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Dareon posted:Well, I'm signed up for random berserker
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You have to be able to equip the rod to use it as an item.
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Jun 16, 2015 16:05
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Kyrosiris posted:Get to level 16 or so and you should have just enough damage to do about half of her HP (325) and then, in one go, do it again (so as not to summon Forza at all). Yessssssss, did it at level 9: bought 99 potions and waited out Magissa's MP, then just traded shots with Forza (two potions for a regular hit and three for a tackle) until he went down.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:06
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OzFactor posted:Yessssssss, did it at level 9: bought 99 potions and waited out Magissa's MP, then just traded shots with Forza (two potions for a regular hit and three for a tackle) until he went down. Yeah, if you're not interested in leveling, it's plenty doable earlier. 16 is where you can guarantee no Forza though.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:13
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Okay so I moved cross-state and have been doing really boring things like buying lawn mowers and unpacking boxes and such but I sort of have free time now and decided to register! Hoping to do multiple runs so the first one will just be normal. Also holy poo poo at the donations recently 
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Jun 16, 2015 18:32
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I am the join of this. Regular run, no major changes. Intend to make a Fartz
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Jun 16, 2015 19:25
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Kemix posted:I am the join of this. Regular run, no major changes. Intend to make a Fartz Welcome, fellow Fartzian.
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Jun 16, 2015 19:46
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Pieuvre posted:Welcome, fellow Fartzian.
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Jun 16, 2015 19:49
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Well, in celebration of that awesome donation I added berserker risk to my run. This'll be my second fiesta and first time with risk. Wonder if I can beat it with berserkers without going insane?
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Jun 16, 2015 20:03
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Jack Van Burace posted:Well, in celebration of that awesome donation I added berserker risk to my run. This'll be my second fiesta and first time with risk. Wonder if I can beat it with berserkers without going insane? I did a run with 1 and it was okay. Two is going to be interesting but I'm Chaos so it depends on what the other jobs are. Like, if any job is chemist, you're done and fine. Ninja with berserkers is pretty awesome. Anything that can break rods is not gonna get stuck. Even Dancer offers a decent opportunity because if you can control someone you can lamp one part and 50 percent chicken blade sword dance for modest damage while the berserkers wear ribbons and look pretty. If you're 4 berserkers or one of the Chaos configurations which forces you to 4 berserker the sandworm, just job fair. Better to job fair and do more runs than try to berserker sandworm AND cannon.
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Jun 17, 2015 01:35
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4 or even 3 Zerker with a bad job on Sandworm is going to be straight fun. Team Fart.
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Jun 17, 2015 02:02
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So after some research it *seems* like Blue Mage is sort of the objective "best" job for the wind crystal (correct me if I'm wrong) but what are the reliable was to confuse enemies into casting positive blue magics on you?
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Jun 17, 2015 02:43
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White Mage (and Red Mage) have access to Confuse magic, and Beastmaster has Control. Otherwise you're left with a Dancer trying to dance Tempting Tango or waiting until Moogle Village to get the Dancing Dagger.
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Jun 17, 2015 02:54
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Dropped a small donation this way as well. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of berserkers.
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Jun 17, 2015 02:58
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blakelmenakle posted:White Mage (and Red Mage) have access to Confuse magic, and Beastmaster has Control. Otherwise you're left with a Dancer trying to dance Tempting Tango or waiting until Moogle Village to get the Dancing Dagger. Bard has a song that confuses every enemy.
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Jun 17, 2015 03:08
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ultrafilter posted:Bard has a song that confuses every enemy. I knew I was forgetting something.
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Jun 17, 2015 03:15
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Just as a benchmark, what's a reasonable level range for beating Neo Exdeath/also killing the superbosses? I've been running around with a practice run, having not played this game in years, and my characters are currently around level 40 before heading into the Rift. The lineup I rolled has been Thief/Mystic Knight/Beastmaster/Dragoon, and at least thus far I've been able to kill everything in the optional dungeons.
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NGDBSS posted:Just as a benchmark, what's a reasonable level range for beating Neo Exdeath/also killing the superbosses? I've been running around with a practice run, having not played this game in years, and my characters are currently around level 40 before heading into the Rift. The lineup I rolled has been Thief/Mystic Knight/Beastmaster/Dragoon, and at least thus far I've been able to kill everything in the optional dungeons. Low 30s, specially with spellblade powered chicken mugging and beastmaster shenanigans in that team. Some teams might need to be in the 40s for Almagest purposes.
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Jun 17, 2015 06:00
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NGDBSS posted:Just as a benchmark, what's a reasonable level range for beating Neo Exdeath/also killing the superbosses? I've been running around with a practice run, having not played this game in years, and my characters are currently around level 40 before heading into the Rift. The lineup I rolled has been Thief/Mystic Knight/Beastmaster/Dragoon, and at least thus far I've been able to kill everything in the optional dungeons. 40-50 is optimal, but I think 30 is about the minimum in terms of average play or tanking Almagests.
