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I think we're missing the obvious thing about their disgust for trans people in that they seem to think everyone who is trans gets their dick crudely chopped off in some slapdash plastic surgery clinic and that makes them uncomfortable. All they care about is the genitals.
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Read the freep thread (don't. save yourself.) any time they're talking about gay rights. All anus all day.
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Jun 15, 2015 16:18
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Keeshhound posted:This is the pertinent part. A group's influence rests less on it's size, and more on how loud it is. Especially when participation in politics is still a pretty low priority for most people (recent Presidential election turnout is something like %60; it's a lot lower for senate and congressional elections.) That's also a massive deal in that a lot of governing actually happens at lower levels. I kind of wonder if this is why the right is so adamant on destroying the federal government. If you look at population America is mostly liberal at this point. If you go by land area alone it's mostly conservative. I think this is also why the right is playing up this whole "we're good salt of the earth people" angle so hard and vilifying anything that's highly educated or lives in a city.
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Jun 15, 2015 16:47
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Guavanaut posted:Read the freep thread (don't. save yourself.) any time they're talking about gay rights. Anus all day you say? 
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Thump! posted:Anus all day you say? Your average Freeper thinks about gay sex more than your average gay person.
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Jun 15, 2015 17:14
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Technical Analysis posted:Your average Freeper thinks about gay sex more than your average gay person. Your average Freeper thinks about gay sex more than the total population of San Francisco.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:34
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So uh...I shouldn't vote for Hillary Liberal Logic...any uh...any word on who I SHOULD vote for? No?Coffee And Pie posted:Christ. Dude they're your parents and you live with them: register Republican, agree with whatever they say, and vote however you want. Don't be a Freeper and have family trouble over politics.
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Jun 15, 2015 21:02
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Duke Igthorn posted:So uh...I shouldn't vote for Hillary Liberal Logic...any uh...any word on who I SHOULD vote for? No? Is he in an open primary state?
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Duke Igthorn posted:Dude they're your parents and you live with them: register Republican, agree with whatever they say, and vote however you want. Don't be a Freeper and have family trouble over politics. Freeper alienation comes from an inability to not talk about really toxic politics, even when it's a complete non-sequitur. Register however you want. Just don't be a poo poo about it/bring it up all the time.
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Jun 15, 2015 21:25
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Duke Igthorn posted:So uh...I shouldn't vote for Hillary Liberal Logic...any uh...any word on who I SHOULD vote for? No? Bernie. I mean, isn't that kind of obvious?
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Jun 15, 2015 21:30
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Remember how they were pushing Scott Walker crazy hard a few weeks ago? That bandwagon sure broke down fast.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:19
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Julio Cruz posted:Remember how they were pushing Scott Walker crazy hard a few weeks ago? That bandwagon sure broke down fast. What happened? I didn't hear of any like, massive career-ending scandal involving him, and it's not like the GoP won't push a personality-deficient rich white dude as their choice.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:What happened? I didn't hear of any like, massive career-ending scandal involving him, and it's not like the GoP won't push a personality-deficient rich white dude as their choice. There are so many people with skin in the game now it's hard to focus on any one person. Last I heard the candidate and likely candidate list was over 20 white guys, 2 hispanic guys, a negro, an Indian, and a woman. Much like the breakdown of their constituency. 
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Jun 15, 2015 22:57
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I'd say they saw sense, but since then they seem to have switched to Ted Cruz, soooo........
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Jun 15, 2015 23:09
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I hope the Republican presidential primary goes just like 2012: massive amount of support for crazy candidates that swells and quickly collapses, each candidate crazier than the previously popular one, till they settle for the "electable" person who then loses.
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cheerfullydrab posted:I hope the Republican presidential primary goes just like 2012: massive amount of support for crazy candidates that swells and quickly collapses, each candidate crazier than the previously popular one, till they settle for the "electable" person who then loses. I am worried that Jeb Bush might beat Hillary just because the sheer amount of lies the GOP has thrown at Clinton seem to finally be working at damaging her popularity. So I hope Cruz gets the nomination so Clinton can smash him. (I'd prefer if Bernie Sanders got the Dem nomination but that's not likely)
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Jun 16, 2015 01:52
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Jun 16, 2015 02:50
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Zeitgueist posted:Tea party facebook friend having a banner day: WHERE WERE THE PROTESTS WHEN THE PERPETRATORS WERE CAUGHT AND THEIR GUILT WAS ASSURED BASED ON A MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE? HUH??? Jesus christ, these idiots don't even know what the gently caress the word protest means.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:What happened? I didn't hear of any like, massive career-ending scandal involving him, and it's not like the GoP won't push a personality-deficient rich white dude as their choice. People heard about him, thought they had a winner, then saw him.
