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Super Space Jam 64
Jan 6, 2010

Yet another violation of regulation 1910 subpart D.
I missed most of the conferences but I guess some things were announced that were cool.

What I really want to hear about, though, is how terrible Ubisoft's conference was. Surely there's at least one good gif of a bunch of suits awkwardly flailing about to a dancing game or mindlessly shaking wiimotes?

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ballistics statistics
Nov 27, 2003

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:


No Mods No Masters posted:

Mods? Mods??? Mods? ?

Yeah sorry, not sure where exactly the :filez: line is.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Junkie Disease posted:

"Raven Blade topping Shenmue" is the craziest thing in that post.
I hated Shenmue but Nintendo did a Dennis Dyak cleaning on Retro when they bought them.
There was like 4 titles that Retro was half baking before the cleaning and Raven's blade might have been the worst one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGwcNdUozlY


It probably wouldn't be topping in terms of actual quality, just in terms of sheer "holy poo poo whatttttt?" factor.

Also, I forgot my super special One Thing that would absolutely kill at the conference: Nintendo buying up most of Konami's franchises. Obviously they wouldn't take Metal Gear, but imagine Nintendo in control of Castlevania, Bomberman, Contra, Gradius and Goemon.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Maybe this should be in future OPs or whatever but here's a complete list of E3 announcements so far.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Policenaut posted:

Remasters. Remasters remasters remasters? Remasters! Prototype 2 remaster. Remaster!

I will buy this because I want a new Prototype game.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
All that ubisoft's conference did was just reassert a single fact that has held true through the ages.

"gently caress the French"

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Super Space Jam 64 posted:

I missed most of the conferences but I guess some things were announced that were cool.

What I really want to hear about, though, is how terrible Ubisoft's conference was. Surely there's at least one good gif of a bunch of suits awkwardly flailing about to a dancing game or mindlessly shaking wiimotes?

Ubisoft announced a bunch of poo poo, but they also announced a new South Park game. I loved the first one, and the trailer even made fun of themselves saying the combat sucked so they've already won me over.

If you're not a fan of south park then all of Ubisoft's conference was poo poo

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Macaluso posted:

Ubisoft announced a bunch of poo poo, but they also announced a new South Park game. I loved the first one, and the trailer even made fun of themselves saying the combat sucked so they've already won me over.

If you're not a fan of south park then all of Ubisoft's conference was poo poo

I'm so excited to really dig deep into The Fractured But Whole. I'm gonna get up in there and not stop until I finish.

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

I don't care about South Park either way but I felt pretty bad that they jumped ship from Obsidian, who by all accounts suffered quite a lot to make the first game as well received as it was.

At least they have a pillars expansion to announce tomorrow :unsmith:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Wait Obsidian isn't doing the South Park sequel? Thats dumb, who is?

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Wait Obsidian isn't doing the South Park sequel? Thats dumb, who is?

It's in-house at Ubi now. Pretty hosed yeah.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Yoshifan823 posted:

I'm so excited to really dig deep into The Fractured But Whole. I'm gonna get up in there and not stop until I finish.

Well, that's it. Bad puns are a finite resource and this one's been run dry. Not sure what Ubi's gonna do to sustain the game through the rest of the development cycle, probably drill Fractured but Whole desperately trying to work out a few more uses of the joke.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
somebody mentioned a third release of the first pokemon games and i hope thats just trash speculation

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


today's E3 summary

Fojar38 posted:

this is the best loving thing

Fulchrum posted:

What the gently caress am I looking at?

Generic Monk posted:

ewwwww what is this


eeeeeeewwwwwwww

the wildest rear end posted:

kicktarter trailer at e3

this is the future

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

No Mods No Masters posted:

It's in-house at Ubi now. Pretty hosed yeah.

was there a reason why?

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



gently caress me that Sony conference. After MS had nothing to show, EA had nothing but two ME teasers and Star Wars and Ubisoft literally put me to sleep, I was worried.

Sony though. gently caress. My only concern was the lack of solid release information for basically everything they showed. I was expecting Uncharted to get announced for November at the very least.

gently caress, though.

Alan Smithee posted:

was there a reason why?

