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King Vidiot posted:Wait, Confirmed Bachelor was that perk whose icon was a Vault Boy dude with a knife and a sleeping Vault Boy dude. That was in the very post claiming it "wasn't in the game". It looks like it's in the game to me. That's Mr. Sandman, the perk that allows you to assassinate sleeping NPC's while making no noise and not alerting people nearby.  vs. 
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Holy poo poo. I never really even tried rampaging on Skyrim, is ANYONE killable? http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Essential_NPCs
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Jun 17, 2015 14:03
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sout posted:Holy poo poo. I never really even tried rampaging on Skyrim, is ANYONE killable? One of the first things I did in Skyrim was try to end the Civil war by killing the lead rebel dude, he fell to his knees then got back up I was severely disappointed.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:04
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sout posted:Holy poo poo. I never really even tried rampaging on Skyrim, is ANYONE killable? Almost none of the villager NPCs are killable, even ones that you'd have a genuinely good reason to kill, like the drunk who constantly insults you or the theif that tells you to crash a ship and kill everyone on board. It's ridiculous, especially for a lot of quests where if you're trying to play as a heroic character or something, and you get stuck with a quest where a guy is ordering telling you to do some pretty horrible things.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:08
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I cheated to make Dogmeat invincible in FO3 anyway so thanks for saving me a line of console commands Bethesda.quote:In fact no animals will die in the game, making deathclaws a new kind of hard. The final boss will be a single mole rat.
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you had to cheat to make dogmeat invincible in fo3? he was already a loving tank.
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Volkerball posted:you had to cheat to make dogmeat invincible in fo3? he was already a loving tank. Every now and then he'd wind up dead somehow and I got tired of hitting quickload. That was before Broken Steel though.
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sout posted:Holy poo poo. I never really even tried rampaging on Skyrim, is ANYONE killable? Volkerball posted:you had to cheat to make dogmeat invincible in fo3? he was already a loving tank.
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sout posted:Holy poo poo. I never really even tried rampaging on Skyrim, is ANYONE killable? I remember recently I got to the Paarthuax quest where you are tasked by the Blades to kill the character in question and I wanted to make very clearly to them that I was now their enemy and then I couldn't kill them as they were needed later in the plot. Hugely disappointing.
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Early in the game one of your biggest challenges will be the player character's inability to let you kill anything organic, no matter how much you or other lives may depend on it, because out of all the homicidal kill-bots in Fallout you, unfortunately, are the one that follows Asimov's Laws and How close to the release date will we likely have to wait before we hear PC specs? As bad as buying new can be, I'm honestly more worried about Todd trying to do another GWFL or thinking about pushing Win 8-10 exclusivity at this point than if my current rig can't run the highest settings or how bugged this will really be. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 14:31
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sout posted:
This could be scripted but if this is something that happens if you get too close to a deathclaw I'm just happy not to see a "MASH X" prompted on the screen.
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Theta Zero posted:Almost none of the villager NPCs are killable, even ones that you'd have a genuinely good reason to kill, like the drunk who constantly insults you or the theif that tells you to crash a ship and kill everyone on board. It's ridiculous, especially for a lot of quests where if you're trying to play as a heroic character or something, and you get stuck with a quest where a guy is ordering telling you to do some pretty horrible things. Any of the Jarls will piss you off enough to make you want to kill them depending on how you're playing things. The last thing I did in Skyrim before putting it down basically forever was stand in the Maraketh (?) great hall and pound that dickhead Jarl and his lovely thane into the dirt over and over again while the entire town population of generic guards stormed in and got turned into a ragdoll sandbag wall around us by the soul-sucking mace of the Daedric lord I'd found in a nearby house.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Finding your lovely dad who abandoned you is a compelling character hook, but "Find the person who shot you and took your stuff" isn't? I find it amusing that you think that a package (that isn't even yours to begin with) worth 250 caps is as much of a compelling reason to hunt a man down as 'he is your last surviving family and because of him you got kicked out of your childhood home and sanctuary so you have to track him down to find out why'
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khy posted:I find it amusing that you think that a package (that isn't even yours to begin with) worth 250 caps is as much of a compelling reason to hunt a man down as 'he is your last surviving family and because of him you got kicked out of your childhood home and sanctuary so you have to track him down to find out why' Wolfsheim posted:I thought the point of gimmicks was to make low-effort shitposts, not post paragraph after paragraph about how loving retarded you are
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:everyone ended up fighting over a lovely water fountain this could apply to both
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sout posted:this could apply to both
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:one water fountain also had the biggest power generator in the setting so it's relatively pimped out. also electricity is a Big Deal I know, just a dumb observation. Do they say where everyone gets their purified water in Fallout 3 before Broken Steel?
