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Nations don't respect our laws, they respect that we are the 800 pound gorilla and that we can make life unbearable for anyone who opposes our will. Snowden is a hero and a genius, and if he was doing photo ops with Kim Jong Un at this very moment it would not detract from the mitzvah he accomplished on behalf of all humanity.
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Nintendo Kid posted:You're utterly and completely wrong. Also what, is the German government grown in a lab somewhere? Is the Bundestag composed of androids? Is german government composition chosen by mysterious tablets that fall from the sky and not elections?
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Jun 14, 2015 19:00
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Huge pubes a plus, this is all your fault. 
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waitwhatno posted:I don't know how to make it anymore clear to you. You think Snowden is a reprehensible person because he is a US traitor. But he is not a traitor to Germany, your laws do not apply here. Governments sign extradition treaties because it is a good idea and necessary, but it does not make Snowden a traitor in Germany. It just means that the governments is obligated to hand him over to you. That's all. Snowden is very popular here and you traitor argument carries zero weight. Putin is also very popular in Germany from what I'm told.
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waitwhatno posted:I don't know how to make it anymore clear to you. You think Snowden is a reprehensible person because he is a US traitor. But he is not a traitor to Germany, your laws do not apply here. Governments sign extradition treaties because it is a good idea and necessary, but it does not make Snowden a traitor in Germany. It just means that the governments is obligated to hand him over to you. That's all. Snowden is very popular here and you traitor argument carries zero weight. I don't think he's reprehensible, you dimwitted kraut. I also never said he's a traitor to Germany. However what he is is a dude who German police would bundle off to the next flight to America if he showed his face there.
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Fojar38 posted:Putin is also very popular in Germany from what I'm told. Discendo Vox posted:Huge pubes a plus, this is all your fault.
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Jun 14, 2015 19:15
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That settles it -- I'm going to spend the morning watching Citizen Four and downloading state secrets on a TOR network.
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Jun 14, 2015 19:27
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Cocoa Ninja posted:That settles it -- I'm going to spend the morning watching Citizen Four and downloading state secrets on a TOR network. lmao
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Jun 14, 2015 19:33
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Oh God, thread is awful again, paging users my dad and Salty Jesus. Get in here, pronto! Check the name  Check the date  Check the words    Sorry about crappy phone pics, I couldn't find my digital camera. Those of you who don't know what that is, it's this
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Jun 14, 2015 19:34
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I just re-installed With Fire and Sword, am I a policy expert?
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Jun 14, 2015 19:36
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I'm curious, has anything been going on with Transnistria after the whole Ukraine crisis started?
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goose fleet posted:I'm curious, has anything been going on with Transnistria after the whole Ukraine crisis started? Well, Ukraine has just recently closed their air & ground space for Russian troops transiting there, and there may be efforts to kill smuggling from there into Odessa which may kill whatever it counts for economy, so there has been a lot of noise over it the last few weeks, but nothing earthshaking. Edit: on a totally different note, some scary stuff in Georgia:  More photos here: https://meduza.io/galleries/2015/06/14/navodnenie-v-tbilisi OddObserver fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jun 14, 2015 |
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Jun 14, 2015 19:56
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goose fleet posted:I'm curious, has anything been going on with Transnistria after the whole Ukraine crisis started? Poroshenko said he would do everything in his power to return the land to Moldova. As mentioned above Ukraine recently denied transit right out of Transnistria, although I believe Russia can still fly goods in.
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Discendo Vox posted:Huge pubes a plus, this is all your fault. I know. I'll close the thread and ship myself to the gulag now.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:I know. I'll close the thread and ship myself to the gulag now. take me with you. they need to hear about our lord and savior
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OddObserver posted:Well, Ukraine has just recently closed their air & ground space for Russian troops transiting there, and there may be efforts to To expand on this, Saakashvili of the 'Georgia miracle' fame was appointed as the governor of the Odessa region and promised to kill smuggling going there. A few days ago there was a report of a 500kg of heroin shipment getting caught by the SBU. Saakashvili would very much like a round 2 with Russia and choking Transnistria would be a good development for Ukraine/Moldova. I wonder if after the narcomoney dries up the region will heat up or someone shoots at Saakashvili.
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Jun 14, 2015 21:02
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waitwhatno posted:Why did you have to wiretapped our Angies phone, Nintendo kid? She didn't do anything to you, she was just chancelloring around! And than you went ahead and started saving my mails and logging my GPS movement data. Whyyyy? Germany's crocodile tears over Merkel's phone are absolutely hilarious. "Boohoohoo, why did you spy on Merkel's phone? By yourself? We would have done it for you! You just had to ask! Why didn't you ask?" http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/30/airbus-could-sue-following-allegations-germany-spied-on-them-for-the-us http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32529277 etc.
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Jun 14, 2015 21:06
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People queuing up in Transnistria for Russian passports over fears the Kyiv Junta is going to invade. Rumors circulated that Russia had eased the process for applying for a Russian passport. https://twitter.com/pavelsheremet/status/609641672062992384/photo/1
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:People queuing up in Transnistria for Russian passports over fears the Kyiv Junta is going to invade. Rumors circulated that Russia had eased the process for applying for a Russian passport. I'm the lack of organised queuing
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Gantolandon posted:All right, the promised effortpost about Polish political parties coming up. Seems like Poland's political process is a dickwave of who's liberalism is the biggest and who gives more money to the catholic church.