Every publisher fucks Obsidian eventually. I assume Ubi only worked with them in the first place because they'd already done all the work with THQ. They didn't actively choose them to make the game or anything. They probably ditched them the second they could.

And I will definitely not buy the game because of that. Cunts.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side
No Dark Cloud announcement :( But plenty of other good stuff.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
No Zelda is being shown at E3.

Sony wins by default of just announcing everything else except Half Life 3 and Beyond Good and Evil 2.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Yoshifan823 posted:

Are they though? I mean, what do we have on the horizon so far?

Wii U:
Zelda (has probably been in the cards for a long time now)
Star Fox (probably Miyamoto's team immediately after Pikmin 3 got done, if it's out this year)
Mario Maker
Mario & Sonic 2016
More Smash/Kart/Splatoon DLC?

3DS:
Animal Crossing Happy Home
Chibi-Robo
Fire Emblem Next

We've had a bunch of games out over the last 8 months, including Kirby, Captain Toad, Mario Party, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Yoshi (the latter two in Japan), Smash, Puzzle/Dragons, Majora's Mask 3D, Xenoblade 3D, and Codename STEAM. There's a lot of unused manpower there, and I don't know where it's at, especially if Mario Maker is as close to finished as it looked on Sunday.

Monolith, Sora and Good Feel are done with their big projects, Retro's is still unannounced, and a lot of the midsize projects have come out. I'm gonna do a big ol' effort post to speculate exactly what we might see tomorrow.

First, take a look at Nintendo Entertainment and Development, the largest grouping of developers in Nintendo, split into different teams that have different responsibilities. This is where Miyamoto works.

The teams at the Kyoto EAD Office:
SDG1's last project was Mario Kart 8, which came out last year, and most certainly doesn't require a whole team to be working on DLC. They're probably working on something new, they're responsible for Mario Kart and Nintendogs. Something new that is Nintendogs-esque is possible.
SDG2's projects are Splatoon and Animal Crossing Happy Home, and there's probably some greater Animal Crossing thing that they're working on, whether for Wii U or more for 3DS. They're also responsible for Wii Sports, Nintendo Land, and their kin.
SDG3's wrapped up in the new Zelda game.
SDG4's got Mario Maker almost there, and did NSMBU/NSLBU and Pikmin 3, which means they're probably a pretty big team, potentially with something else in the bag.
SDG5's working on Star Fox, and potentially something with the other two games they demoed last year, if they didn't get folded into Star Fox.

The teams at the Tokyo EAD office:
TokyoSDG1's done with the Majora update, and the only other things they've done over the last few years are the OoT update, some app-esque things for the Wii U/3DS (pictures with Mario, Wii U Tours) and Four Swords Anniversary Edition. These are the guys who made Super Mario Galaxy and DK Jungle Beat as their first projects, so they could have something big up their sleeves.
TokyoSDG2 did Captain Toad, the NES Remix games, and 3D World, with nothing new in the pike, they could have a project in the works too.

Next, you have Nintendo Software Planning and Development, where they do more experimental games, weird little side projects and other assorted odds and ends, along with assisting outside devs with their games. Yoshio Sakamoto (he of Metroid fame) oversees this division.

The SPD teams:
SPD1: Team WarioWare/Rhythm Heaven, currently working on something called Nikki's Travel Quiz, nothing else known. Potentially a new Rhythm Heaven for Wii U? (fun fact: they co-produced Metroid Other M with Team Ninja!)
SPD2: These guys team up with 2nd/3rd party Japanese developers that are working on Nintendo properties, they've had their hands in a lot of stuff, from Xenoblade X and Codename STEAM to Pokemon, Wonderful 101, Sin and Punishment 2 and Devil's Third. They are probably getting farmed out to whoever is working on projects outside of Nintendo Home Base.
SPD3: The same, but for teams a little closer to home. They co-produced Retro's games, Lego City Undercover, Paper Mario Sticker Star, and Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon, among others. Their last project was DK Tropical Freeze, but they're almost certainly working on whatever Retro has in the barrel.
SPD4: Mario side projects galore, these guys co-developed Mario Party 8/9 and Island Tour, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Wii Party U and the Mario & Luigi games. Again, nothing in the immediate future.
SDD: Software Development and Design, the guys responsible for Brain Age, Band Brothers, and most recently, Rusty's Real Deal Baseball. Nothing in the immediate future here either.

