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Gyges posted:How the hell is W's favorability that high? Even with massive "Who the gently caress is that?" responses, a net of +75+ seems impossible. He was just the governor of Texas who you might also know from Baseball. Probably massive confusion with his father.
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fade5 posted:So yeah, Donald Trump is a loving idiot, news at 11. I would legit rather see Trump as POTUS than Bush, Walker, and their ilk.
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Also W promised to give everyone in the nation thousands of dollars in the form of tax rebates. Gore was going to do some gay poo poo like repay some of the debt and invest in infrastructure and make social security solvent.
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Gyges posted:How the hell is W's favorability that high? Even with massive "Who the gently caress is that?" responses, a net of +75+ seems impossible. He was just the governor of Texas who you might also know from Baseball. FMguru fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Probably massive confusion with his father.
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Just watched the Trump announcement. Amazing! I am dying laughing at the music playing after the announcement line, and his ridiculous hand gesture he used to cut the music afterwards (seriously, I've never asked for a GIF before, but I would love a GIF of that!). And the crazy 3-and-a-half-minute tangent into his wealth is one of the most surreal things I've ever seen in a political speech (maybe Cain's Pokemon line beats it, but that's the only thing I can think of). However, reading some of the comments here, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks Trump may have legs in this primary. I see him as the candidate who would be the most difficult and frustrating person to debate. He is just so shameless in his ability to rant about bullshit. I don't see how you can attack him on any substantive policy. For any given issue he often comes at it from a totally different angle that doesn't seem to have any place on the normal right-left spectrum. The key to fixing the economy is fixing trade deals with China. Is that a right or a left position? He said specifically that he has no intention of cutting Medicare / SS but he will fix it by "taking back the money that is lost". Seems to me, that a lot of these points are things that Republican primary voters will eat up, if Trump can convince them that he knows what he's talking about.
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Colbert already came out with a parody of the Trump announcement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFVC3qYGYiE
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Stereotype posted:Rand Paul has a much better shot than Walker. Rand Paul essentially has a 0% chance. I would bet a good chunk of change that one of Bush, Rubio, or Walker will win the nomination. Kasich as a wildcard I guess.
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From Twitter we have a surprise entry into the campaign!
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If people haven't watched the Trump announcement you really have to because he is amazing. "I would invite Obama to one of my golf courses, they are the best in the world, I really would invite him when he leaves office"
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Raskolnikov38 posted:From Twitter we have a surprise entry into the campaign! as a dog person, I'm not sure I can vote for a cat lover
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Fried Chicken posted:Someone posted a more elegant phrasing of it earlier, but the thing about Trump is all he is really doing is taking the mindless babble you see from your Sunday morning talking heads and rear end in a top hat op-eds, and saying it the way it would be phrased by your usual Jay Leno Jay-walking guy on the street would. It's like a variation on the quote about Buckley being an intellectual by virtue of saying the same thing as Bull Connor but without a southern accent. What is the difference between Trump declaring he has a secret plan to beat ISIS that he won't share but the problem is Obama is too much of a chickenshit to implement it, and Krauthammer saying he has an in depth strategy too long to go into here but the problem is Obama won't LEAD and MAKE HARD CHOICES? What is the difference between Trump's message of "I'm worth 9 billion therefore I am better than you" and David Brooks about how being wealthy is linked to a better cultural morality that provides a better citizen? What is the difference between Trump's most inane nonsensical blather, and anything Tom Friedman says? I've got it: Trump/Friedman 2016.
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I'll believe that's not a toupee, but it has to be some sort of elaborate comb-over. Like he got the RAND corporation to come up with an indestructible comb-over back in nineteen-eighty-gently caress and sees no reason to upgrade
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I've got it: Trump/Friedman 2016. But his hairpiece is already his running mate 
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I found Newt!  
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OctoberBlues posted:Rand Paul essentially has a 0% chance. I would bet a good chunk of change that one of Bush, Rubio, or Walker will win the nomination. Kasich as a wildcard I guess. FWIW, that was Podesta's assumption the last time I saw him speak, so it's the Hillary campaign's working assumption for the time being.
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OctoberBlues posted:Rand Paul essentially has a 0% chance. I would bet a good chunk of change that one of Bush, Rubio, or Walker will win the nomination. Kasich as a wildcard I guess. Nah, Rand and Cruz are both sitting high at like 5-7% chance. Walker, Rubio, and Bush all have serious issues and are pulling from the same pool of voters. Cruz and Rand meanwhile have their own pools of insanity with very little competition. It's almost certainly not going to be enough, but with so many candidates anyone not sharing demographics has a chance to shine. The "establishment" trio needs to Highlander each other while there's still a score of people splitting the crazy vote. Walker himself has a real issue with not melting once the spotlight hits him. He's got to somehow manage to remain the great Conservative Union Killer while not letting anyone realize he's a giant idiot. Though with Trump actually in, everyone gets a bonus to their not sounding like a giant buffoon stats for at least the first debate. It's impossible to sound stupid when Trump is right there talking about how loving classy and spectacular he is.
