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Leperflesh posted:Bones III announced for July 7! My reaction: Fauxtool posted:as someone who bought bones 1 and 2 but hasnt painted any of them, im ready for bones 3 Also, at least I can sorta budget for a big spend in August when the campaign ends.
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I'll see what really shiny big stuff is in it. The tiamat is deeply tempting.
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Jun 4, 2015 17:56
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I've been having fun.      I'm probably going to get someone to split my Bones 3 with me locally, though.
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Jun 6, 2015 01:48
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I honestly wouldn't have thought of doing the cultists with white robes, but that's a really nice look. Might need to steal that, Iris. Partly related, I'm curious how the Legendary Encounters KS is going to go. I know most of Reaper's fanbase isn't going to go in for prepaints, but I know that there are other people who can't be arsed to paint. It'll be interesting to see.
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Jun 6, 2015 04:08
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Bones 3 has been pushed back to 11am EST July 7, in order to make more sculpts in advance. I for one welcome any and all delays NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jun 6, 2015 |
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Jun 6, 2015 18:37
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NTRabbit posted:I for one welcome any and all delays So does my bank account.
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Jun 6, 2015 19:57
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I've been so frustrated working on bones lately. A lot of them are pretty good. The detail is a little soft, but whatever for a $1 a figure or however much it worked out to last kickstarter. Some of them though the detail is just obliterated. It's some Raiders of the Lost Ark poo poo. They are still fine for $1 I guess, but they're not even good for practice.
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Jun 6, 2015 20:23
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Consider it good practice for painting in detail that isn't there. Don't you ever plan to paint a sigil on a pauldron?
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Jun 6, 2015 20:30
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That's what I ended up doing. I mean, I'm not saying my Merisiel figure is Golden Demon material, but painting on lighting to simulate a sculpted nose did make her pretty serviceable. Edit: JackMann posted:I honestly wouldn't have thought of doing the cultists with white robes, but that's a really nice look. Might need to steal that, Iris.    
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Jun 6, 2015 20:34
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Paolomania posted:Consider it good practice for painting in detail that isn't there. Don't you ever plan to paint a sigil on a pauldron? There's a pretty big difference between painting detail that isn't there, and trying to paint detail over Freddy Krueger texture. I didn't really get them for practice though. I've got a bin of metal minis for that already. I got them so I could spend an hour relaxing while throwing a table top paint job on a figure I didn't care about. And they've been abysmal in that role, because they are the opposite of relaxing for me. Gareth Gobulcoque fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jun 6, 2015 |
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Jun 6, 2015 20:40
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krushgroove posted:Also, at least I can sorta budget for a big spend in August when the campaign ends. They timed it to end right around GenCon. Weak. (My wallet is weak, I mean.)
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Jun 8, 2015 17:42
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Reaper's newsletter posted:Bones III Kickstarter
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Jun 16, 2015 21:16
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Reaper realized that people were buying the Bones miniatures and never painting them, so they have innovated a solution!
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Jun 16, 2015 21:18
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLC820wvnxM but the other way around
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Jun 16, 2015 21:34
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Getting increasingly irritated with this company. The constant Kickstarters are eating up all their production capacity, to the point that my LGS's supplier hasn't been able to purchase any new Reaper stock for almost three months at this point. What's the point of expanding the company if you can't loving stock normal product?
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Jun 23, 2015 22:12
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Is this a bad time to mention that Reaperbryan just posted an image for the core 30 of the upcoming kickstarter (on their forums)? I would post a link but I am on my phone.
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Jun 23, 2015 22:26
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An Angry Bug posted:Getting increasingly irritated with this company. The constant Kickstarters are eating up all their production capacity, to the point that my LGS's supplier hasn't been able to purchase any new Reaper stock for almost three months at this point. What's the point of expanding the company if you can't loving stock normal product? Where do you live? Even out in the middle of bumblefuck midwest my LGS is able to keep a healthy stock of Bones 1 and 2 miniatures. Are you sure your supplier isn't one of those wierdos who is blackballing Reaper for having a kickstarter in the first place?
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Jun 23, 2015 22:40
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Earthorn posted:Is this a bad time to mention that Reaperbryan just posted an image for the core 30 of the upcoming kickstarter (on their forums)? I live to serve:  Gotta love dat rear end.