These are the main Japanese teams. Under the main Nintendo umbrella, you also have Nintendo Software Technology, who is Nintendo's North American development arm, a mashup of Japanese workers transferred over and recruits from various US developers. All they've done as of late is the Mario vs. Donkey Kong games and Crosswords, but at one point were involved with Wave Race and 1080 for Gamecube and Metroid Prime Hunters. Tipping Stars is out now, so there's probably some Mario v DK game in the works here.

Once you finish with those teams, you've got the five external teams who are essentially second party devs.
1-Up: Formerly Brownie Brown, these guys have some Square experience, and helped develop Mother 3, Magical Starsign, and more recently, 3D Land/World and Treasure Tracker. Nothing major in the works.
Monolith: Done with Xenoblade X, started up on Project X Zone 2, wouldn't surprise me if some other project has started, though it's probably still a bit away from being shown off.
Intelligent Systems: working on two different Fire Emblem games, but also responsible for the Paper Mario series. In my dream world, they've got another Paper Mario in the cards, but they seem to be a busy team as it is.
Ncube: Seem to have taken over the Mario Party games from SPD4, having worked on 9/10. If I had to guess, I'd say working on 11 as we speak, but not gonna be shown off this year.
Retro: The biggest question mark of the day. We know they're working on something, and logic says its big coming out party is tomorrow. Is it Diddy Kong? Metroid Prime 4? Something completely off the wall? Raven Blade out of loving nowhere to top Shenmue 3 and Last Guardian? I have no loving clue.

Now, once you get out of the "we are owned by Nintendo" crowd, you've got the guys who have teamed up with Nintendo in the past. I'm not gonna list them all, because it's a long loving list, but I'll highlight some who might have something we see tomorrow, or have something currently in the works for Nintendo.

Alphadream: Primary dev of Mario & Luigi games (and Hamtaro!). Another one could be in development, it's been almost two years since Dream Team.
Bandai Namco: Doing Pokken Tournament, we could see news on a US port today, or a bit more on Project Treasure (but hopefully not because gently caress F2P poo poo)
Camelot: Team responsible for the primary development of Golden Sun, Mario Tennis and Mario Golf. Nothing on deck now, and Mario Golf World Tour came out over a year ago now.
Creatures: Pokemon side projects galore (oh, and Earthbound), they haven't had anything come out since the Pokepark games on the Wii, which was 5 years ago. I dunno what's up with them.
Game Freak: The other big question: do we see Pokemon Red/Green 20th Anniversary Edition? X2/Y2/Z? A port of Tembo the Badass Elephant?
Grezzo: Primary devs for the Zelda 3DS remasters, now that Majora's Mask is out, are they gonna get a project of their very own? A former Square-Enix employee is the head...
HAL Labs: probably the busiest team on this list in recent years, they did both Smash games, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse/Kirby Triple Deluxe, and Box Boy. I'll be surprised to see them pop up.
Jupiter: If they are not chained in a basement somewhere authoring Picross puzzles, Nintendo is loving up severely.
Koei Tecmo: Hyrule Warriors 3DS.
Kuju Entertainment: Art Academy.
Level-5: Yo-Kai Watch and its sequel, as well as Fantasy Life 2. Potentially some Layton? They've been moving toward mobile recently, so I guess no.
Mistwalker: The guys behind The Last Story have a mobile game that might come to portable systems. Probably not an E3 announcement.
Monster Games: An intriguing group, developed the DKCR and Xenoblade ports, and helped Retro with DKTF. Could they have something in the Digital Event tomorrow?
Next Level: Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon and Super Mario Strikers, as well as Punch Out. I'd put good money on seeing a Mario Sports game in some form tomorrow from them, complete with online.
Paon: DK side games (King of Swing, Barrel Blast, Jungle Climber) and the last Glory of Heracles game.
Platinum: Working on Scalebound and Transformers Devastation, but has expressed interest in working with Nintendo further. I suspect we don't see anything from them.
Sega: Working on the Olympic spinoff, along with their own poo poo. Currently in a free-fall, probably not working on anything, though they did work on F-Zero AX/GX...
skip LTD: Not on the wikipedia page, but I'm 99% sure they're responsible for the new Chibi Robo game, because they've done all the previous ones.
Square Enix: A very long shot, especially given all they're working on right now, but on the other hand, their conference is almost immediately following Nintendo's...
Syn Sophia: Currently overseeing the Style Savvy games, formerly Aki (yes that Aki, the wrestling game guys). Nothing in the conference, but I think it's funny that the team behind the N64 WWF/WCW games is now making Style Savvy.
Tose: formerly developed Super Princess Peach, Stafy, and the Game & Watch Galleries, as well as porting some stuff to PSP and RE Revelations to consoles, helped development for Splatoon. Could have something, nothing major though.
Treasure: Formerly of Wario World, Sin and Punishment, and some loving hard shmups, currently making a robot game for 3DS, could get a port over. Gaist?
Vanpool: Guys behind Dillon's Rolling Western, I'd bet they've got something at the show tomorrow.