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http://www.reuters.com/video/2015/06/16/jeb-bush-pope-should-steer-clear-of-clim?videoId=364609585&videoChannel=1003quote:In his first official day on the presidential campaign trail on Tuesday, Republican Jeb Bush, a Catholic, had sharp words on Pope Francis' decision to leap into the climate change debate, saying the pontiff should steer clear of political issues. Francis mentioned the important moral element, though: poor countries, and the poorest of a country, will suffer the most from climate change!
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Jun 17, 2015 04:10
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Remember when Stuart Varney or what's his face from Fox Business protested the pope's words on trickle-down economics? "I go to church for my soul, not to hear about this crap!"
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Right-wingers saying the Pope should stay out of politics is one of the most hypocritical and ridiculous stances they have ever taken on an issue. They never stop sucking off John Paul II for helping Reagan(p.b.u.h) take down the Soviet Union. As well, historically, the papacy has always had a role in politics. Like much of the history of the papacy is dominated by discussions of the church's role in politics all over the world. Their stance on Francis is surprisingly hypocritical and ahistorical even for them. Usually they're a bit wishy-washy, but this is really like they are trying to claim that 2+2 should actually just be 5 since it's always been that way. ErIog fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 04:17
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I hope the Republican Party solves this Crusader Kings 2 style by setting up an Antipope.
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Wish I hadn't been driving all day today, and miss out on the early fun of Trumps yooge announcement. But yeah seriously this poo poo is going to be hilarious.
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Vertical Lime posted:Colbert already came out with a parody of the Trump announcement I like how he drops the voice every so often.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Remember when Stuart Varney or what's his face from Fox Business protested the pope's words on trickle-down economics? "I go to church for my soul, not to hear about this crap!" It's natural to get defensive when spiritual leaders point out that your actions aren't actually supported by your religion. Or, you know, it's natural to be rightfully furious when spiritual leaders opine on things you don't think they should. I mean, it's not like Jesus ever said anything about economics. Except the Parable of the Talents. I like that one.
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ErIog posted:Right-wingers saying the Pope should stay out of politics is one of the most hypocritical and ridiculous stances they have ever taken on an issue. They never stop sucking off John Paul II for helping Reagan(p.b.u.h) take down the Soviet Union. As well, historically, the papacy has always had a role in politics. Like much of the history of the papacy is dominated by discussions of the church's role in politics all over the world. For all the time they spend injecting religion into politics, you'd think they would give the Pope a break.
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Sir Tonk posted:For all the time they spend injecting religion into politics, you'd think they would give the Pope a break. I know the religious right is largely not very Catholic, but still. You'd think they would at least try to pay some kind of lip service in order to not look like evil mustache-twirling assholes, but no, just literally shouting that the Pope, a noted world leader and leader of one of the largest sects of a faith they claim to be a member of, should shut the gently caress up. Right-wingers show more respect for Putin than they do the Pope.
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I have had several people repost Trump's speech video on Facebook. They say that they love his positions and he is what is best for this country. How can business owners be this dumb? This is similar to a group of people who think that their group is better than all the rest so they have to cheerlead for their guy.
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Did the Vatican ever drop the idea of papal infallibility because Francis telling the GOP candidates "actually God says I'm right and you're wrong" would be great.
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Iowa Snow King posted:I wonder what the punishment is for leaking a Papal Bull to the press Probably not excommunication. It's automatic application is more likely for other stuff: quote:Can. 1370 §1. A person who uses physical force against the Roman Pontiff incurs a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See; if he is a cleric, another penalty, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state, can be added according to the gravity of the delict Also, I think watching Trump's whole announcement speech has fried my brain.  Right now, to me, Jon Huntsman looks about as good as FDR.
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William Bear posted:Probably not excommunication. It's automatic application is more likely for other stuff: You never mentioned you had a daughter Arkane.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Did the Vatican ever drop the idea of papal infallibility because Francis telling the GOP candidates "actually God says I'm right and you're wrong" would be great. Papal infallibility pretty much only ever applies when a pope specifically says it applies, it was never an "everything they say" thing. And even if he says it applies, it still only counts as an infallible statement when it explicitly has to do with Church doctrine of faith or morals.
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Tao Jones posted:The Pope? How many divisions does he have? At least one of halberdiers!
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Fried Chicken posted:Yeah and there's a chance Shakira will find me attractive. It ain't gonna happen. Bush is gonna roll out the negative ads in the coming weeks and nuke Scotty doughface and Rubio from orbit God help Bush if he does this while Walker's still the #1 Koch sucker because while his dad and slightly less retarded brother may have been presidents, the Koch brothers have the money to bury them politically. Jeb's biggest danger is himself.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Did the Vatican ever drop the idea of papal infallibility because Francis telling the GOP candidates "actually God says I'm right and you're wrong" would be great. That only applies if the Pope is speaking Ex Cathedra, which has happened about 5 times in history.
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If y'all are familiar with Tigerbeat and visit every day like me, you'll notice that they usually have four 'main' stories at any given time. Right now, they have links to ten in their headline window, and eight of them are about Trump. edit and the linkfest is gone; they tend to rotate a lot; he's currently 2/4 in the headline window
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Zikan posted:I hope the Republican Party solves this Crusader Kings 2 style by setting up an Antipope. Mel Gibson (Columbus I) will be made Antipope in Constantine, Michigan. The Sedevacantists will be pleased. whitey delenda est posted:At least one of halberdiers! That's ceremonial, Archer.
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