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Republican Vampire posted:Yeop. Presumably it's a quick kludge to make up for the removal of old fashioned skill points. Hrm, wow. Unless the perks are great, unless a low int is like -90% exp gain I can't see it being a big focus in a build. Swift Learner perks were never really very good unless you were in some kind of hurry, and now the whole stat is just Swift Learner. You have a game world with infinite XP to draw on.
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chitoryu12 posted:Fallout 4 will only be worthwhile if it totally eliminates the prologue, has a text parser instead of dialogue options, removes all voice acting so NPCs can be asked 50 different really specific questions, and lets plot-important NPCs die and force you to reload a save without warning. And killable children. You put all of those things together and you have my preorder.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:25
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MisterBibs posted:That's the thing, you are. There's a reason why Obsidian took out the "And the Courier left New Vegas" ending. Not to mention, Lonesome Road is specifically about what your character did before the setting of the game. New Vegas never forced you to take the long way, they guided you there. They gave you the tools to break that guided path and if you did not use those tools that is entirely your fault.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:26
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I think we are assuming a lot on how the Perk system is gonna be, which admittedly is Bethesda's fault since they said nothing about it at the showcase. They should really come clear on it these following months so we known it straight.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:26
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Lord Lambeth posted:New Vegas never forced you to take the long way, they guided you there. They gave you the tools to break that guided path and if you did not use those tools that is entirely your fault. Mr Bibs is an exceptional gimmick account but you really shouldn't take him seriously.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:28
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megalodong posted:Mr Bibs is an exceptional gimmick account but you really shouldn't take him seriously. Ugh, but he's being wrong on the internet. chitoryu12 posted:We have seen criticism of: I think most people just want bethesda not to roll back the advancements that obsidian made.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:30
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Lord Lambeth posted:New Vegas never forced you to take the long way, they guided you there. They gave you the tools to break that guided path and if you did not use those tools that is entirely your fault. That's basically forcing Republican Vampire posted:I was hoping it'd at least be trees. Jesus. Wrong series.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:31
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So just for my own sake, I stepped through the video to look at the stat descriptions:quote:S- carry weight, melee Depending on how certain things work in the game's design, Perception is either going to be super important to actually hitting things or borderline useless, Endurance and Agility will be essential to VATS use, and Luck might just be the best thing in a game about finding garbage to play with. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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It seems pretty clear to me from that poster what they're planning on doing. I mean, they're gonna work on it for like 3 more months, spend the last one bugtesting, and then out it goes into the world. I doubt anything is gonna change much unless they delay it. Also, if I'm right and both Confirmed Bachelor and Cherchez La Femme have been cut loose, twenty bucks says that there's gonna be some internet drama over the lack of the ability to be gay in this game.
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im glad the dog cant die. thats a good thingSunAndSpring posted:Also, if I'm right and both Confirmed Bachelor and Cherchez La Femme have been cut loose, twenty bucks says that there's gonna be some internet drama over the lack of the ability to be gay in this game. if theyre clever theyll leave all romance bullshit out of the game period. or make it totally apropos of nothing like skyrim
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Jun 17, 2015 05:32
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Bholder posted:That's basically forcing Nah. It encourages you, sure, but it never makes you. To whit, I've never gone the way you're "supposed to" because I go where I want, dammit. Sometimes I go as far as Nipton but after that dicking-about-time has begun. You can make it to Vegas any way you want with nothing but a starter pistol if that's what you want to do. Doesn't even take a lot of effort. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 05:33
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:And killable children. Don't forget shooting people's crotches!
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Father Wendigo posted:Look Bub, if you don't think having everyone speak like characters from Banjo-Kazooie is awesome then you need to take your negativity about FO4 elsewhere. Doctor: "Ikambokem... Oominaka!" *transformed into washing machine*
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Wait there were people who played a Fallout set in Vegas and DIDN'T go 10 luck and immediately clean out every casino in town? Hope you assholes had fun humping radscorpions while I was making bank in air conditioned penthouse suites
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Blue Raider posted:if theyre clever theyll leave all romance bullshit out of the game period. or make it totally apropos of nothing like skyrim I've been a widower for two hundred years; you bet your rear end I'm back in the dating game.
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Bholder posted:That's basically forcing No forcing is when you demand a player go into a radiation filled death chamber when you have a ghoul, a super mutant, and a robot as possible companions.
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Actually the best way to go in Fallout 4 is with Luck 9 since there's gonna be a Booblehead for it, you can put that point somewhere else like agility or endurance
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SunAndSpring posted:It seems pretty clear to me from that poster what they're planning on doing. I mean, they're gonna work on it for like 3 more months, spend the last one bugtesting, and then out it goes into the world. I doubt anything is gonna change much unless they delay it. People have already been pretty mad about it. I get why, but the second you say the word "gay" anywhere near video game people just lose their poo poo and just start screaming about tumblr non-stop lately so any attempts to actually talk about why you do/don't like it tend to get thrown out the window. Blue Raider posted:
I'd be willing to bet the plot will revolve around your family, any romance being turned down due to family dedication.
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Blue Raider posted:if theyre clever theyll leave all romance bullshit out of the game period. or make it totally apropos of nothing like skyrim Ladykiller is on the perk poster so
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Lord Lambeth posted:No forcing is when you demand a player go into a radiation filled death chamber when you have a ghoul, a super mutant, and a robot as possible companions. So with Broken Steel you're only encouraged to go that direction instead. (The encouragement being that you get a grumpy voiceover if you don't do it)
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Republican Vampire posted:Ladykiller is on the perk poster so I'm hoping it's unisex now, doing the job of Confirmed Bachelor/Cherchez la Femme. I want to be a black widow man.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:39
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I will wear Scarlet Johansson's catsuit, unzipped down to my happy trail.
