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Which one, I heard like a million different versions.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:17
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quote:making beloved characters look as pathetic and lame as poor vegeta in BoG Wasn't Vegeta the only dude other than Goku who actually hurt Beerus And without SSG power too
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Jun 17, 2015 17:31
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Webbeh posted:First episode summary of DBS:
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Jun 17, 2015 17:35
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I will never understand dbz fans that dont get the series.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:35
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The Bee posted:
I just found this mistake amusing.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:40
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I don't know what a movie helmet is but I'd believe Toriyama has one.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:47
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The man does seem to have a passion for dumb head wear
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Jun 17, 2015 17:49
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Guyver posted:I want this to be a revisit of Roshi's training on the big island. Instant Transmission milk delivery, super saiyan field plowing and construction work. Other than hitting people it's the only way Goku knows how to make money. Don't forget Goku (and Mr Buu) running into some random idiot in West City who is challenging people to fight them to earn money.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:54
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KoB posted:I will never understand dbz fans that dont get the series. Alot of DBZ is also people screaming really loud and getting gigantic muscles. Different people like different parts of it I guess (I'm really glad they've dropped INSANE MUSCLE GAIN from power ups and transformations though, that always looked really garish and stupid imo)
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Jun 17, 2015 17:57
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Pureauthor posted:Wasn't Vegeta the only dude other than Goku who actually hurt Beerus "Yes, but he did jokes, acted silly, and wasn't the stoic super badass from my nostalgia!" is what that guy would probably retort. It's worth considering that most fans only know of DBZ and, maybe, GT and consider the series as a serious superhero action show and forget how often the show was humorous, parodied itself, and was outright silly.
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Jun 17, 2015 17:59
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A Steampunk Gent posted:(I'm really glad they've dropped INSANE MUSCLE GAIN from power ups and transformations though, that always looked really garish and stupid imo) Disagree, Super Trunks uber alles
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Jun 17, 2015 18:07
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projecthalaxy posted:Disagree, Super Trunks uber alles Something both Cell and Trunks disagreed with by the end of his fight
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Jun 17, 2015 18:15
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Makes me wonder how many people who watched DBZ know much about Dragon Ball. Probably not too many.
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Jun 17, 2015 18:31
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Crosspeice posted:Makes me wonder how many people who watched DBZ know much about Dragon Ball. Yeah, that number is super small. Remember that there were three or four attempts to bring Dragon Ball to the West and it wasn't successful until after DBZ was established.
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Jun 17, 2015 18:37
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Darko posted:That is the best possible start to the series I could have hoped for. I bet you a lot of Dragon Ball "fans" are currently complaining about it on the Internet. I want the whole thing to just be slice of life stuff. No True DBZ Fan
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Jun 17, 2015 19:07
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KoB posted:I will never understand dbz fans that dont get the series. Most of them never read the manga or read/saw Dragon Ball. Two entirely different impressions can come from one series like that.
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Jun 17, 2015 19:12
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Vegeta vs Super Saiyan Monkey Kakarot kicking off in DBM. This should be a fun one.
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Jun 17, 2015 19:20
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The series is pretty different from the manag, and Z from Dragonball in a lot of ways, big ways too. Just as an example, we always in the series have people powering up for minutes, standing around screaming and such... when in the manga it's a plot point that when fighting the Ginyus Goku can raise and lower his power level from piss-weak to insnatly stronger that Ginyu himself so quickly that the scouters don't even register the change. So I can see people having different views of the show. That being said, gently caress the haters, this show is gonna own.
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Jun 17, 2015 19:35
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He did have to actually power up and use the Kaioken to get higher than Ginyu, but yeah, the instantaneous power spikes were hugely relevant in everyone underestimating him.
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Jun 17, 2015 20:33
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Crosspeice posted:Makes me wonder how many people who watched DBZ know much about Dragon Ball. Which is sad, because the Dragon Ball manga and anime especially are quite entertaining. Hell, the DB anime's filler blows most of Z's out of the water, and actually expands on the story and characters. I've been watching it again recently with a more critical eye, and I absolutely adore what the anime did with the Red Ribbon Army's introduction. Bringing back the Ox King and Chi-chi for a while, having Pilaf more or less pass the torch of main villain off to RR while actually having moments of competence, and Silver and folks being an actual threat to Goku instead of being beaten like 5 seconds after being introduced. It's quite fun.
