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Wow, really sucks there is only 30 minutes of content in FO4 since that's all they showed. What's even worse is half of that is just some guy talking to an audience. This game will suck.
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chitoryu12 posted:Yeah, it seems like a lot of the "purists" have forgotten exactly what the base of the game is like. New Vegas is sort of the "true sequel" to Fallout 2, but its sheer amount of choice and the bare-bones backstory of the Courier is an outlier in the Fallout series. The other games don't literally put you into a wedlock though, I reckon that is where people jump ship for several reasons. Possibly religious ones.
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Yaos posted:Fallout 4 is now a linear cinematic FPS set in the 80's. Awesome, maybe it'll have good writing then. 
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Jun 16, 2015 19:27
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Yaos posted:Fallout 4 is now a linear cinematic FPS set in the 80's. It's not that bad considering the 80s were loving crazy for the 50s and 60s.
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Jun 16, 2015 19:31
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Mordaedil posted:The other games don't literally put you into a wedlock though, I reckon that is where people jump ship for several reasons. Possibly religious ones. They should probably grow up and stop being babies, then.
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Jun 16, 2015 19:31
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Fallout 4 probably won't let you kill every named character and will be a lesser game for it.
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chitoryu12 posted:They should probably grow up and stop being babies, then. It's just going to equate a lost sale, ain't much I can do about that. And there's probably a fair bunch of them, calling them babies isn't going to sway them to either side.
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Lord Lambeth posted:Fallout 4 probably won't let you kill every named character and will be a lesser game for it.
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Jun 16, 2015 19:37
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J-Spot posted:I'm guessing it won't let you do a pacifist run either. *plunges tanto into abdomen to commit ritual seppuku*
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Jun 16, 2015 19:39
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Walrus Pete posted:I'm with you. The worst part is that so many people do it, though. IIRC, BioWare once revealed that something crazy like 70% of all players played the default male Shepard as the soldier class (AKA the one without fun powers) in Mass Effect. It's baffling. It wasn't baffling; it was baffling (if hilarious) that goon/goon-type folks were baffled by it. It's the same reason why the Warrior in Diablo 2 is the one that defeats Diablo, whereas the Mage and Archer/Thief become bad guys: the player is the Combat Guy, the other characters are the Magic Guys and the Thief Guys.
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Jun 16, 2015 19:43
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You'll be able to kill named characters in Fallout: Newer Orleans.
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J-Spot posted:I'm guessing it won't let you do a pacifist run either. Player choice is very important.
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MisterBibs posted:It wasn't baffling; it was baffling (if hilarious) that goon/goon-type folks were baffled by it. It's the same reason why the Warrior in Diablo 2 is the one that defeats Diablo, whereas the Mage and Archer/Thief become bad guys: the player is the Combat Guy, the other characters are the Magic Guys and the Thief Guys. This! Seriously, the Soldier was a great class in Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3
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MisterBibs posted:It wasn't baffling; it was baffling (if hilarious) that goon/goon-type folks were baffled by it. It's the same reason why the Warrior in Diablo 2 is the one that defeats Diablo, whereas the Mage and Archer/Thief become bad guys: the player is the Combat Guy, the other characters are the Magic Guys and the Thief Guys. Yeah it shouldn't be a surprise most people prefer the default. A majority of people also rolled human in GW2.
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Mordaedil posted:The other games don't literally put you into a wedlock though, I reckon that is where people jump ship for several reasons. Possibly religious ones. Massachusetts was the first state in the nation to legalize gay marriage, and by God we will be the first in the nation to legalize gay robot marriage 
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Walrus Pete posted:I'm with you. The worst part is that so many people do it, though. IIRC, BioWare once revealed that something crazy like 70% of all players played the default male Shepard as the soldier class (AKA the one without fun powers) in Mass Effect. It's baffling. Except that IRL I have a CHR of 10 and an INT of 10 so I why wouldn't I build myself in the game? The only real problem is that Bethesda still hasn't implemented a facegen that can really capture a handsome face, so I end up being a really charming potato. A small price to pay, though...
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MisterBibs posted:It wasn't baffling; it was baffling (if hilarious) that goon/goon-type folks were baffled by it. It's the same reason why the Warrior in Diablo 2 is the one that defeats Diablo, whereas the Mage and Archer/Thief become bad guys: the player is the Combat Guy, the other characters are the Magic Guys and the Thief Guys. The baffling thing was the (probably marketing mandated) decision to make the Soldier class the default build since ME1's shooter gameplay was really, really bad and the Soldier had nothing else to do but shoot stuff.
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2house2fly posted:Please, 99% of the posts in this thread are people gushing about how amazing the game looks and ripping their wallets open to pre order the $130 collector's edition with plastic toy. Even a cursory glance of the thread by anyone who can read demonstrates that this isn't even remotely approaching a resemblance of the truth. Why bother making bullshit like this up?
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What the hell else would you make a default build? Also Soldier could wear the heaviest armor (that looked cool) and had a power that made you almost invincible with Master Immunity + Adrenaline Burst
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I remember loads of people bitching about how in ME2 the game not giving you enough ammo and I'm all like "play Soldier he doesn't have ammo problems" and dudes was mad that I suggested they play soldier.
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Mordaedil posted:It's just going to equate a lost sale, ain't much I can do about that. And there's probably a fair bunch of them, calling them babies isn't going to sway them to either side. If by 'fair bunch' you mean a very small but vocal minority, then yes, you are correct.
