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mackintosh posted:This is exactly what I'm afraid of. I hope I can kill them. It'll be the Futurama episode 'The Luck of the Fryrish'. You'll spend the whole game looking for your child only to discover they died of old age 100 years ago and were an awesome person.
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MisterBibs posted:What boggles my mind about this whole thing is that whenever the next game in the Fallout series rolls around, 80% of what you might've done as the previous character is lost to history, in-universe. Sure, you defeated A and saved B and known throughout the Wasteland as C, but nowhere is it memorialized the little details. Maybe it's just be, but I could never bring myself to kvetch over the role-playing part of things without a ME3-style system in place. I'm actually okay with that, because it means each individual game can be its own beast and the designers can give you maximum agency. The ME system made sense for a limited series about a single individual, but Fallout is more the story of the world, and it's more important that that world react within a game than between games. if you made a game with the variability of FO1/2/NV and tried to slave its sequels to a savegame, you just wouldn't have the resources to make another game of the same scope building on all those dominoes. cthulhoo posted:find an incinerated babby corpse, press X to pay respect excuse me HOLD Y thank you we're not savages the "forage" animation is five seconds long thank you
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mackintosh posted:One thing I'm curious about, having watched the presentation just now - why go to all the trouble of naming the baby, if your family supposedly gets incinerated, or dies via some other means? Seems like an awful lot of attention to detail for a short opening sequence. I'm definitely up for finding your own custom son/daughter alive in the wasteland and picking them up as a companion.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:17
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cthulhoo posted:find an incinerated babby corpse, press X to pay respect This certainly brings back cringe-worthy memories.
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MisterBibs posted:What boggles my mind about this whole thing is that whenever the next game in the Fallout series rolls around, 80% of what you might've done as the previous character is lost to history, in-universe. Sure, you defeated A and saved B and known throughout the Wasteland as C, but nowhere is it memorialized the little details. Maybe it's just be, but I could never bring myself to kvetch over the role-playing part of things without a ME3-style system in place. That sounds like it would be nice on paper but you need to consider that Fallout is a series that spans over three platforms now. A little questionnaire or something at the start would be neat, though. I just thought of something, though. Do you think this Fallout will reference the others like New Vegas or 2 and even 3 or will it just be another self-contained kind of game?
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Steve2911 posted:I'm definitely up for finding your own custom son/daughter alive in the wasteland and picking them up as a companion. i'm the day 1 "rape your kid" mod
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Steve2911 posted:I'm definitely up for finding your own custom son/daughter alive in the wasteland and picking them up as a companion. I checked the timeline and Fallout 3 starts 200 years after the war, Fallout 1 80 years after, so unless it's it's a SERIOUS prequel, you'd be picking up a withered ghoul, at best cthulhoo posted:i'm the day 1 "rape your kid" mod does the above information make this better or worse
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Jun 15, 2015 10:19
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I get angrier every single day that some people, many people, harbor anything but disgust for bethesdas games. One day it will kill me irl.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:19
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I think all the stuff from the trailer looked good and I am looking forward to this game.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:21
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mackintosh posted:One thing I'm curious about, having watched the presentation just now - why go to all the trouble of naming the baby, if your family supposedly gets incinerated, or dies via some other means? Seems like an awful lot of attention to detail for a short opening sequence. Fallout 4 is literally going to be reverse Fallout 3 where you find your kid and try to stop/help them from doing the dumbest poo poo ever.
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Have to say, didn't give a poo poo about this game until the E3 presentation, making your own settlements is right up my alley. I want to make Ma-Ma from Dress and peddle stims. 
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Theta Zero posted:That sounds like it would be nice on paper but you need to consider that Fallout is a series that spans over three platforms now. A little questionnaire or something at the start would be neat, though. not just three platforms, but also 120+ years of world. the games aren't tight sequels. there are huge gaps between them. it's not really feasible. the entire landscape of the world would change. and who knows, it's Bethesda, they'll probably deliberately declare New Vegas noncanon for no reason and mention how the water was all purified but then a mudcrab died in it and it's all irradiated again
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Jun 15, 2015 10:21
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You know the settlement stuff will be like every similar openworld game thing ever right? It'll look great for the first couple of hours, endless possibilities, and then all the limitations will become apparent and you'll never touch it again.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:23
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Theta Zero posted:Probably a plot twist where they're also alive or something. Vault 111 is really vault 101 and you are the dad. It's a prequel.
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Jun 15, 2015 10:24
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i like how the house you place is already dilapidated and rotten
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megalodong posted:You know the settlement stuff will be like every similar openworld game thing ever right? "this is so cool! wait, you mean it means nothing at all? it's a glorified, buggy minigame, and Bethesda's AI can't path around that saguaro I put on the bridge? oh I'll come back to it later"
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Theta Zero posted:I just thought of something, though. Do you think this Fallout will reference the others like New Vegas or 2 and even 3 or will it just be another self-contained kind of game? I'm not comfortable enough to toxx myself over it, but it wouldn't surprise me if most of NV isn't discussed. There's multiple outcomes, the outcomes have zero impact on the story at hand (seeing how it's on the other side of the country), was made by others, and was more of a side-story than a true sequel. 3 has a lot more chance to be referenced.
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crawlkill posted:not just three platforms, but also 120+ years of world. the games aren't tight sequels. there are huge gaps between them. it's not really feasible. the entire landscape of the world would change. That or the water purification didn't solve all the problems, or somehow created new issues. Wasn't Fallout 2 taking the ending of 1 and going more than a generation after it anyway? I don't see how a fairly extended timeline (200 years might be a bit much, though) after the start of the war is all that controversial considering the amount of time and world development between 1 and 2.
