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I wouldn't be surprised if BBC-A got a pretty steep license discount on New Top Gear, since they got screwed out of the last couple episodes of the last series, and BBC might be somewhat desperate to hold on to the audience, especially if Clarkson, Hammond, May and Wilman decide to launch a competing show on a platform like Netflix.
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Chris Evans radio show gets about ten million listeners, there's no way a show he fronts is going to be a ratings disaster.
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Jun 17, 2015 01:29
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bull3964 posted:That's actually the worst part of the announcement. There's no way in hell they've been able to retool in 2.5 months time. Yeah that might be the biggest red flag. If the new show doesn't open strong the viewership is likely to completely crater immediately, and rushing out the new crew doesn't help the odds they hit the ground running.
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Jun 17, 2015 01:32
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Idk if Chris Evans will be that bad, just didn't know he was into cars and wondering how he's gonna have time to do top gear and all the upcoming marvel movies...
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Jun 17, 2015 02:31
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Chris Evans is a loving twat who the BBC love to overpay. Didn't they sack him once too from the radio 1 breakfast show? Despite this, he isn't too bad a presenter if you can put up with him and is definitely a 'car guy'. Enough of the population also seem to like him (10 million people listen to his current radio show) such that he should be a popular enough name for top gear - in the UK at least where we actually know who he is...
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Jun 17, 2015 05:47
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Tomarse posted:Chris Evans is a loving twat who the BBC love to overpay. Didn't they sack him once too from the radio 1 breakfast show? He got fired for not showing up to work while he went on a week-long bender.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:56
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uPen posted:He got fired for not showing up to work while he went on a week-long bender. tbh that's pretty great
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Jun 17, 2015 05:57
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Tomarse posted:Chris Evans is a loving twat who the BBC love to overpay. Didn't they sack him once too from the radio 1 breakfast show? Millions of people listen to crap like Opie and Anthony here, that doesn't mean they aren't painfully unfunny shitstains. Top gear wasn't popular because it was about cars, it was popular because of the hosts, and without them we will likely end up with another Fifth Gear.
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Jun 17, 2015 08:04
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Does anyone actually know if Evans likes cars, or just bought those ferraris as investments? He's never sat right with me. Also using them once a year in his charity thing, does that come with certain tax incentives?
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Jun 17, 2015 08:16
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He's been on top gear twice. 2005 and season 14. in 2005 he had lots of landrovers, mustangs and jags as well as a ferrari or two; Also a morris and mini bus. I think he was top 5 on the SIARPC for that year too. E: wiki says he was 6th in the end due to Ellen MacArthur topping the board Fo3 fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 12:08
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To answer the "Is Chris Evans a car guy?" question... http://www.motoringresearch.com/top-cars/the-chris-evans-car-collection-0521976651
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Jun 17, 2015 12:29
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cloudchamber posted:Chris Evans radio show gets about ten million listeners, there's no way a show he fronts is going to be a ratings disaster.
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Jun 17, 2015 12:52
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Evans has been on Top Gear at least once, James May got to take the rare Ferrari out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxWMYcPX27s It will be very interesting to see how they get on. I'm banking on spectacular failure or spectacular success, nothing in between. Actually, no, the other way around. It's going to be a tepid non-failure.
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Jun 17, 2015 13:11
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I highly expect they'll have Evans, Jodie Marsh or Suzi Perry and some idiot like Vernon Kay or Nick Grimes to appeal to the youngsters. They'll all hate each other and the show will tank after one season.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:04
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Could always roll out Steve Berry and alienate an entirely new audience along with everyone that thinks he can't be as bad as I remember surely?