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NGDBSS posted:Just as a benchmark, what's a reasonable level range for beating Neo Exdeath/also killing the superbosses? I've been running around with a practice run, having not played this game in years, and my characters are currently around level 40 before heading into the Rift. The lineup I rolled has been Thief/Mystic Knight/Beastmaster/Dragoon, and at least thus far I've been able to kill everything in the optional dungeons. For what it's worth, that team will probably actually have difficulty with Omega and Shinryu. You'd basically need to rely on Thundaga Spellblade Jumping for your damage output (to avoid his 95% Evade), and in the meantime you're getting ruined by his entire AI loop (which sucks rear end). Shinryu will just be throwing repetitions at it, since you'd ideally want only one person reflected (probably the Dragoon?) and you need to hope that your released Mammon hits them with Berserk which reflects to Shinryu.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:14
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Kyrosiris posted:For what it's worth, that team will probably actually have difficulty with Omega and Shinryu. You'd basically need to rely on Thundaga Spellblade Jumping for your damage output (to avoid his 95% Evade), and in the meantime you're getting ruined by his entire AI loop (which sucks rear end). He has a beastmaster so Omega shouldn't be the slightest bit of a problem while he thundaga chicken mugs him.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:20
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dis astranagant posted:He has a beastmaster so Omega shouldn't be the slightest bit of a problem while he thundaga chicken mugs him. ... Note to self, no more Fiesta thread posting before shower/coffee.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:25
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Out of interest, is the GBA bonus content possible in a Fiesta run?
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Jun 17, 2015 16:26
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Ilyich posted:Out of interest, is the GBA bonus content possible in a Fiesta run? Yeah, it's been done, but you pretty much need Thief/Summoner/Beastmaster/Chemist. It can be done with weaker options (I think someone did it with Samurai on Earth? which sounds nutso to me), but Thief/Beastmaster are mandatory (due to the Sealed Temple's gimmicks).
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Jun 17, 2015 16:32
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dis astranagant posted:He has a beastmaster so Omega shouldn't be the slightest bit of a problem while he thundaga chicken mugs him. NGDBSS fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 16:44
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NGDBSS posted:What's this involve, anyway? :eyebrow: I'm not finding any ability I can use that would inflict Stop other than Electromagnetic Field (on a creature I don't have access to any more) or Tame/Calm (which only works on Creatures). Calm works on omega. Three people rotating calm is enough to fully stop him.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:45
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NGDBSS posted:What's this involve, anyway? :eyebrow: I'm not finding any ability I can use that would inflict Stop other than Electromagnetic Field (on a creature I don't have access to any more) or Tame/Calm (which only works on Creatures). Actually, that's wholly incorrect (unless you're playing on the phone versions). Calm works on everything but Creatures, due to a bug.  Calm-locking Omega is one of the most common ways to cheese him and I'm going to blame a lack of caffeine for me not saying so originally.
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Wow, even in the GBA version? That seems like a bit of an oversight.
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Yup. Honestly, most of the SNES version's bugs weren't fixed. Knives not called the Chicken Knife still have the wonky one-byte-instead-of-two Agility multiplier (though this is probably for balance), Power Drink doesn't work except for the Goblin Punch attack value of a weapon, etc.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:48
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NGDBSS posted:Wow, even in the GBA version? That seems like a bit of an oversight. it's not worth it on anything othr than omega and maybe some of the postgame dungeon bosses if it works on them (no idea)
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Jun 17, 2015 16:50
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Fungah! posted:it's not worth it on anything othr than omega and maybe some of the postgame dungeon bosses if it works on them (no idea) You can also do it on every piece of Neo Exdeath aside from the Almagest piece!
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Jun 17, 2015 16:51
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Kyrosiris posted:You can also do it on every piece of Neo Exdeath aside from the Almagest piece! yeah but that's two or three people who aren't doing anything to lock down a single part. easier to just use them to burn him down
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Jun 17, 2015 16:55
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Didn't the calm bug only appear in GBA? I know it doesn't work in SNES.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:59
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Fungah! posted:yeah but that's two or three people who aren't doing anything to lock down a single part. easier to just use them to burn him down Oh hell, you don't even need to "lock it down", per se, but you can really delay Grand Crosses from coming out if you have one person throw a Calm at it every other action or so.
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Kyrosiris posted:Oh hell, you don't even need to "lock it down", per se, but you can really delay Grand Crosses from coming out if you have one person throw a Calm at it every other action or so. yeah, that makes sense. it'd also slow down the last part if you're having trouble killing it once it goes SSJ. still think you;'d be better off trying to burn it down though
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Fungah! posted:yeah, that makes sense. it'd also slow down the last part if you're having trouble killing it once it goes SSJ. still think you;'d be better off trying to burn it down though Yeah, if you gently caress up and let a part go bonkers, that's when I'd actually suggest locking that poo poo down and praying, because loving yikes does it get scary in panic mode.
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Poque posted:Didn't the calm bug only appear in GBA? I know it doesn't work in SNES. It totally does work on SNES, I used it on my very first run ever to beat Omega. 
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Jun 17, 2015 17:32
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BlondRobin posted:It totally does work on SNES, I used it on my very first run ever to beat Omega. Hmm, all it did was miss for me last year. Not sure what's going on there.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:38
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Going to have to get in this in spirit with Final Fantasy Tactics. I did a random job run in March and it was a hoot.
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Poque posted:Hmm, all it did was miss for me last year. Not sure what's going on there. All I can say is that I was using the unpatched (Japanese) version, on an emulator. Could one of those two things be responsible? EDIT: For what it's worth, that team was Black Mage/Berserker/Beastmaster/Dancer. I remember trying to either get the Black Mage to reflect Thundagas or the Dancer to Sword Dance Chicken Knife, and having to stop because two people with hermes was just barely not enough to keep him locked down at all times. I remember it because I did the same thing last year, but with Bard's stop, and remembered doing it with the Beastmaster at the time. BlondRobin fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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