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Mans posted:this is a great post, thank you. Pretty much this, yeah. Also currently there's a new flavor of "who's more of an anti-system nonconformist rebel by promising to do the exact same poo poo but without having to be bribed". HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:People queuing up in Transnistria for Russian passports over fears the Kyiv Junta is going to invade. Rumors circulated that Russia had eased the process for applying for a Russian passport. I'm sorry but this is loving appalling and barbaric. There are three things any self-respecting post-communist country should be good at: complaining, drinking, and standing in loving lines. There is no excuse.
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Guildencrantz posted:I'm sorry but this is loving appalling and barbaric. There are three things any self-respecting post-communist country should be good at: complaining, drinking, and standing in loving lines. There is no excuse.
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Guildencrantz posted:Pretty much this, yeah. Also currently there's a new flavor of "who's more of an anti-system nonconformist rebel by promising to do the exact same poo poo but without having to be bribed". Not only that, they're dressed like Americans.
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kalstrams posted:I agree that this, honestly, is surprising. Doubly so remembering my parents' stories about queueing up 4-5 hours in advance of grocery stores' opening to buy some sausages. Have there been any studies that tried to figure how much time an average person stood in line during the life of the Soviet Union?
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awesome-express posted:I'm the lack of organised queuing I!m the fifteen people in tourist attire shot to create an impression of a queue.
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Guildencrantz posted:I'm sorry but this is loving appalling and barbaric. There are three things any self-respecting post-communist country should be good at: complaining, drinking, and standing in loving lines. There is no excuse. Standing in line means implicitly recognizing the existence of other people. Which is a completely disgusting idea.
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Jun 15, 2015 01:47
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Thread saved well done E.E goons
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I am teaching a lesson on propaganda this coming week. Does anyone know of a couple of articles (one American/British and the other Russian) that portray the same even drastically different? I am not totally up to speed on Russian news sites. It doesn't have to be extremely current, but this year would be nice. Thanks.
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Pro Russia parties look like they came out on top in the local elections Moldova had today. Also the prime minister resigned on Friday over allegations that his high school and university degrees had been faked, ha ha ha.
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L-Boned posted:I am teaching a lesson on propaganda this coming week. Does anyone know of a couple of articles (one American/British and the other Russian) that portray the same even drastically different? I am not totally up to speed on Russian news sites. It doesn't have to be extremely current, but this year would be nice. Thanks. Any article from RT or Sputnik about separatist actions causing civilian casualties. http://rt.com/news/230975-kramatorsk-ukraine-shelling-poroshenko/ Key phrases: "Uncertainty" "both sides blamed each other" "Donetsk Militia" "Pro-kiev forces" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11404343/Ukraine-crisis-Amateur-video-shows-deadly-shelling-in-Kramatorsk.html Key phrases: "Russian backed" "Pro-Russian"
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This article may be interesting on it's own. In general, sparatuvs has excellent point - most articles from Sputnik International and Russia Today, which concern factual, or seemingly factual, actions in Ukraine, especially in it's eastern regions for this and last year and it's southern regions for good half of last year as well (and this too, to a lesser extent), will more often than not contradict, to a varying, on case-per-case basis, extent, with their counterparts with mainstream media and news agencies outside, with slight oversimplification of the matter, the CIS and a select few other states, none of whom, to that matter, are part of Anglosphere and/or "West". Russian media and news outlets for domestic auditory does share similar traits, though there is significantly more variance to it. Edit: Expanded a bit. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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So right now I'm untangling the web of gas license ownership in Ukraine and Crimea (mostly pre-annexation status) for work reasons. I'm patiently following the assorted mysterious offshore holdings (Virgin Islands, mostly) and then I stumble onto this face on one of the boards of directors: Not that photo, obviously. It's completely unimportant, but it made me smile.
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Vernii posted:I had a professor once who was a retired colonel who worked in the Defense Intelligence Agency for decades. He gloated a bit in class about how every time a new administration came into office, some political appointee would be put in charge and try to shake things up, but their plans would be half-assed implemented at best, exist only on paper generally, and the agency could and would just wait them out. "High ranking military official sworn to uphold constitution and member of intelligentsia gloats about lack of democracy"
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Poorly moderated by the 82nd most powerful man in British media.
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Jun 15, 2015 16:44
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What's up with the thread title now?
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Arglebargle III posted:What's up with the thread title now? There's been multiple news articles on Brown Moses now, including one hilarious overblown "IS HE A THREAT TO WORLD PEACE?" one.
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brown moses did WW3
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Has anything weird been going on in Kaliningrad lately? Like, isn't there a Russian military presence there?
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goose fleet posted:Has anything weird been going on in Kaliningrad lately? Like, isn't there a Russian military presence there? Last December I believe the Kremlin confirmed the basing of Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad (there had been sightings and reports of them there for a while), otherwise just the usual.
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