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Jun 23, 2015 22:42
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I want that DogAn Angry Bug posted:Getting increasingly irritated with this company. The constant Kickstarters are eating up all their production capacity, to the point that my LGS's supplier hasn't been able to purchase any new Reaper stock for almost three months at this point. What's the point of expanding the company if you can't loving stock normal product? The bones sent out for kickstarter rewards are entirely made in china, while I'm pretty sure metal minis are made in Reaper HQ, and retail bones are made in Reaper HQ with machines the kickstarter allowed them to buy. There should be no relation between the KS and stock levels. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 22:47
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Reaper is notorious among retailers for being consistently unable to fill orders. http://blackdiamondgames.blogspot.com/search?q=reaper e. A lot of those posts about reaper go back to 2008 and 2012 and stuff, but I was specifically thinking of this recent post, which is a report from the GAMA convention (a convention for game retailers) in March: quote:The publisher seminars were fine, with a couple of interesting juxtapositions. On one hand, we had Reaper Miniatures stand in front of a room full of retailers, asking where the hell their product was in the distribution channels, and answering "Don't know." Everything is cool on our end. Don't know. "Don't know" comes off as ignorant or deceptive, so it wasn't surprising it kicked off a retailer discussion of whether Reaper was still right for game stores, or necessary, or even relevant with their direct to consumers Kickstarter model. That's coming from a guy I've personally talked to who loves Reaper's products and has a deep nostalgia for them going back decades, because of the way they've historically supported the D&D gaming hobby with individual minis for heroes, monsters, villains, villagers, etc. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 23:00
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I can see the argument that, even if the actual supply lines don't cross, it creates a conflict of interest of sorts for Reaper to be offering massive amounts of product directly to customers and that this in turn makes it smell especially bad when (if in fact) they can't be arsed to resupply the distributors in a timely fashion. On the other hand, the kickstarters have a legitimate and probably overall beneficial niche to occupy overall. Were LGSes going to front Reaper a collective $4 million to tool up new Bones, let alone do it again? I'm guessing probably not. I wish there was a way to somehow integrate Kickstarter with retailers. Something like you pledge to a Kickstarter "through" your LGS and they (and you) get a little added perk, so nobody felt cut out.
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Jun 23, 2015 23:54
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Yeah. And bear in mind the direct-to-consumer sales also cut out the distributor. So there's an unspoken implication that perhaps the supply issues are partially due to the distributors punishing Reaper by refusing to move product efficiently. Which is the sort of behavior major game distributors have been doing often and repeatedly for decades, by the way. Middlemen do not like to be cut out of the loop. Reaper telling its angry retailers to please order through the distributor instead of direct is basically them pleading with their own customers to placate the 500lb gorilla so it will stop beating them up. And yet distributors are still essential. Game stores can't possibly manage ordering product directly from a hundred different publishers every week, dealing with a hundred different shipments, tracking a hundred different invoices and payment terms, remitting payment to a hundred different payment processors, etc. etc. Only really big outfits like Games Workshop can get away with refusing to work with third party distributors, because a game store owner carrying GW products is probably filling at least 10% or as much as 24% of their racks with just GW products. Reaper hasn't got that clout. They offer direct-order as a convenience for retailers and end-customers, but that represents ongoing antagonism of their distributors.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:11
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Terrible Opinions posted:Where do you live? Even out in the middle of bumblefuck midwest my LGS is able to keep a healthy stock of Bones 1 and 2 miniatures. Are you sure your supplier isn't one of those wierdos who is blackballing Reaper for having a kickstarter in the first place? Leperflesh posted:[Proof]
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An Angry Bug posted:In their home state of Texas, specifically Austin, the massive city capital that by all means should be one of their biggest focuses. Given everything Leperflesh said I'm guessing it's the distributor for my area being less vindictive than the distributor for your area.
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Jun 24, 2015 16:01
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That's a possibility too. I'll try to find out which distributor my LGS uses and see if they have a customer service contact.
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Jun 24, 2015 16:09
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I saw some pretty cool Wyrmgear 40k conversions, aside from him and that Gorgon are there any large mechanical-looking Bones kits that would make great Daemon Engines?