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computer parts posted:Don't forget shooting people's crotches! Let's be honest each other, with ourselves, with T. Howard: The game needs crotch shots. Like, I realize that somebody out there is spitting out their Ramune and insisting that head shots are the only thing that really "matter" in targeted combat, but the reality is that the best way to shoot somebody is not necessarily the best way to kill them. Unreal Tournament '99 had a community-made mutator that added "crotch shots" and it was always at the top of THE list. The game also needs targeted melee, predominately for targeted melee crotch shots.
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Lotish posted:I will wear Scarlet Johansson's catsuit, unzipped down to my happy trail. This is the correct way for a dude to wear a catsuit yes
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SunAndSpring posted:It seems pretty clear to me from that poster what they're planning on doing. I mean, they're gonna work on it for like 3 more months, spend the last one bugtesting, and then out it goes into the world. I doubt anything is gonna change much unless they delay it. Wait do we have any reason to think the In-game perk tree will be anything like what's on the poster? I was just assuming it was an excuse to show off their art assets, but I suppose it could be linked. Also, I'm not sure we should be making assumptions on what perks are or aren't there based on the internet's squinting abilities (especially because they might be reusing art for new perks like previous games have). Seems like a recipe for getting things hilariously wrong.
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Duckbag posted:Seems like a recipe for getting things hilariously wrong. When has that ever stopped anyone?
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Just realized it's only been 2 days since the showcase, goes to show that people really are going crazy for this game
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Duckbag posted:Wait do we have any reason to think the In-game perk tree will be anything like what's on the poster? I was just assuming it was an excuse to show off their art assets, but I suppose it could be linked. The Poster's supposed to be for "tracking" character progression. So it probably does represent the in-game perk tree.
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SexyCommando posted:Player: "I've got the caps, doctor, and I'm willing to undergo cybernetic augmentation"
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chitoryu12 posted:We have seen criticism of: 1. Voiced dialogue isn't a terrible thing by itself, it's just given Bethesda's track record with this kinda thing ("[Intelligence]So, you fight the good fight with your voice on GNR"), not to mention the vauge dialogue wheel is something out of ME not Fallout 2. New Vegas had two (2) NPCs in the entire game that couldn't die and never did the plot become unwinnable 3. It's not as simple as decided back story (every Fallout game has some level of this), it's how much they are forcing. You have to be married, with a kid, 20-30 years old, an affinity for dogs, etc. New Vegas let you be a 70 year old lesbian that has a fetish for explosives, that can't happen in Fallout 4. You keep getting mad at fairly legitimate complaints.
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Theta Zero posted:The plot twist is that you are the child, and your family of three were frozen in cryogenics but it malfunctioned, so your body was destroyed save for your brain, your parent of the same sex became brain dead, and the opposite parent outright died. At the end of the game, this is revealed along with the fact that your brain was transplanted into your braindead parent so you are both your parent and yourself at the same time. If this were actually true, I'd end up naming the PC "Steven Universe".
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God, I hope Bethesda will at least take advantage of their oodles of money and hire experienced voice actors and a good voice director this time around.
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Republican Vampire posted:And what the Courier did is fetch quests. Did you just not get that DLC or what? The whole point is that the courier is a generic video game character. No, I got all the DLC. Your predefined character in NV has a concrete backstory and the game railroads you into content much more than 3 or previous Fallout games. Republican Vampire posted:It doesn't force you. It's harder to make it the other way, but there are more than enough stealth boys and magazines to go a different way. Sorry, but I reject that. If 10% of it is for e-peen, 90% of that path is to railroad the player into the path that force-feeds you poo poo To Care About. The main railroaded route in NV is an extended version of what Fallout 3 managed to do in the Baby->Toddler->Teenager stuff. The game fails on a story level if you get to Vegas without being told why the city is important, so you actively discourage any other path than one that does so. Republican Vampire posted:Finally, you're fundamentally misunderstanding my point. Fallout 3 goes over why you should care and why it's so important over and over again. No, I understand it, I think you've got 3 and NV backwards in that respect. NV does (and has to) go over how important the Big Groups in question are, because you start with zero fucks about a made up city. 3 doesn't have to do any of that because, ya know, you're told its your character's dad and "your dad left you and you want to find out where he went" is something that works for most people.
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Bicyclops posted:for an entire decade, it is probably time to admit you no longer like the series, or the company, and to stop posting about in the thread devoted to both. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_New_Vegas
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Sorry, if this isn't about giving blow jobs to Bethesda then you're not allowed to post in here.
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Fallout 4 is gonna be insanely awesome.
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SunAndSpring posted:God, I hope Bethesda will at least take advantage of their oodles of money and hire experienced voice actors and a good voice director this time around. I don't even want amazing voice actors (although it wouldn't hurt), I just hope they budget enough money for more than 4 of them this game.
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counterfeitsaint posted:I don't even want amazing voice actors (although it wouldn't hurt), I just hope they budget enough money for more than 4 of them this game. Honestly this was my main issue with Skyrim. I could deal with all the little bugs and kinks in the game, but hearing the same god drat voice actors every two minutes drove me nuts.
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