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MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:You are forced into the track of "you are a watcher" regardless of any other choices, no blank canvas there. That happens during the game, though, and it's pretty much stated that anyone can become a Watcher.
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sout posted:I know, just a dumb observation. Do they say where everyone gets their purified water in Fallout 3 before Broken Steel? I'm not kidding, every renewable source of water comes from fridges idiots shoot each other over
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:one water fountain also had the biggest power generator in the setting so it's relatively pimped out Keep in mind that in the capitol wasteland, 99% of the water is irradiated. The clean water is delegated almost exclusively for drinking as a result. This means that every single man, woman, and child in the game has likely less than one bath/shower per month, depending upon how often they visit a doctor to get rid of their radiation. Honestly removing the stench of the unwashed (literally) masses is more than enough justification for the player to turn on the purifier. Especially in a tightly-packed claustrophobic place like Rivet City. sout posted:I know, just a dumb observation. Do they say where everyone gets their purified water in Fallout 3 before Broken Steel? A single Mr Handy robot can produce 1 bottle of purified water from condensation in a single day. There's a small scale water purifier in Megaton as well but it's in constant need of repair (To the point where the caretaker of it cannot leave it alone for a single day to repair pipes around town) and from in-game dialog seems barely adequate for the number of people in the town. Presumably there are other small-scale water purifiers scattered around, as well as containers that were protected from contamination in fridges or boxes or whatnot. khy fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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sout posted:I know, just a dumb observation. Do they say where everyone gets their purified water in Fallout 3 before Broken Steel? Either they don't or by using extremely lovely and worn down Not-Brita filters that get you a glass or two a day according to Eden.
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I hope Fallout 4 makes use of the Charles River as a breeding ground for horribly mutant creatures, but I guess that the game is going for a fantasy setting, not reality.
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khy posted:Keep in mind that in the capitol wasteland, 99% of the water is irradiated. The clean water is delegated almost exclusively for drinking as a result. This means that every single man, woman, and child in the game has likely less than one bath/shower per month, depending upon how often they visit a doctor to get rid of their radiation. Basically that's all that's missing from Bethesda really. Some ubersperg who's there to make sure all the plot holes and inconsistencies are filled in. Dude fixed up the Daggerfall clusterfuck in the best way possible. 
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Bicyclops posted:I hope Fallout 4 makes use of the Charles River as a breeding ground for horribly mutant creatures, but I guess that the game is going for a fantasy setting, not reality. The DC metro is uncanny in how realistic and lifelike it is, down to the fires and mutants everywhere.
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Wolfsheim posted:Yeah, but for no personal gain or benefit whatsoever, and you still basically play a good guy up until that exact moment. It would be like if at the end of Die Hard John McClane just decided to shoot all the survivors after beating the bad guys. It's dumb and basically nonsensical. You do? I mean, you have two broad options, fix the purifier, or don't. If you don't, you don't do the plot, the game doesn't progress because the plot doesn't happen, everything is centered around the purifier so if it stays broken nothing happens. If you do fix the purifier you can do so for whatever reason you want. You need your dad to do it because he built it, and you need the geck because that's apparently required to make it work, so you have to go fetch both of those things, but otherwise your motivation is your own. Maybe you just want to not live in a shithole full of radioactive water, maybe you might want to plan to take over once it starts working or something, it never comes up because the enclave show up. Your character isn't any more good than you want them to be, other than you have to be sort of basically polite enough to your dad to have a conversation with him because you need him to fix the purifier.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:If only Michael Kirkbride was at Bethesda I was never his biggest fan but he went so far off the rails after he left Bethesda that I wouldn't want him back. I would, however, want someone else to step into his position as loremaster (NO GODDAMNIT I DIDN'T MEAN YOU LAWRENCE SHICK GET BACK IN YOUR HOLE) for both TES and Fallout to take the pre-Oblivion Kirkbride position.
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sout posted:I know, just a dumb observation. Do they say where everyone gets their purified water in Fallout 3 before Broken Steel? I wanna say they at least made a token effort to show that the bigger settlements like Megaton, Rivet City and Tenpenny Tower had some kind of small-scale water purification thing going on. You even fix the lovely, leaky one in Megaton I think, though the others all just seem to exist offscreen. The fridge stocked with purified water was just a one-off event, which also makes no sense because it's humans vs. ghouls and ghouls suffer no ill effects from drinking irradiated water and oh God it's the ending all over again nngggghhhh
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khy posted:I was never his biggest fan but he went so far off the rails after he left Bethesda that I wouldn't want him back. I would, however, want someone else to step into his position as loremaster (NO GODDAMNIT I DIDN'T MEAN YOU LAWRENCE SHICK GET BACK IN YOUR HOLE) for both TES and Fallout to take the pre-Oblivion Kirkbride position.