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moths posted:I saw some pretty cool Wyrmgear 40k conversions, aside from him and that Gorgon are there any large mechanical-looking Bones kits that would make great Daemon Engines? Not really. Mashaaf could work well as Nurgle-aligned Maulerfiend though (or as a giant chaos spawn).
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Jun 24, 2015 17:36
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah. And bear in mind the direct-to-consumer sales also cut out the distributor. So there's an unspoken implication that perhaps the supply issues are partially due to the distributors punishing Reaper by refusing to move product efficiently. Which is the sort of behavior major game distributors have been doing often and repeatedly for decades, by the way. Are gaming distributors as vertically stacked as comic distributors? Diamond was famous for causing the cancellations if comics they didnt like by refusing to carry them.
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Jun 24, 2015 17:55
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I know there have been some issues since the first Kickstarter. A local shop tried to order some Reaper minis, were told by the distributor that Reaper didn't do metal anymore. They ended up having to order from Reaper directly.
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Jun 24, 2015 18:07
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I'm sure this is pie-in-the-sky poo poo but just to hear it from someone knowledgeable about how business works: is there some reason why some of the bigger-by-elfgame-standards companies don't band together and form some sort of distribution co-op? Seems like having a distribution network with which you weren't in a literal adversarial relationship would pay off in the long run, in headache reduction if nothing else.
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Jun 24, 2015 22:43
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Some have, back in the 90's Wizards of the Coast had an unprecedented European distribution wing. It's the reason Hasbro bought them. As it is now, it's just not economically feasible. Distribution companies require a large amount of inventory space, employees overhead and, to start, a large number of boots on the ground in order to get their name out there to stores. The modest amount of sales of the product don't lend themselves to the 'just in time' shipping methods that are the industry standard. Most companies also seem to be run by old grogs that can get kind of adversarial with other companies. It's a small business world and just about everyone knows everyone else and all the drama that gets associated with that.
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Slimnoid posted:Not really. Mashaaf could work well as Nurgle-aligned Maulerfiend though (or as a giant chaos spawn). This is a shame. Mashaaf is pretty  though.If Reaper did a Kickstarter that was nothing but an IP-skirting poor man's Forgeworld and terrain, they would probably break records Kickstarter didn't know they had.
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Jun 25, 2015 00:06
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Ashcans posted:I live to serve: I will probably sit this one out.
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Jun 25, 2015 03:30
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Paolomania posted:I will probably sit this one out. You say that now, but once a pile of poo poo gets added on to that, you'll be back.
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So far for what I've seen I'm interested in some of the larger figures, but I have enough small ones for my purposes after the first two Bones Kickstarters.
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Jun 25, 2015 04:29
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I'll probably do the exact same thing I did for the last one, which is to pick up the addons for a big gribbly or some cool themed stuff that catches my eye, whilst not giving a poo poo about the three dozen generic adventurer sculpts. e: seriously, aren't adventurers the worst thing to be filling a package deal with, since the character minis you want are likely going to be pretty specific (i.e., a gnome wizard only does you any good if you have one) and not change all that often? If I'm going to buy anything in lots of two dozen, it's going to be generic dungeon mooks. JerryLee fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Jun 25, 2015 05:15
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Protip: Just token pledge a buck if you're on the fence or temporarily strapped. I did that and was able to add on as much poo poo as I wanted at kickstarter prices like in April of this year right before the closed things out by paying the difference. I mean, obviously if everyone did that it would screw the whole thing up, so you know, kickstarter prisoner's dilemma.
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Jun 25, 2015 05:28
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Yeah, probably just getting some stuff for myself, maybe a few extra sets of the main set to sell later. I took a bath on DDS and khanjira, since they posted estimated prices early on that were vastly different from the final (I think khanjira was estimated to be 80-90 and DDS was supposedly 90-120 early on). I made back about half of what I put in, I will probably make a decent profit after selling everything, but a lot of it's just languishing even after offering 25% off.
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Paolomania posted:I will probably sit this one out. It will be the same as last time. Skip the core set, grab some add-ons get out with 20-30 models for around $45, which isn't bad considering how big some of them are.
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