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HELLFISH88 posted:If I convert to red team and buy whatever the hell AMD is launching tomorrow will my fancy 4k gsync monitor be uselss/limited by pairing it will AMD drivers and poo poo? Which 4K gsync monitor do you have? Do you like it? Gsync won't work with AMD cards though, no.
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I ended up with this acer after some research, alas I have not had a chance to use it however as I have been away on business. that and I still need a card strong enough to run it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009658 Any opinions? I'm quite excited but I guess AMD is out of the question now because its to late to return then monitor lol
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HELLFISH88 posted:and yet if I'm not impressed I really hope Nvidia drops that water cooled Titan X Ultra they have hinted at. What is this monstrosity and will it beat a 980 Ti hybrid just get a 980 Ti hybrid, if you don't have a Titan X already just know that you're paying a few hundred extra USD for 6 extra GB of completely unusable GDDR5 memory that you can swing around like an e-penis
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Jun 16, 2015 00:26
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HELLFISH88 posted:I ended up with this acer after some research, alas I have not had a chance to use it however as I have been away on business. that and I still need a card strong enough to run it. I think I'm settling towards going large and getting a 34" rather than one of the G-Sync 27" ones, so I'm having a serious look at the AOC U3477PQU. I know it's AOC and all, but I haven't come across much adverse about it aside from the usual IPS bleeding issues, but apparently it's got the same panel as the LG 34UM95-P which is the other one I've been eyeing off. Lack of curve might be an issue, but it's about AUD300 more for the the curved ones.
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http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-ultra-liquid-cooled-edition-works/ I'm leaning towards the Titan X because I'm wanting to SLI come late november when I can afford to buy another one. This is of course all in the name of future proofing which actually sounds quite ironic given what people are expecting for 2016. Curved monitors really tempted me but I think I will wait a few years for a nice curved 8k. Surley that will be a thing come 2017.
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DaveSauce posted:Is it LCD or LED? It shows up as LCD on Amazon, but the Newegg listing shows "LED Backlit." I'm confused: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009626 LED is the backlight technology used. It means it uses LEDs to illuminate the screen instead of CCFL tubes. The LCD layer itself is unchanged. And as someone who has used both the U2412M and QNIX/X-STAR displays, I would strongly recommend the latter, though I would personally go for the standard grade model instead of off-grade or perfect pixel. I know I couldn't tolerate light spots or red lines on black screens, even at $210. Coming from a Dell 2007WFP with an S-PVA panel, I tried upgrading to a U2412M and was a bit underwhelmed. The colors were washed out and the screen dimmed heavily when viewed as little as 45 degrees off center. When I tried an X-STAR 27", everything about it was just better. It had better color saturation, a much finer anti-glare filter, and better viewing angle. I've tried lots of different monitors, and honestly, I've had better luck with the Korean imports than I've had with any name brand. Whenever I've had to deal with pixel defects, dust, backlight bleed, or white uniformity issues, it's usually been brands sold domestically. Zorilla fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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Jun 16, 2015 00:54
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HELLFISH88 posted:http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-ultra-liquid-cooled-edition-works/ http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_G1_Gaming/30.html I mean, if you want to set money on fire, that's OK, but if you're looking at an 8k monitor in a couple of years time there will probably be better cards with the memory you'll need for such. (AMD might even be back in the game by then.)
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Jun 16, 2015 01:11
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By the time 8k monitors are out you'll have different GPUs anyway, if you really want to go Titan X then go ahead but don't fool yourself into thinking it's going to be worth a poo poo in a year and a half compared to the shiny new stuff.
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The Deadly Hume posted:Gigabyte have just announced a G1 version of the GTX980ti which outperforms the Titan X That's actually really compelling. You might be swaying me. So let me just take this all the way for a moment then: You guys are saying I DON"T need all that extra memory for 4k? Evan at Ultra?
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Jun 16, 2015 01:31
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Zorilla posted:LED is the backlight technology used. It means it uses LEDs to illuminate the screen instead of CCFL tubes. The LCD layer itself is unchanged. Well that's where I'm confused...I thought an LED display was exactly that: an LCD that uses LEDs for the backlight. Is there more to it?
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HELLFISH88 posted:That's actually really compelling. You might be swaying me. So let me just take this all the way for a moment then: You guys are saying I DON"T need all that extra memory for 4k? Evan at Ultra? With a single card you'll probably run out of oomph before you run out of memory, for the lifespan of the card. I'd be a bit more comfortable with 8GB for SLI Ultra 4K, if the rig will hold you over for say 3 years I question whether 6GB will remain fully future-proof for that duration of time. Of course if DX12 takes off and you can combine those memory sizes - 6+6GB is more than enough.
