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gradenko_2000 posted:Domestic issues as a way to delay warmongering is a tricky problem to approach. If you get in too deep you're going to end up simulating demographics and elections and political parties and whatnot and that might be a couple of layers too many for the game's subject matter. On the other hand, make it too simple and it's effectively a timer until you get your conquerin' on and that might feel too artificial. They made it sound like the Northern bloc and Middle Eastern bloc squading up was the most interesting part of the game. I think having an open alliance mode would be really interesting, especially for multiplayer. Angling for and preparing alliances would make 36-39 much more meaningful.
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gradenko_2000 posted:The other thing I kind of felt strongly about from the 3MA podcast was so many countries being locked in to the Allies right from the get go. Some of those were literally still part of the British Empire so it's kinda understandable, but if they want to reinforce the "a grand strategy game that just happens to be set in 1936" approach they really need to think about making the primary alliance a lot more fluid and dynamic. Who'd they say was in the Allies? Because it starts out as just UK + Commonwealth, and France. uPen posted:Same goes for the US, with no fun domestic game to play your pre-war strategy is how do I get involved in a war with Germany as rapidly as possible which is the opposite of what should be happening. Accurate FDR gameplay 
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Jun 16, 2015 21:43
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Darkrenown posted:Who'd they say was in the Allies? Because it starts out as just UK + Commonwealth, and France. Australia, which again is mostly understable, although they did say that Russia got the Aussies to 70% communist and it didn't mean anything. The other pertinent comment was that Germany wanted to join the Norway/Sweden/Finland northern bloc, but Germany is the permanent leader of its own permanent Axis alliance, so no go there either.
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Jun 16, 2015 21:49
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Darkrenown posted:Accurate FDR gameplay
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Jun 16, 2015 21:51
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Has anyone tried the Crisis of the Confederation mod for CKII? I was looking at it and it seems like it might be worth giving a try.
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Funky Valentine posted:"Okay, I really want to help kill Hitler, but the Depression is a bitch and I don't really have casus bel- oh thank you, Hirohito." Never before released footage of FDR and his two secretaries in the morning of December 7th, 1941. 
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Jun 16, 2015 22:20
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uPen posted:Because in typical HOI fashion the pre-war game is boring as gently caress so if your options as a journalist at this event are: You'd have to make a domestic sim that would have to stop mattering much after a while and it isn't worth the design bandwidth to do that. As I said before, I think a 1937 start would significantly help the game.
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Jun 16, 2015 22:22
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gradenko_2000 posted:Australia, which again is mostly understable, although they did say that Russia got the Aussies to 70% communist and it didn't mean anything. I don't know if they mentioned, but coups were disabled for the MP event since they weren't balanced yet and have fairly drastic consequences. For Germany, yeah personally I would like them to start out without their empty faction, but it does have some advantages too.
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Jun 16, 2015 22:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srAFW2FiML0 Northernlion just posted his version of the preview. Marginally less annoying than quill, I guess? I think the day/night cycle is completely gorgeous, not really jarring at all, but it seems like youtubers have heartburn about that and just about everything else. Then again I've only really played EUIV seriously so I'm pretty filthy and casual!
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Jun 17, 2015 02:42
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Darkrenown posted:Accurate FDR gameplay Fair enough.
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This could actually work as an idea if you conceive of the "Go to war fast" decisions as choosing to spend political capital on internationalism instead of the (historical) focus on dealing with the depression first. Maybe the aggressive options should give massive penalties to industry and whatever domestic dissent measure the game uses (or rather the non-aggressive options give the bonuses that bring the US to its historic levels) to represent that the country is recovering much slower and without the beginnings of economic improvement supports FDR much less. You can certainly argue the historicity of this, but it allows for a measure of choice that doesn't just force the US to wait for Pearl Harbor while hopefully keeping the balance more intact by making an early-intervening US much weaker. Basically, giving solid reasons for the paths that were historically taken, such as massive bonuses for keeping isolationism even if that's not perfectly historically justifiable, helps fight the advantages of hindsight and makes decisions to vary from the path interesting trade-offs instead of no-brainers.
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blackmongoose posted:This could actually work as an idea if you conceive of the "Go to war fast" decisions as choosing to spend political capital on internationalism instead of the (historical) focus on dealing with the depression first. Maybe the aggressive options should give massive penalties to industry and whatever domestic dissent measure the game uses (or rather the non-aggressive options give the bonuses that bring the US to its historic levels) to represent that the country is recovering much slower and without the beginnings of economic improvement supports FDR much less. You can certainly argue the historicity of this, but it allows for a measure of choice that doesn't just force the US to wait for Pearl Harbor while hopefully keeping the balance more intact by making an early-intervening US much weaker. Basically, giving solid reasons for the paths that were historically taken, such as massive bonuses for keeping isolationism even if that's not perfectly historically justifiable, helps fight the advantages of hindsight and makes decisions to vary from the path interesting trade-offs instead of no-brainers. Yeah, it's unfortunate that the best bonuses for isolationism itself would probably be best placed as VPs, which people don't usually care about in Paradox games unless they have an in-game effect. In TK, for example, the Americans can choose to focus on making a huge land force the way Germany and Russia did but in doing so they lose some industrial power and they also lose some air and naval support pieces.
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It is so weird to me that all these previewers are having such difficulty with even the basic concept of HOI4. "It's nothing like EUIV" Oh, really? "It's only ten years long!" You don't say. "It's a game about total war" ...I don't really know what else you were expecting from a WWII game? I guess it just goes to show how much the audience has changed since CK2 came out. And then there was that guy on the 3MA episode who thought the heavy focus on industrial potential was unsuited for a WWII game. Has this man ever even seen a history on the subject? 