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Jun 17, 2015 14:12
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The top gear execs tried to change the presenters for the first couple of years whenever they found out a new audience demographic liked the show. Wilman told some stories about how the BBC refused to tell Hammond he had a job on the next series as they found out 48% of their audience were women so were trying to get a female presenter in, and when they got rid of Jason Dawe they kept putting massive pressure on them to bring in a young 20 something lad to appeal to the vauxhall nova brigade. Its going to be a bunch of presenters decided on by committee on their ability to appeal to every demographic, and not their chemistry together which is what made the show so popular.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:21
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"Look at a person just like you" is such a ridiculous idea for what TV execs think a show should be. I don't watch Jeremy and James because they're exactly like me, I watch them because they're weird old fussy guys with good senses of humor and that makes me laugh. (Richard is exactly like me)
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Jun 17, 2015 14:57
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I see no way New Top Gear isn't toned-down and PC as hell out of fear or anything even vaguely Clarkson-Like happening ever again. It'll be scripted, feel fake, forced, and won't be anything like the show that everyone loved. They should rename and reboot entirely.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:58
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Wamsutta posted:They should rename and reboot entirely. I can't stand Chris Evans, and never have. Like Clarkson, he's an arrogant and abrasive egotist, but the main difference between him and Clarkson is that Jeremy isn't afraid to let himself look like an absolute imbecile, which allows him to get away with whatever rubbish he's spouting, whereas I've never once seen Evans trying to portray himself as anything less than utterly brilliant and a comedic genius and ooh so rock 'n' roll woo, PAY ATTENTION TO ME. The format of "three idiots have calamity-prone misadventures in cars" isn't going to work with someone like that at the centre. And god, no, not Suzi Perry. The BBC's F1 coverage has gone massively downhill since Jake left and she took over. She's so bloody dull.
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Jun 17, 2015 15:32
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*edit: aimed at Wamsutta ^^ you're saying that like the Top Gear that just left wasn't remarkably scripted and fake. I'm not even suggested I had a problem with it but it was in no way as off the cuff as some people seem to believe.
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Jun 17, 2015 15:33
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Wamsutta posted:I see no way New Top Gear isn't toned-down and PC as hell out of fear or anything even vaguely Clarkson-Like happening ever again. It'll be scripted, feel fake, forced, and won't be anything like the show that everyone loved. They should rename and reboot entirely. So it will be like the last few seasons of forced, obviously scripted, mostly fake gags only with less overt racism and shouts of "POWER!"? Everybody claiming the sky is falling needs to calm down until we see new episodes. If we can't get 3 dudes or shredded who are into cars, old and new, to compete in inane challenges for ridiculous amounts of money something is wrong.
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Jun 17, 2015 15:37
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Top Gear absolutely was scripted and fake, but it was scripted and fake in a way that suited the presenters that grew over 13 years. For example, I'm sure the first instance of them running into each other when they came to a stop was by accident, but it was easy and natural (and funny) to turn it into a running gag. These presenters won't have history like that and if they are going to force the same format right off the bat without letting it evolve naturally, people are going to reject it. Go back and look at the first few seasons of Top Gear 2002 and you can see that things grew over time. That's what they need to do with this if they want it to even have a chance. But if they are keeping the exact same style program with the same style jokes and hi-jinks, only changing the presenters, it isn't going to work and people will be unhappy with it.
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Jun 17, 2015 15:44
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Take the Top Gear American route and just do an entire series of specials with no studio segments.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:02
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Alighieri posted:Take the Top Gear American route and just do an entire series of specials with no studio segments. Ah, you selectively forgot the misery that was TGUS studio episodes.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:09
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Jun 17, 2015 16:14
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meatpimp posted:Ah, you selectively forgot the misery that was TGUS studio episodes. TGUS for me started with the Alaska special, I think that was their S1 finale and after that no more studio segments iirc.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:33
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TGUS tries so hard to have its own running gags. "Really?" 