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Jun 17, 2015 21:04
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It's important to state that the most popular parts of the "original" DB were the tournament/serious parts, and that the series eventually progressed to the more serious tone of DBZ well before Raditz fell on Earth. There's a reason why it went that way. While we can scoff at fans for not liking what Dragon Ball really is, the serious fights, muscle gains, and 'punchmans' (hate that term) are what made DBZ the entity it is.
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Jun 17, 2015 21:26
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facebook jihad posted:It's important to state that the most popular parts of the "original" DB were the tournament/serious parts, and that the series eventually progressed to the more serious tone of DBZ well before Raditz fell on Earth. There's a reason why it went that way. While we can scoff at fans for not liking what Dragon Ball really is, the serious fights, muscle gains, and 'punchmans' (hate that term) are what made DBZ the entity it is. It's actually impossible to enjoy the punchmans (great term), serious fights and gains and think that Dragonball is rad and cool while ALSO appreciating that it's a goofy as gently caress series where a monkey man learns kung fu of a space cricket by managing to tell a joke and that both elements are in fact what make it great and not be a giant grognard who throws a poo poo fit when Vegeta isn't an ultra badass all the time and maybe has to try and feed a space cat.
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Jun 17, 2015 21:32
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Prison Warden posted:It's actually impossible to enjoy the punchmans (great term), serious fights and gains and think that Dragonball is rad and cool while ALSO appreciating that it's a goofy as gently caress series where a monkey man learns kung fu of a space cricket by managing to tell a joke and that both elements are in fact what make it great and not be a giant grognard who throws a poo poo fit when Vegeta isn't an ultra badass all the time and maybe has to try and feed a space cat. I doubt many of my friends in middle school thought King Kai was the reason they liked the series
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Jun 17, 2015 21:35
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facebook jihad posted:It's important to state that the most popular parts of the "original" DB were the tournament/serious parts, and that the series eventually progressed to the more serious tone of DBZ well before Raditz fell on Earth. There's a reason why it went that way. While we can scoff at fans for not liking what Dragon Ball really is, the serious fights, muscle gains, and 'punchmans' (hate that term) are what made DBZ the entity it is. That's absolutely true, but even then, the tournaments and the big fights were way more creative and less "RRRRAAAAARRR MY POWER IS MAXIMUM" than they became in Z. The very first tournament has some incredibly zany fights and even with the second tournament having Tenshinhan (the only serious character), we still had Krillin beating Chaozu with arithmetic, Goku stealing Roshi's shades and Goku moving his hands so fast it looked like he had 8 hands. Goku vs King Piccolo is arguably the first really serious fight and the following tournament is also a lot less wacky, but the bulk of Dragonball, even after switching gears and establishing the shonen genre, is still hugely comedic.
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Jun 17, 2015 21:36
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I'm a grown man hyped for Dragon Ball in the year 2015.
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Jun 17, 2015 21:41
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Some Numbers posted:That's absolutely true, but even then, the tournaments and the big fights were way more creative and less "RRRRAAAAARRR MY POWER IS MAXIMUM" than they became in Z. and even then the third tournament has fights such as "God clowns Yamcha, including headbutting him in the junk"
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Jun 17, 2015 21:43
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Exercu posted:and even then the third tournament has fights such as "God clowns Yamcha, including headbutting him in the junk" Oh poo poo, that's right, God tookover a human and sharked his way into the Top 8 and then clowned Yamcha. How did I forget about that?