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I suppose one nice thing about mod support is that, even if they were stupid enough to implement TES-style skill advancement, there will be a mod to replace it at least two weeks after the game comes out. I mean, I'll try it but I seriously doubt I'll prefer it to a leveling system; I'm not inherently opposed to the idea but if it's anything like Skyrim leveling up Repair and Science will just require a lot of pointless grinding (see Smithing in Skyrim, for ex).
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Mordaedil posted:It's just going to equate a lost sale, ain't much I can do about that. And there's probably a fair bunch of them, calling them babies isn't going to sway them to either side. Lol
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DoctorStrangelove posted:I remember loads of people bitching about how in ME2 the game not giving you enough ammo and I'm all like "play Soldier he doesn't have ammo problems" and dudes was mad that I suggested they play soldier.
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chitoryu12 posted:Yeah, it seems like a lot of the "purists" have forgotten exactly what the base of the game is like. New Vegas is sort of the "true sequel" to Fallout 2, but its sheer amount of choice and the bare-bones backstory of the Courier is an outlier in the Fallout series. i feel like a lot of people are forgetting that the company that made FO3 and is working on FO4 is not the same people who made FO1 & FO2. F04 is going to be more like Skyrim and every other generic AAA game released for a modern system because that is what the company that is making FO4 does. getting mad or surprised or upset or anything other than just accepting whatever news comes down the pipe is a futile exercise in impotent rage. if you loved FO1 & FO2 then you got New Vegas as your eventual follow-up. there might not ever be another FO game made by (some) of the people who worked on the first two ever again, but even if there was it's not going to be F04. likewise, the people working on F04 might take very tertiary learnings from what NV did well, but don't expect F04 to continue in the direction that NV went because the company that is making F04 has a fundamentally different philosophy for what kind of game they want to make
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homeless poster posted:i feel like a lot of people are forgetting that the company that made FO3 and is working on FO4 is not the same people who made FO1 & FO2. F04 is going to be more like Skyrim and every other generic AAA game released for a modern system because that is what the company that is making FO4 does. getting mad or surprised or upset or anything other than just accepting whatever news comes down the pipe is a futile exercise in impotent rage. if you loved FO1 & FO2 then you got New Vegas as your eventual follow-up. there might not ever be another FO game made by (some) of the people who worked on the first two ever again, but even if there was it's not going to be F04. likewise, the people working on F04 might take very tertiary learnings from what NV did well, but don't expect F04 to continue in the direction that NV went because the company that is making F04 has a fundamentally different philosophy for what kind of game they want to make This is really it (although I disagree with the "generic AAA" snipe). If you enjoyed Fallout 3 and Skyrim (I did), then Fallout 4 is probably going to be up your alley. If you hate Bethesda games, you probably will not like Fallout 4, as it is developed by Bethesda games, although the need to express that repeatedly baffles me a little.
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From other thread:Verisimilidude posted:So despite being an otherwise lukewarm experience Fallout Shelter is one of the creepiest games I've ever played. Women are essentially relegated to being baby-making machines for my highest-statted male characters (I assume they transfer stats, but that might not be the case). They are on an endless cycle of flirt, get pregnant, give birth, repeat. 
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:From other thread: ngl I sort of see where he's coming from. The game does feel really sinister, which I suppose is somewhat appropriate.
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I really love RPG stuff and spellcasting but I'll be very honest, I played the soldier too. I messed with face customization and stuff, but I definitely did not bother with other classes in the mass effect series. First one aside, that game is barely the kind of RPG where it's fun to play spellcasters and my party members had plenty of neat gimmicks to exploit during fights.
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HA, New Vegas being SIMILAR to Fallout 2, that's a laugh.
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homeless poster posted:i feel like a lot of people are forgetting that the company that made FO3 and is working on FO4 is not the same people who made FO1 & FO2. F04 is going to be more like Skyrim and every other generic AAA game released for a modern system because that is what the company that is making FO4 does. getting mad or surprised or upset or anything other than just accepting whatever news comes down the pipe is a futile exercise in impotent rage. if you loved FO1 & FO2 then you got New Vegas as your eventual follow-up. there might not ever be another FO game made by (some) of the people who worked on the first two ever again, but even if there was it's not going to be F04. likewise, the people working on F04 might take very tertiary learnings from what NV did well, but don't expect F04 to continue in the direction that NV went because the company that is making F04 has a fundamentally different philosophy for what kind of game they want to make aduhhhhhhh uhhhhh guhhhhh bllllbbbluhhh
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dangerdoom volvo posted:aduhhhhhhh uhhhhh guhhhhh bllllbbbluhhh Fallout 4: aduhhhhhhh uhhhhh guhhhhh bllllbbbluhhh
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Fallout 4: aduhhhhhhh uhhhhh guhhhhh bllllbbbluhhh
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Bholder posted:HA, New Vegas being SIMILAR to Fallout 2, that's a laugh. You're right, it's more similar to the first fallout in that it's more grounded.
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Kurtofan posted:You're right, it's more similar to the first fallout in that it's more grounded.  THIS GUY
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not this poo poo again ahhhhhhhh
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Read the NMA review of Fallout 3, and it's surprisingly reasonable. Not sure what the reviewer is doing mingling with a bunch of retards who can't stop bragging about how superior they are to all the plebs who liked any of the games past the first, but I liked it.
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