and Star Wars. therattle fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 15:21
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Oh man, it's awesome to hear that some places have taken on that concept! The theme night idea is one I hadn't considered, it would be fun to try to guess what it might be based on what the theater suggests. It probably works best like the Germany one, with one single secret showing of a new movie - then it can't be spoiled (people saying what the secret movie is after, for example). Gonna check out the other Noah-like movies that have been suggested, what really drew me to Noah was how it zoomed in and followed the mouse during tense moments, a very good representation of how people jump from tab to tab and hover over the post button when they know posting it is a bad idea. Also the highlighting of text - I do that a lot while reading stuff online, and I've seen some friends do it, but I've never seen it represented in a movie until this.
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Jun 15, 2015 15:52
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As part of festivals where you've paid a flat rate for access to the entire weekend I've seen a mystery film that's unannounced (apart from approx runtime) until showtime. Also there was a monthly cult-classic event at my old local cinema that was a mystery set up and you just had to trust the curator's taste. Was Repo Man the only time I went. Has to be an old film they can pick up cheap. And some limited genre or theme or people probably won't risk it. Wouldn't work with a new release. And it's a one off event so couldn't be any wider release.
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Jun 15, 2015 18:42
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Can anyone think of a big-budget movie that was popular with critics (at the time of release) but bombed at the box office. I know some major releases gain cult status over time, but the praise doesn't come until after the fact. A hypothetical example: if Fury Road, with all the rave reviews, somehow bombed at the box office. That reminded me of an idea Douglas Hofstadter talks about in his book of collected essays, Metamagical Themas: a book that contains reviews of itself. He explained how it could be done, in stages, the collected reviews passed around to new reviewers who would write reviews of the current contents and then pass it along to the next reviewer (with the first several reviewers allowed to modify their reviews as the book's contents changed). So in theory, I think what you're proposing is possible but would require a lot of imagination and dedication to the idea to pull off.
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Jun 15, 2015 23:33
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Can anyone think of a big-budget movie that was popular with critics (at the time of release) but bombed at the box office. I know some major releases gain cult status over time, but the praise doesn't come until after the fact. A hypothetical example: if Fury Road, with all the rave reviews, somehow bombed at the box office. Dredd might qualify, but I'd call it medium budget. Green Lantern cost quote a bit and was a bomb, Lone Ranger would have done okay if it cost half as a much. It had an insane budget though.
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Skwirl posted:Dredd might qualify, but I'd call it medium budget. Green Lantern cost quote a bit and was a bomb, Lone Ranger would have done okay if it cost half as a much. It had an insane budget though. Green Lantern and Lone Ranger were not critical darlings, though.
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Jun 16, 2015 03:10
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Green Lantern and Lone Ranger were not critical darlings, though. Ahh, I missed that bit. Either Dredd or Edge of Tomorrow. I don't think they were critical darlings, but Oblivion and After Earth both had mostly positive reviews I think, and were box office failures. And I wouldn't call Fury Road a bomb, but domestic box office is less than the budget so it's probably not considered a success b6 it's studio.
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After Earth did not get good reviews
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Jun 16, 2015 03:57
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In non A-list movies, didn't a lot of critics really like Boyhood, even though no one else really did?
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Jun 16, 2015 05:58
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Snak posted:In non A-list movies, didn't a lot of critics really like Boyhood, even though no one else really did? It was super art house, even though it pretended not to be.
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Jun 16, 2015 06:43
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therattle posted:Not quite what you are asking but in the UK there is a hugely successful company called Secret Cinema, where you buy a ticket and are told what the theme is (and people dress up, there are stalls selling food and drinks, etc), but the film itself is a surprise. Oh this reminds me, I went to a screening of what they call "Hit & Run cinema" in Berlin. They pick a movie and a location and you get an email 24 hours in advance. It's very hush-hush and very cheap - EUR 5 - but if you like you can pay more. They showed "The Disappearance of Alice Creed" under an old railroad bridge, that's where I went along, and some other movie, I don't know which, at the abandoned Teufelsberg radar station... they usually pick a movie that is fitting for the location, no matter where that location is (it's something abandoned usually though) and seem to be escorted away by cops a lot because of this. Imagine watching some food industry documentary at an abandoned slaughterhouse. Or Cabin in the Woods in a literal cabin in the woods.
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Jun 16, 2015 07:49
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Snak posted:In non A-list movies, didn't a lot of critics really like Boyhood, even though no one else really did? It played for months and made like ten times its budget.
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The Grey probably wasn't a blockbuster but I dunno. Sure was good though. My question: what movie started the 80's trend of having a lame pop ballad sung during montages? Watching Bloodsport again and there are two so far. Didn't rocky have eye of the tiger play during a training montage? Was it the first? EDit: wow, a third song montage. got any sevens fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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Jun 16, 2015 08:51
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Eye of the Tiger was Rocky III. The first Rocky was Gonna Fly Now.
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Jun 16, 2015 11:39
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Snak posted:In non A-list movies, didn't a lot of critics really like Boyhood, even though no one else really did? Most people I know loved Boyhood.