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Jun 17, 2015 21:44
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Some Numbers posted:He did have to actually power up and use the Kaioken to get higher than Ginyu, but yeah, the instantaneous power spikes were hugely relevant in everyone underestimating him. Looking at my copy, what happens is Ginyu reveals he can alter his power like the earthlings, Goku kaio kens flashily and makes a deliberate point of telling them to watch their scouters. After the Ginyus notice Goku outstrips Ginyu, Goku says that that reading is nothing compared to him using his power in bursts, then switches off his kaio ken and tells Ginyu to give up because Goku doesn't want to waste time fighting him. Then Ginyu body switches him. I guess you could read it either way but the impression I get is that Goku's moved beyond his garish display of the Kaioken and is purely using it in burst form now. It's been refined and incorporated into his general style. I can't wait to get to Freeza and see if it's used the same way there in the manga.
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Jun 17, 2015 21:47
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Prison Warden posted:Looking at my copy, what happens is Ginyu reveals he can alter his power like the earthlings, Goku kaio kens flashily and makes a deliberate point of telling them to watch their scouters. After the Ginyus notice Goku outstrips Ginyu, Goku says that that reading is nothing compared to him using his power in bursts, then switches off his kaio ken and tells Ginyu to give up because Goku doesn't want to waste time fighting him. Then Ginyu body switches him. Yeah, that scene took a while in the anime, with Goku's power level jumping incrementally on the scouters. I thought I remembered it still taking some time in the manga, but I guess not?
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Jun 17, 2015 21:49
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Some Numbers posted:Yeah, that scene took a while in the anime, with Goku's power level jumping incrementally on the scouters. It's like 3 pages, and it's a chapter end /beginning which stretches stuff out time wise as well.
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Jun 17, 2015 21:55
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Pierson posted:I'm a grown man hyped for Dragon Ball in the year 2015. That's about the average audience that'll show up at the theater, if BoG was any indication.
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Jun 18, 2015 00:55
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So wait, it's confirmed then, Dragon Ball Super is a DBZ crossover with Silver Spoon? Have I accidentally fallen into a far more beautiful world? Or are we all dying and this is how they ease us into the news?
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Jun 18, 2015 01:26
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facebook jihad posted:I doubt many of my friends in middle school thought King Kai was the reason they liked the series fight mans vs super saiyan radish farming is like comparing bleach to one piece sure bleach is more popular to americans, but who gives a gently caress because it's shallow, awful garbage
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Jun 18, 2015 02:03
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Thunderbro posted:fight mans vs super saiyan radish farming is like comparing bleach to one piece But most people liked Dragon Ball/DBZ when they were, like, twelve. It is a kids thing so it involves a kid's judgement (so a bunch of supermen fighting each other is awesome).
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Jun 18, 2015 02:23
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Thunderbro posted:fight mans vs super saiyan radish farming is like comparing bleach to one piece You've outgrown Dragon Ball
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Jun 18, 2015 02:25
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mycot posted:But most people liked Dragon Ball/DBZ when they were, like, twelve. It is a kids thing so it involves a kid's judgement (so a bunch of supermen fighting each other is awesome). TheKingofSprings posted:You've outgrown Dragon Ball Thunderbro fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Jun 18, 2015 02:59
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Best part of the Buu saga was Hercule, as he always seemed like a self aware parody of the genre and having him almost succeed in making Fat Buu good and singlehandily saving the day was brilliant.
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Jun 18, 2015 12:01
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I enjoy the silly irreverant gag parts of Dragon Ball as well as the grim world-ending seriousness of DBZ, and while Toriyama didn't quite nail his attempt to combine the two in the Buu Saga, I still enjoy it a lot. Dragon Ball is a good series.
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Jun 18, 2015 12:11
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And finally, some concrete information on when DBS (first?) takes place: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/06/17/early-dragon-ball-super-story-details-in-august-2015-v-jump/ quote:Dragon Ball Super is a gem of an original story, from an original draft provided by manga author Akira Toriyama-sensei! This series is a super tale that depicts what happens “afterwards” to Goku and the gang following the titanic battle with Majin Buu, and links up with the movies Battle of Gods and Revival of “F”!!
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Jun 18, 2015 12:52
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I really dig the return to more adventure-based Dragonball narrative. DBZ is awesome but, for me, it kind of screwed the whole shonen genre.
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