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RBA Starblade posted:The DC metro is uncanny in how realistic and lifelike it is, down to the fires and mutants everywhere. Like, people on the Fallout wiki and imgur have been drawing these detailed maps of Boston to indicate where everything is located and how much of the city and surrounding area are included, and I'm sure it's more effort than the people making the game are going to have put into it (and I don't blame them), but I kind of hope they did put that much effort in, because playing in post-apocalyptic version of the streets I've been walking like every day of my entire life will be really, really cool.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:The biggest tragedy of Kirkbride was that he never bothered to be medicated I've said it before and i'll say it again. Kirkbride has some really good ideas that would work well in the series. But what he desperately, desperately needs is an editor who can rein him in when he starts going off the rails and can keep him focused on a single task as well as keep his general level of batshit insanity as minimal as possible. Also he needs to loving get over Vivec. We get it, he made a rather interesting original character, he doesn't need to fixate on his precious hermaphrodite mary sue anymore. I'd give you 10 to 1 odds if he was put in charge of Fallout lore he'd try to work Vivec into it in some way, shape, or form. Why? Because CHIM, gently caress you.
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khy posted:I've said it before and i'll say it again. Kirkbride has some really good ideas that would work well in the series. But what he desperately, desperately needs is an editor who can rein him in when he starts going off the rails and can keep him focused on a single task as well as keep his general level of batshit insanity as minimal as possible. Also he needs to loving get over Vivec. We get it, he made a rather interesting original character, he doesn't need to fixate on his precious hermaphrodite mary sue anymore. And considering all of his crazier poo poo is written inside of notes and books I'm not sure you have to worry about it being taken as true fact other than the ramblings of a crazy man writing poo poo in notepads in bathroom stalls, what Kirkbride is likely doing in real life now
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I'd actually enjoy that because Vivec is by far the funniest loving poo poo in the Elder Scrolls series and the last thing Bethesda games need is for them to take themselves seriously all the time. I don't take it as true fact, problem I find is that the other TES fanboys masturbate furiously over his every word which makes it difficult to have a discussion about him without someone jumping down my throat for not worshipping every single letter he's ever put to paper. Anyway. Back to fallout discussion. A lot of the time I see people who dislike the theme-park style events that happen in the games; such as the liberty prime sequence, or the battle for the dam, or any other heavily scripted sequence. The problem I have with that is that I haven't seen any games with AI sufficiently advanced to produce amazing battles, encounters, events, and so on with any regular frequency. I've seen it happen a couple times in other games where something completely unscripted but amazing happened but it usually happens almost by accident. Given that, I genuinely like heavily scripted encounters and events to occur because they tend to break up the monotony of venturing out into the wastes, getting into a few small fights, scavenging for supplies, and heading back. I enjoy those wasteland outings but the change in pace between scavenging runs and scripted events is nice to keep the game from getting too monotonous.
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Can't speak for those people, but my problem isn't with theme park "events" inasmuch as the theme park environment, where you have themed areas that have no connection to each other and never seem to really interact or mesh together. You can have setpieces (like the New Vegas vaults like Vault 11, or Black Rock Mountain and the super mutant nature preserve) in a cohesive world, but when it gets to the point where that's all it is it sort of takes you out of the game. Skyrim's world was a little bit better about that, so I at least have some faith that the world of Fallout 4 will all fit together too. The stuff they've shown us so far looks really good, better than I was expecting, so I'm definitely looking forward to the game.
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I wonder how southies will be portrayed/represented. I imagine foul-mouthed mutants but from what I understand Bethesda doesn't want to rip directly from reality.
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Is there anywhere to talk about Fallout Shelter? This game is really hard.
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KingKapalone posted:Is there anywhere to talk about Fallout Shelter? This game is really hard. Should someone make a Fallout Shelter thread? Enough people have asked if there was one.
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computer parts posted:That happens during the game, though, and it's pretty much stated that anyone can become a Watcher. Yeah and the point is you don't have a choice. Pillars of Eternity is an RPG about being a watcher. In the same vein Fallout 4 might be an RPG about being a person with a family. Why is one of these a bigger deal than the other?
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