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Autonomous Monster posted:And then there was that guy on the 3MA episode who thought the heavy focus on industrial potential was unsuited for a WWII game. Has this man ever even seen a history on the subject?
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Jun 17, 2015 13:39
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Man every HoI4 video I see just makes me want to play it more. I couldn't stand DH at all, it was just too awful. But HoI4 looks like it's streamlined enough to not be batshit crazy and also has enough automated tools that I won't go insane from trying to manage two different fronts without just pausing every hour.
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Does anyone know where HOI3 is pulling its data from now? I've added some static modifiers to the file in the common folder and they're not affecting my game at all, which is frustrating. Podcat's hotfix ended up preventing me from getting all of those CTDs , so I appreciate that. But I was hoping to scratch my WW2 itch with HOI3 and this is just a little annoying.
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GO gently caress YOURSELF posted:Does anyone know where HOI3 is pulling its data from now? I've added some static modifiers to the file in the common folder and they're not affecting my game at all, which is frustrating. Podcat's hotfix ended up preventing me from getting all of those CTDs , so I appreciate that. But I was hoping to scratch my WW2 itch with HOI3 and this is just a little annoying. If you're running Their Finest Hour, all the data from that is in a "tfh" subfolder inside the HOI 3 folder.
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Prop Wash posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srAFW2FiML0 Might just be me but I found this to be way more annoying than Quill. This guy just rambled and repeated the same things over and over and really didn't describe the game in any sort of detail. The video quality also has issues.
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Autonomous Monster posted:And then there was that guy on the 3MA episode who thought the heavy focus on industrial potential was unsuited for a WWII game. Has this man ever even seen a history on the subject? Why can't I marry Hitler senpai?! Help, Mussolini is pregnant with Hirohitos baby after I glitched a same-sex marriage! I would be amazed if paradox included economic and domestic affairs in a fun way, because you just know someone will argue these weren't important or shouldnt matter.
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gradenko_2000 posted:If you're running Their Finest Hour, all the data from that is in a "tfh" subfolder inside the HOI 3 folder. You are a beautiful genius and I am very grateful to you.
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Speaking of HOI, HOI3 is on sale at 75% off right now as a flash sale on steam.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Speaking of HOI, HOI3 is on sale at 75% off right now as a flash sale on steam. Sky blue, water wet, but to anyone getting this, get the expansions. The OOB editor is cool, and so are the useless novelty plan overlays.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Speaking of HOI, HOI3 is on sale at 75% off right now as a flash sale on steam. Don't buy HoI3.
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Prop Wash posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srAFW2FiML0 I gotta say, HoI 4 looks amazing to me and I never really got into the older ones althought I had 2 a long time ago. The day/night stuff is irritating to me though, it made me a little queasy for some reason. I think the day and night themselves both look gorgeous but transition is too abrupt for me to comfortably look at and it is quite distracting. Will there be a toggle to keep day or night? I do like the look of both but I think I'd prefer to just keep it mostly on one or the other. Switch to night for burning cities and devestation (as awful as that is to say) but keep day for planning and more normal gameplay). NLJP fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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NLJP posted:I gotta say, HoI 4 looks amazing to me and I never really got into the older ones althought I had 2 a long time ago. The day/night stuff is irritating to me though, it made me a little queasy for some reason. I think the day and night themselves both look gorgeous but transition is too abrupt for me to comfortably look at and it is quite distracting. Will there be a toggle to keep day or night? I do like the look of both but I think I'd prefer to just keep it mostly on one or the other. Switch to night for burning cities and devestation (as awful as that is to say) but keep day for planning and more normal gameplay).
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The transition looks like a clear work in progress to me. The reflection of the sun as it goes over the Mediterranean is awesome though.
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It also strikes me as the number one thing you'd look at making toggleable if you wanted to improve performance. I'd be surprised if it couldn't be turned off.
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It's probably also less distracting when you're not playing at full speed like the people in the streams have been.
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Just give it a blur effect to make it more gradual.
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Bought HOI3 during the steam flash sale. I've played CK2 extensively and completely understand it, but HOI3 seems like such a different animal. Can anyone point me toward a good LP that isn't hosed by being from four years ago? I have all of the expansions.
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TropicalCoke posted:Bought HOI3 during the steam flash sale. I've played CK2 extensively and completely understand it, but HOI3 seems like such a different animal. Can anyone point me toward a good LP that isn't hosed by being from four years ago? I have all of the expansions. No one has ever made a full HoI 3 LP because it is, hand to heart, not the best game paradox has ever made. One might even be excused for not even ranking it in the top half.
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Yeah, you're probably best off digging around the Paradox forums, I don't think there's anything usable here.
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I can't find any for EU IV here either, which is strange considering EU3 had a bunch.
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It's always seen in mega campaigns, so you wont see a tutorial that often for EUIV. That and they keep changing the gameplay so much between patches that a tutorial LP is only good for a short time. See: The CKII Tutorial LP, which a lot of the info is useless thanks to changes since.
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TropicalCoke posted:Bought HOI3 during the steam flash sale. I've played CK2 extensively and completely understand it, but HOI3 seems like such a different animal. Can anyone point me toward a good LP that isn't hosed by being from four years ago? I have all of the expansions. There is a German tutorial LP somewhere on the Paradox forums that taught me all the important things.
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GaussianCopula posted:There is a German tutorial LP somewhere on the Paradox forums that taught me all the important things. Oh you mean this video one?
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nope this one https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/germany-tutorial-take-2.577185/
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Which was written before the latest expansion came out.
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EU4 DLC is on steam sale. I haven't been keeping up with it; are any of the recent expansions particularly worth it/not? I have Conquest of Paradise & Wealth of Nations already.
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Flippycunt posted:It's probably also less distracting when you're not playing at full speed like the people in the streams have been.
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