That's a lot of words, but what does it all mean? After this research, here's what I think we see tomorrow:

For sure:
Mentions of Yoshi's Wooly World, Mario Maker, Xenoblade and Chibi-Robo. Nothing major, because they've had a lot of air time already (and half of them are out in JP already), and will probably have plenty of Treehouse time devoted to them. Mario & Sonic will show up in a montage somewhere, but god willing no time will be spent watching it until the Treehouse.
Star Fox is probably the leadoff title, because everyone knows it's coming. Most likely will be primarily air battles, with some elements of the other two games Miyamoto's team showed off last year.
Hyrule Warriors 3DS reveal (even though it's already been revealed)
Art Academy hype
DLC and Amiibo updates, starring Splatoon and Animal Crossing Happy House. Clearly something Sunshine related is up with Splatoon, and Mario Maker is getting an Amiibo
Requisite Indie Jerking Off

Probable:
Retro's title, whatever that may be. Diddy Kong is the popular rumor, Metroid Prime 4 is a common guess as well, but it's been long enough that I think it's something completely out of nowhere, like a new IP. Whatever it is, it will probably be there.
Time spent with the new Fire Emblem games. More SMT/FE than the 3DS one, but not a whole lot, because they're not as aimed at the US market.
More Mario Kart DLC. They want this game to live forever, and if they add in another couple cups and some characters/carts, that's another year of playability right there, especially with 200CC.
Next Level Mario Sports Game, with online play inspired by Splatoon. They've been quiet long enough, and there are plenty of rumors that something is up at Next Level, this is probably the safest bet for a surprise game.
Vanpool eShop game: I don't think they'll have another Dillon's game, but they'll probably have something. Not a full game, probably, but another major eShop title.
Pokken Tournament Wii U port, with character announcements. They've been quiet about a home version, but this would be prime time to pull it out.
Pokemon Red/Green 20th Anniversary. Makes too much sense, and I will spend mad money to play the first Pokemon game again.
More Wii VC title announcements. The stuff currently out in Japan, plus maybe a couple surprises. Same price deal as SMG2, MPT and Punch-Out.

Possible: (aka: where it gets fun)
New Mario 3D platformer. I'm talking a Galaxy-esque game, maybe even Super Mario Universe or something.
More Wii Sports Club games. I want Swordfighting, but I'll take some of the other Resort games.
Pikmin 3DS game. Just a hunch on this one.
New Nintendogs like simulator. See above.
Metroid for 3DS, not named Metroid Dread. We're probably not getting Prime 4, but Metroid's been dormant long enough.
New Mario & Luigi game.
New Smash DLC. It might be too soon, but they want a steady stream of stuff.
New Nintendo Character game from 1Up, Monster, Paon, Grezzo, and/or Camelot

Potential: (aka: probably not, but the inspiration is there)
New Paper Mario
New Sega Developed F-Zero. (they could use the help)
Mother 3 on VC. We did get Earthbound Beginnings, after all.
New Platinum title. They're awful busy, but even a hype trailer would be a positive.
Full Wii U Animal Crossing
Metroid Prime 4
Square/Nintendo collaboration
Pokemon Z
New installments of: Advance Wars, Kid Icarus, 3DS Zelda, Mario/Wii Party, Mario Tennis, Punch Out, Balloon Fight, Mach Rider (lol), Luigi's Mansion, Kirby, any other Nintendo property.