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KakerMix posted:By the time 8k monitors are out you'll have different GPUs anyway, if you really want to go Titan X then go ahead but don't fool yourself into thinking it's going to be worth a poo poo in a year and a half compared to the shiny new stuff. Yeah that's true, Pascal is probably gonna stomp Maxwell at the high end. Assuming you can afford it - if AMD's been crushed into the mud then there's no incentive for cut-throat pricing like the 980 Ti, and cut-downs usually launch ~6 months after the full products launch. So if you would buy a Titan P for $1250 in a year you should probably hold back. That's pretty much reading tea leaves though - if you want to buy a card and play games why would you wait a year to do it? That's forever in computer years, and 2016's GPUs will incorporate just as much planned obsolescence as 2015's (unless of course you pony up $1500 for the Titan P Ti Ultra edition with the GPA400 mega chip and 32GB of HBM). NVIDIA in particular is bad about that, they fine-tune their lineups to nudge nerds into buying halo products and keep the rest on the upgrade treadmill. AMD on the other hand just relabels the same products over and over again. I don't get the fear of depreciation people have at the high end though - the original GTX Titan is still pulling in 50% of its launch price, used, 2.25 years after its release. The R9 290X launched at $650, and is now selling new for $270. That's a steeper drop on a percentage basis. The 7850 launched at $250 and is down below $100 now. My impression is that nobody wants the lower-tier garbage that wasn't impressive even on launch, whereas a halo card stays pretty performant for a couple generations, and you get people wanting to SLI instead of upgrading, and so on, so there's overall more demand and lower supply. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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Jun 16, 2015 02:13
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DaveSauce posted:Well that's where I'm confused...I thought an LED display was exactly that: an LCD that uses LEDs for the backlight. Is there more to it? No, that's exactly it. That post was in response to you asking whether something was LED or LCD, as if they were separate. While there are actual LED displays they're usually in the category we'd call "Jumbotron" so for normal people LED is a subset of LCD indicating the backlight technology in use.
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Where are actual LED (i.e. not led backlit) displays, by the way? I'd think they would be available by now. vvvv: Yeah like that, but with really really small LEDs 
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Jun 16, 2015 05:14
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Truga posted:Where are actual LED (i.e. not led backlit) displays, by the way? I'd think they would be available by now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKPRTjCqYnI
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Jun 16, 2015 06:30
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Truga posted:Where are actual LED (i.e. not led backlit) displays, by the way? I'd think they would be available by now. OLED. They're available on some smartphones, have the best contrast I've seen on any display (as black is off with no backlighting) but they have low response times, and screen burn. That doesn't bother me too much, but they have some kinks to work out before they break out into the mainstream.
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Wasabi the J posted:That doesn't bother me too much, but they have some kinks to work out before they break out into the mainstream. I know. I have a psvita with an oled screen, and it's really good. But I haven't seen any desktop monitors with this kind of tech yet, and I'm wondering why. They've been pretty mainstream on phones and tablets (like samsung's super amoled), and the resolution is definitely up there, but nobody seems to bother with anything bigger than 10 inches still 
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Jun 16, 2015 08:21
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Truga posted:I know. I have a psvita with an oled screen, and it's really good. http://goo.gl/KnMkOU There is one OLED monitor you can buy, but OLEDs suffer from burn-in, so they'll never be good options as monitors; they make really darling TV's though, as did plasmas (which I still use for my home theater), as long as you're not the kind to leave your Blu-ray menus on for 3 hours at a time. The black levels are always the best on OLED. I can't wait to get my hands on a larger model when they come down in price. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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Jun 16, 2015 11:15
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Oh poo poo, they do exist now. Nice. But yeah, prices are pretty high. Only a matter of time I guess before issues get resolved though. CRTs also burnt in for a while, in the final years of CRT, it was impossible to do it.
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Jun 16, 2015 11:18
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Truga posted:Oh poo poo, they do exist now. Nice. OLEDs also suffer from the different colors aging at different rates, so a screen could have lots of color distortion years later.
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wolrah posted:No, that's exactly it. That post was in response to you asking whether something was LED or LCD, as if they were separate. While there are actual LED displays they're usually in the category we'd call "Jumbotron" so for normal people LED is a subset of LCD indicating the backlight technology in use. Right...it's just that the Amazon listing showed it as LCD instead of LED, when it is in fact an LED because it's LED-backlit. I'm over it! Back to things: Now I'm looking at this guy: Asus PB278Q Anyone have any thoughts? Seems very well reviewed, and while it's more than I want to spend, it seems to be the cheapest option at that level of size/quality/features. I know I know, it's not a goddamn QNIX. Let's pretend those don't exist and that I want to get a monitor with a solid warranty/return policy and a good build quality.
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I need a monitor for CS:GO so 120/144Hz and 24" are priorities. Was thinking of an ASUS VG248QE but I don't care for the 3D thing or built in speakers. Are there any alternatives for a just a panel where I could save some money?
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DaveSauce posted:Right...it's just that the Amazon listing showed it as LCD instead of LED, when it is in fact an LED because it's LED-backlit. I'm over it! That's because it is LCD. You seem to think that LCD = CCFL-backlit LCD, which is incorrect.