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Jun 17, 2015 16:42
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88h88 posted:*edit: aimed at Wamsutta I feel like the guys had a lot of creative liberty over what they were going to say/make jokes on, but yeah obviously they scripted stuff like the challenges etc. I dunno, I don't have faith in a new crew to do this show justice. Maybe I'll be wrong.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:47
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I remember seeing Chris Evans on TG, and I don't really like red Ferraris all that much, but a white F40 (before or after Labor Day) is a crime. It's like painting a DeLorean but worse.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:50
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InitialDave posted:By that logic Oprah could host it. Maybe, but Evans is someone who has proven himself to be capable of competently hosting multiple ventures over the years both on the radio and television and always grabbed high viewing figures. I'd say because of that it's a relatively safe bet that the renewed show will find a sizable audience even if the retouched format (however it looks) might not suit everyone.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:02
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Not every car Evans has bought has been a ferrari, or a white one at that. Someone mentioned earlier whether Evans just owns white ferrais as an investment and is not a car guy. Hell no, is fact he just buys cars he likes and "wins" auctions because he's willing to pay stupid money, or otherwise spends ridiculous money on restorations. He would be losing millions on cars he bought. I looked up what episodes he was on for SIARPC, 2005 06e9 when he owned only a couple non white ferraris, an episode I mentioned before , and s14e03 in 2009. I think he was 20th on the lap times then, but was the 2nd fastest wet lap time (after Eric Banna). I don't know the guy besides those episodes and a later episode whereJames May borrows a Ferrari. But he seemed OK on those earlier two appearances and it wasn't a bad segment. Everyone judging Evans should watch those early SIARPC appearances. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Alighieri posted:TGUS for me started with the Alaska special, I think that was their S1 finale and after that no more studio segments iirc. They started moving away from the format in season 2, but they still had the SIARPC segments. Season 3 is when they ditched those.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:23
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Payndz posted:I can't stand Chris Evans, and never have. Like Clarkson, he's an arrogant and abrasive egotist, but the main difference between him and Clarkson is that Jeremy isn't afraid to let himself look like an absolute imbecile, which allows him to get away with whatever rubbish he's spouting, whereas I've never once seen Evans trying to portray himself as anything less than utterly brilliant and a comedic genius and ooh so rock 'n' roll woo, PAY ATTENTION TO ME. The format of "three idiots have calamity-prone misadventures in cars" isn't going to work with someone like that at the centre. Thank you. You have said exactly what I was having trouble putting into words. He's an egomaniac, but not in the good way. He's also a bit creepy:  At 34, he married Billie Piper aged 18. Her mum was only 3 years older than him.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:25
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spog posted:Thank you. You have said exactly what I was having trouble putting into words. He's an egomaniac, but not in the good way. I think it would be safer to say that at age 18, Billie Piper married his money
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neckbeard posted:I think it would be safer to say that at age 18, Billie Piper married his money Shut up. Don't slander Billie Piper. "A story in The Independent on 27 June 2006, stated that Piper has declared that she does not wish to claim any money from Evans' reported £50 million wealth or his £540,000 salary from Radio Two. "I'm not taking a penny from him," she told the Radio Times. "I think that's disgusting.""
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neckbeard posted:I think it would be safer to say that at age 18, Billie Piper married his money Nah they were very much alike personality wise, he was until about a decade ago a big kid and could act like a twat, he has since grown up a lot. Think it was the end of his Marrage to Billy and the few years he did working on his own Market Stall (something he did as a joke when one of his TV shows bombed and he just kept doing it) that made him grow up. Its why - quote:but the main difference between him and Clarkson is that Jeremy isn't afraid to let himself look like an absolute imbecile is such an odd statement he throughout his career made part of his trade mark being made an absolute imbecile and takes it to heart that much that he does stuff like the Market Stall. Hell a large part of why TFI Friday worked so well was that he wasn't afraid to take this piss out of himself. He just doesn't seem to be that 'lad' type of guy any more though. Also he confirmed today that one of his co-presenters is a Woman - so that's either Suzy Perry and Jodi Kidd then as expected. Big question is who is the third. ukle fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 18:45
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captainOrbital posted:I remember seeing Chris Evans on TG, and I don't really like red Ferraris all that much, but a white F40 (before or after Labor Day) is a crime. White definitely works OK on some Ferraris though. 
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ukle posted:Also he confirmed today that one of his co-presenters is a Woman - so that's either Suzy Perry and Jodi Kidd then as expected. Big question is who is the third. No other female choices? Can't say that either of them inspires me. Jodi Kidd seems to confirm the EDIT: corrected - I thought she'd been a pro racer before a TV presenter. spog fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 19:21
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spog posted:No other female choices? What about Laura Howard or Olivia Colman or Jessica Hynes?
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It'll have to be a black since BBc is ticking all their boxes. SAVE US IDRIS
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