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Snak posted:In non A-list movies, didn't a lot of critics really like Boyhood, even though no one else really did? This is insane.
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Jun 16, 2015 16:53
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Well I guess I was wrong then. (I didn't watch it)
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Can anyone think of a big-budget movie that was popular with critics (at the time of release) but bombed at the box office. I know some major releases gain cult status over time, but the praise doesn't come until after the fact. A hypothetical example: if Fury Road, with all the rave reviews, somehow bombed at the box office. Dark City might count, although I think that movie's beloved status came after the Director's Cut removed the lovely beginning where they explain the whole plot in case you were in danger of being intrigued.
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Jun 16, 2015 16:57
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Something that's always confused me in the movie Patriot Games. So the bad guys get captured early in the film and they're being transported to somewhere in the back of a police van. They're on the bridge and that one slimy looking cop says something to Sean Bean or Patrick Bergan before an explosion goes off implying that he's sympathetic to their cause and helping with their escape. Then when the bad guys get all the cops on the bridge they execute them including the slimy looking cop. Was he working with them, or not? The movie seems to suggest that, but then why would they execute him? It has been a while since I've seen it so I could be misremembering.
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Not sure if this is the best thread for this, apologies in advance. I haven't seen Gone Girl and I just saw the book of it on the coffee table. The little I know about the story indicates it's a mystery, as such I'm wondering which is the better version? Normally books are superior imo, but things like Fight Club and the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo are better films than books. Both of which are I now realise were also directed by Fincher and deal with mysteries/twists.
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EmmyOk posted:Not sure if this is the best thread for this, apologies in advance. I haven't seen Gone Girl and I just saw the book of it on the coffee table. The little I know about the story indicates it's a mystery, as such I'm wondering which is the better version? Normally books are superior imo, but things like Fight Club and the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo are better films than books. Both of which are I now realise were also directed by Fincher and deal with mysteries/twists. I've heard enough people convincingly argue it both ways that I don't think there's a "definitive" opinion. My personal stance is as movie, but that's because I saw it before reading the book as much as anything else.
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Are there any movies that were marketed as being one genre and turned out being something completely different? I was thinking there was a discussion about some movie (maybe even in this thread) about a movie that looked like a children's movie from the trailers and ended up being some hosed up adult movie on par with Pink Flamingos.
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SkunkDuster posted:Are there any movies that were marketed as being one genre and turned out being something completely different? I was thinking there was a discussion about some movie (maybe even in this thread) about a movie that looked like a children's movie from the trailers and ended up being some hosed up adult movie on par with Pink Flamingos. I always remember A History of Violence being way oversold as a horror thriller instead of the slow-burn noirish thing we got.
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SkunkDuster posted:Are there any movies that were marketed as being one genre and turned out being something completely different? I was thinking there was a discussion about some movie (maybe even in this thread) about a movie that looked like a children's movie from the trailers and ended up being some hosed up adult movie on par with Pink Flamingos. Fight Club was marketed as exactly what all the dumbos who later made their own fight clubs thought it was--a slick celebration of violence with Brad Pitt as a cool detached action god. I don't know if that was a mistake from the marketing people or something clever though--or completely cynical manipulation to maximize revenue streams.
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I don't really follow much behind-the-scenes drama in Hollywood, is there a particular reason why Judd Apatow's cinema career plummeted off of a cliff after This Is 40? I remember a lot of grumbling surrounding that movie (especially accusations of nepotism with casting his family members in it and how out-of-touch it was to have the family be so wealthy and well-off) but it still made back almost twice its budget domestically, having him going from being involved in multiple movies a year to putting out one movie in three years is a hell of a drop off even accounting for his increased involvement in television.
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If only From Dusk Till Dawn didn't spoil that it was a vampire movie in the trailer, I think that would've been perfect. I haven't seen it in a couple years but I'm pretty sure the first like 40 minutes there's nothing to really indicate that it's a vampire movie.SkunkDuster posted:Are there any movies that were marketed as being one genre and turned out being something completely different? I was thinking there was a discussion about some movie (maybe even in this thread) about a movie that looked like a children's movie from the trailers and ended up being some hosed up adult movie on par with Pink Flamingos. Bridge to Terabithia
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The Duke posted:If only From Dusk Till Dawn didn't spoil that it was a vampire movie in the trailer, I think that would've been perfect. I haven't seen it in a couple years but I'm pretty sure the first like 40 minutes there's nothing to really indicate that it's a vampire movie.
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SkunkDuster posted:Are there any movies that were marketed as being one genre and turned out being something completely different? I was thinking there was a discussion about some movie (maybe even in this thread) about a movie that looked like a children's movie from the trailers and ended up being some hosed up adult movie on par with Pink Flamingos. I always remember the Adam Sandler movie Click being marketed as straight comedy in line with much of his earlier work, but turned out to be a clumsily repackaged version of It's a Wonderful Life or something. Mr. Belpit fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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