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DaveSauce posted:Right...it's just that the Amazon listing showed it as LCD instead of LED, when it is in fact an LED because it's LED-backlit. I'm over it! My friend, you should just buy a qnix 
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Wasabi the J posted:OLEDs also suffer from the different colors aging at different rates, so a screen could have lots of color distortion years later. Yeah, this is why I never get excited about OLED.
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HalloKitty posted:Yeah, this is why I never get excited about OLED. I'm super excited about them, but they're not "there" yet. I think until another great tech comes along OLED is gonna be to LCD what LCD was to CRT.
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I thought that's why LG was going with a solution like using a single color element and just putting filters on it to adjust color output accordingly? Or maybe I'm just imagining poo poo!
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So what's the preferred way to do three monitors now? I was thinking a 4K 27-28" central monitor centrally, with two vertical on either side, in a "horizontal" to match the 2160 of the 4k vertical, if that makes any sense.
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That won't work out too well, because the physical dimensions just don't match. I think most people just go for 3 horizontal monitors all in a row. At work I use a single 27" 4k flanked by two 24" Dell 2412s, with one in portrait mode. I like it quite a bit. One thing to keep in mind is due to aspect ratios, smaller 16:10 monitors still end up being a pretty similar size to larger 16:9 screens.  The annoying thing about using a 1920 * 1200 monitor horizontally next to the 4k screen is that the area your mouse cursor can use to pass to the far left screen is so small. Another popular choice for triple screens that do match up is a single 30" 2560 * 1600 flanked by two 1600 * 1200 screens in portrait mode, but that's getting quite hard to find.
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Wasabi the J posted:OLEDs also suffer from the different colors aging at different rates, so a screen could have lots of color distortion years later. this is not an issue with newer style OLEDs where white light is phosphoresced into colors, so there's only one type of LED
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Mazz posted:Depends on what you play. If you're twitch gaming the input lag can start to get noticeable (like most IPS with 6+ ms response). I'll play BF4, War Thunder and a bunch of slower games like Skyrim and assorted RTS just fine. I am probably being a broken record but I am a crazy counterstrike person and I think the dvi only version w/less lag is perfectly fine for like 99.9% of people.
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Wowporn posted:I am probably being a broken record but I am a crazy counterstrike person and I think the dvi only version w/less lag is perfectly fine for like 99.9% of people. So you don't notice any ghosting or whatever?
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Looselybased posted:So you don't notice any ghosting or whatever? I haven't, although I have the Shimian rather than the QNIX and while the specs are the same I'm not sure if that's something that would be differenct or not. I know I've heard people say the screen sometimes gets darker if you overclock a qnix too far but I've never heard anyone have issues with ghosting before.
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Looselybased posted:So you don't notice any ghosting or whatever? I've been using a FIRST FSM-270YG for the last 18 months or so, but have also used an X-STAR monitor, and neither of them had any problems with ghosting, trails, or pixel overshoot. They're probably the best behaved IPS displays I've tried.
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Deviant posted:So what's the preferred way to do three monitors now? I was thinking a 4K 27-28" central monitor centrally, with two vertical on either side, in a "horizontal" to match the 2160 of the 4k vertical, if that makes any sense. Ideally you'd just want 3 of the biggest/highest resolution displays you can find and are supported by your system, whether that's 3 x 27" WQHD, 3 x 30" WQXGA, 3 x 32" 4K, or whatever. In the real world it comes down to how much desk space you have, what size monitors you already have, etc. I recently upgraded from a 27" WQHD flanked by 2 24" WUXGAs all in landscape, to a 40" 4K flanked by the 2 24" WUXGAs in portrait. If space wasn't the limiting factor I would've actually preferred to have a 34" 21:9 3440 x 1440 flanked by 2 27" WQHDs instead, but this setup actually reduced the amount of horizontal space required.
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I'd imagine burn in would still be a fairly serious issue when trying to use OLEDs as a PC display. You can see it on phones that are running the store demo reels (the one vodafone uses is particularly bad) and I don't imagine a desktop PC would fare any better.
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dissss posted:I'd imagine burn in would still be a fairly serious issue when trying to use OLEDs as a PC display. I've always wanted someone to make a 3d maze update.
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Im trying to figure out what my monitor is so I can install the correct drivers and possibly get a higher refresh rate out of it. Its a korean ips I got off ebay. The logo says "shimian" but when I checked my ebay purchase history it says, " X-Star DP2710LED." Did the seller change the listing after i bought mine or something? I measured it diagonally not including the bezel and its definitely 30" with a 2560x1600 resolution. What the hell do i have? Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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I hope the price on those 27" G-Sync 144hz screens drops once some other manufacturers get into the business. I'm looking at upgrading in Q4, and right now dropping half my budget on a screen isn't going to cut it, especially since the other half is going to a 980ti. 
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Fauxtool posted:Im trying to figure out what my monitor is so I can install the correct drivers and possibly get a higher refresh rate out of it. Is it not printed on the sticker on the back?
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