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Jun 16, 2015 11:43
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Coffee And Pie posted:Christ. The DNC likes to send out a bazillion emails and oline newsletters, but in general you should be fine.
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Jun 16, 2015 14:48
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Jun 16, 2015 14:48
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No matter how many times the pictures and tags on that image are changed, the "Sooo," at the end is my stable rock of smugness.
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Jun 16, 2015 14:56
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Looks like a good opening to ask about their opinions on tort reform, what with medical malpractice being such a horrifically-prevalent thing and all.
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Jun 16, 2015 15:20
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:The 195 Thousand figure is from a 2004 study by Healthgrades a private company that rates hospitals. We had a huge public health problem. We did a lot of research, developed programs and increased education. Over time the problem got fixed. Let's do that with gun violence!
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Note first that an error does not indicate that it went to court, or that a payment was made, or anything like that. That's just the deaths from medical errors (which is actually around the right number, strangely enough). Malpractice suits are less common, and many don't go anywhere. However, I don't know how deaths due to medical errors are at all connected to a piece of legislation passed a few years ago when the best data we have relies on studies done prior to the passage of the ACA. Of course, I'm stupid, and medical errors never happened prior to the ACA. Here's the study I'm familiar with.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Note first that an error does not indicate that it went to court, or that a payment was made, or anything like that. That's just the deaths from medical errors (which is actually around the right number, strangely enough). Malpractice suits are less common, and many don't go anywhere. Is that number accurate? My research shows much smaller numbers. Edit: Dammit you're some sort of mind reader.
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What amuses me is that the author sorta blames the American health system for the problem.quote:At the national level, our country is distinguished for its patchwork of medical care subsystems that can require patients to bounce around in a complex maze of providers as they seek effective and affordable care. Because of increased production demands, providers may be expected to give care in suboptimal working conditions, with decreased staff, and a shortage of physicians, which leads to fatigue and burnout. It should be no surprise that PAEs that harm patients are frighteningly common in this highly technical, rapidly changing, and poorly integrated industry. The picture is further complicated by a lack of transparency and limited accountability for errors that harm patients. THANKS OBAMA. Wait what?
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Wait, where are they getting 323 gun deaths from? I just looked up the numbers from 2013 and there are 505 firearm deaths from accidental discharge alone. Homicides are 11,208 and suicides are 21,175. So they are mistating the number of gun deaths by a factor of 10. Did they go through and pull out numbers just for when someone intentionally killed someone with an AR-15 or something?
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Ashcans posted:Wait, where are they getting 323 gun deaths from? I just looked up the numbers from 2013 and there are 505 firearm deaths from accidental discharge alone. Homicides are 11,208 and suicides are 21,175. So they are mistating the number of gun deaths by a factor of 10. Did they go through and pull out numbers just for when someone intentionally killed someone with an AR-15 or something? It's been a while since I looked it up, but I think that number is just murders using rifles, and doesn't include pistols or other guns.
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Ashcans posted:Wait, where are they getting 323 gun deaths from? I just looked up the numbers from 2013 and there are 505 firearm deaths from accidental discharge alone. Homicides are 11,208 and suicides are 21,175. So they are mistating the number of gun deaths by a factor of 10. Did they go through and pull out numbers just for when someone intentionally killed someone with an AR-15 or something? they're just taking all deaths from rifles (assuming you will interpret that as all guns) and comparing it to all deaths by blunt objects and all deaths by stabbing/cutting objects the number of rifles used in crimes and violence is pretty small, which is why they're completely ignoring handguns
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https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8 That's where the numbers come from, IIRC.
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I sort of get why they talk about rifles, they're often a focus in gun control discussions because of the way they're used in mass murders.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I sort of get why they talk about rifles, they're often a focus in gun control discussions because of the way they're used in mass murders.
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Tibeerius posted:You're giving the authors way too much credit. There's a reason why they constantly use pictures of rifles instead of the word "rifle" in these images, and it's not because they're trying to make a nuanced point about gun violence. poo poo, I just noticed that. I could have sworn that it said rifle. That's super deceptive.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:40
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That Trump announcement. What a time to be alive!
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Jun 16, 2015 20:07
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Grimdude posted:That Trump announcement. What a time to be alive! I wonder how many more times he can force himself into the public sphere before everybody loses interest?
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Jun 16, 2015 20:11
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A Bad King posted:I wonder how many more times he can force himself into the public sphere before everybody loses interest? He's managed to keep at it, on-and-off, for around 4 decades now. People never seem to fully lose interest.
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e_angst posted:He's managed to keep at it, on-and-off, for around 4 decades now. People never seem to fully lose interest. "Make America Gooder Again" is his campaign slogan. jfc...
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A Bad King posted:"Make America Gooder Again" is his campaign slogan. jfc... Maybe he needs to spend all of his money (2 or 3 times I guess) to qualify for his even more massive inheritance?
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