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crawlkill posted:I checked the timeline and Fallout 3 starts 200 years after the war, Fallout 1 80 years after, so unless it's it's a SERIOUS prequel, you'd be picking up a withered ghoul, at best Your character somehow doesn't age for 200 years so it's hardly a massive stretch to assume something similar could happen to the babby.
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megalodong posted:You know the settlement stuff will be like every similar openworld game thing ever right? And then someone will expand upon the concept with a mod. Like FO3's Realtime Settler which was great, but could have used the help of some pre-established ground work which FO4 has.
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Speaking of endings, you guys are so hung up on the dumb android angle you guys don't even see the more obvious twist they're going to pull out of their asses. They're going to make 'your' kid the main antagonist of this sequal. E: beaten. Back Hack fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 10:27
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Steve2911 posted:Your character somehow doesn't age for 200 years so it's hardly a massive stretch to assume something similar could happen to the babby. Vault 111's experiment will probably be cryogenics. Somebody should compile a list of these Fallout predictions people are throwing out and repost them when the game is released.
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Neeksy posted:That or the water purification didn't solve all the problems, or somehow created new issues. It was like ~60 years after? Tandi, a young woman from 1, was old in 2. Monster w21 Faces posted:And then someone will expand upon the concept with a mod. Like FO3's Realtime Settler which was great, but could have used the help of some pre-established ground work which FO4 has. Hopefully not as a paid mod, but fair enough.
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Neeksy posted:That or the water purification didn't solve all the problems, or somehow created new issues. I'm saying savegame imports are unfeasible because the timeline of the world is very stretched out. it's not three sequential stories like ME. It went war|80 years|FO1|80 years|FO2|40 years|FO3|a few years|New Vegas. across decades of time, the choices you'd made would either be inconsequential or totally critical. I think it's okay each new Fallout game starts with its own assumptions about how the previous games went. there are wayyy bigger problems with the franchise than that. timeline's on the wiki, if you're curious: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
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crawlkill posted:I checked the timeline and Fallout 3 starts 200 years after the war, Fallout 1 80 years after, so unless it's it's a SERIOUS prequel, you'd be picking up a withered ghoul, at best It'd be a 200 year old adult in the BODY of an 8 year old girl of course duh so no laws would be broken of course let's get our conventions right here
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Back Hack posted:Speaking of endings, you guys are so hung up on the dumb android angle you guys don't even see the more obvious twist they're going to pull out of their asses. They're going to make 'your' kid the main antagonist of this sequal. That seems kinda like a "Well duh" thing.
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I'm not feeling the whole voiced protagonist thing. Reading Bethesda style dialogue is bad enough, I'm not looking forwards to hearing it as well. Also it will undoubtedly make modding dialogue related stuff a pain. Speaking of modding: Bethesda.net is going to be the pay-for-mods platform, isn't it?  I really hope Bethesda will open the GUI for modding themselves in the GECK2.0. Oh well. At least the weapon crafting looked pretty neat.
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Steve2911 posted:Your character somehow doesn't age for 200 years so it's hardly a massive stretch to assume something similar could happen to the babby. I thought people were saying you're a roborg or something, I'm honestly trying to resist knowledge on this topic
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Also if Bethesda put any real thought at all into the ending I'm going to be pissed. Who remembers or even cares about how FO3 or NV ended? NV was a great game but the ending was 100% balls and FO3 was just the predictable culmination to a dumb plot where I couldn't kill my dad straight off because he was surrounded by Bethesda walls Bethesda games go: Tutorial/"hey here's your story" -> throw all that out of the window -> 200 hours of madness -> "I should get this main quest line done so my quest log is tidier" -> whatever cutscene you get I guess
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They managed to make up for bad graphics and probably a bad story with a city building aspect. I accept this trade. My money is nearly theirs.
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Freakazoid_ posted:They managed to make up for bad graphics and probably a bad story with a city building aspect. *places a rotten prefab shack on a 10 year old looking ground texture* ah finally a feature i always wanted, city building *satisfied smile*
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mackintosh posted:This is my major complaint. I hate having a voice in a, supposedly, blank slate RPG. If they wanted this to be an open world Mass Effect clone, they could have just said so, and ran with it. Having a voice actor makes me feel like playing a character, rather than that character being my avatar. It's just not the same. It doesn't make it any less enjoyable, but it changes my perception of the game. Yes it is pretty clear this game is going to be heavily influenced by Mass Effect. Which says far more about Bethesda than any writer possibly could.
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Epic High Five posted:NV was a great game but the ending was 100% balls I didn't care about the actual plot conclusion but I liked the ending in general because I'm a loving sucker for "you did good and/or bad and the waste sucks and/or flourishes by your hand" slideshows this was the final nail in the coffin with DA:I for me, that I did every goddamn loving thing in the game and DA:O had had a proper slideshow ending and Inquisition didn't even pretend to care that I'd fixed all the problems in the world
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Things I'm excited for: - SimFallout 2015 - Weapon/armor modding (looks so much more robust than what even the modding scene has put out) Things I'm not excited for: - Having a voice - Starting the game in a relationship - Being assumed straight or closeted from the word "go"
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QuantaStarFire posted:- Starting the game in a relationship post your tumblr
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I guess someone better start working on a day 1 mod to replace the spouse and the baby with cats. Looks great otherwise. 
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QuantaStarFire posted:- Being assumed straight or closeted from the word "go" Heh, poo poo. I didn't even think about that.
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I was going to wait for goty edition, but dam I want a working pipboy.
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