My personal dream:
Picross 3DS
Gamecube games on VC

lol

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

So many dreams to crush right there.

Cubivore_
Nov 6, 2013

i don't even know if nintendo can announce anything at this point that will beat ps4's presentation. cubivore 2, maybe?

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

ThaGrandCow posted:

Yeah sorry, not sure where exactly the :filez: line is.

i think you can talk about what people were able to do in terms of :filez: but you can't actively link to them or tell people where to find them like "you just go to https://www.freegames420.com and they're all there!"

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!

Mercurochrome posted:

i don't even know if nintendo can announce anything at this point that will beat ps4's presentation. cubivore 2, maybe?

They could announce games that are actually coming out.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Mercury Crusader posted:

They could announce games that are actually coming out.

Xenoblade Chronicles X isn't enough for an entire conference.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



All Nintendo can really do is make Star Fox really good, announce a new Metroid or proper new 3D Mario or show a new IP that looks interesting.

Any one of those and it'll be all right. More than one and I'll crack a smile.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
They're just going to show you the new amiibos and DLC along with Xenoblade and people will struggle to try and say how that was way better than showing The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy 7 and Shenmue 3

Cubivore_
Nov 6, 2013

It's Mario's 30th anniversary so I feel like they're going to announce something besides Super Mario Maker.

Cubivore_ fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Jun 16, 2015

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Mercurochrome posted:

It's Mario's 30th anniversary so I feel like they're going to announce something besides Super Mario Maker.

Oh there'll be a NES Mario Amiibo for sure.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
Waluigi will finally get a starring role

Gorgolflox
Apr 2, 2009

Gun Saliva
Nintendo is going to announce a remake of Zelda 1 that will be released on Feb 21st 2016 to commemorate Zelda's 30th anniversary. Also Mother 3 on the eShop now, Punch--U-Out!!, Paper Mario U, Pokemon Stadium Snap, Super Luigi Galaxy, and Metroid Prime 4, 5, AND 6.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
Waluigi Maker


It;s just a small plastic cube that makes fart noises when you press the button on it

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Harlock posted:

Who is ready for Wii U Animal Crossing tomorrow with Amiibo support

Animal Crossing owns

my predictions for new stuff in the digital event:

star fox: title

animal crossing u

diddy kong something (Country or Racing 2)

Maybe, maybe metroid.

new pokemon game

Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Jun 16, 2015

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

ethanol posted:

there's no way it will look this good

Did you play Shadowfall on PS4 (same dev)? For a couple of years out this doesn't look particularly unbelievable, though I'm assuming it's going to run at like 20~25 FPS to make it work.

The VA might not be final, I remember a lot of earlier KZ installment demos having similarly bad stuff. At least I hope because this is pretty lifeless.

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


40k left until Shenmue is founded

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I still don't understand the point of the kickstarter. 2 million dollars is a joke and can only have been the initial goal in order to drive up hype for stretch goals. The end total will be closer to 10 million, guaranteed. But how can 10 million dollars make a AAA game?

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Shimrra Jamaane posted:

But how can 10 million dollars make a AAA game?

There's no way in hell that it'll be a AAA game. AAA games barely exist any more.

It'll be a mid-budget game, it'll probably make about $6-8 million. It might pull some investor funding too.

Fajita Fiesta
Dec 15, 2013
It won't but it'll attract potential bigger investors, a lot of companies these days use kickstarter as a way of proving interest in a product before trying to get proper big time investement.

The End
Apr 16, 2007

You're welcome.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I still don't understand the point of the kickstarter. 2 million dollars is a joke and can only have been the initial goal in order to drive up hype for stretch goals. The end total will be closer to 10 million, guaranteed. But how can 10 million dollars make a AAA game?

Basically it's to establish to venture capitalists that there is demand for the product, and to pay for preproduction.

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Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
It's more a case evidence to bring to investors. "We already scrounged up this much to make a game. That means this many people are interested enough to take a risk. Will you not further fund our investments?"

And then they do, because publishers are stupid.

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