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lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Sir AIDS posted:

The creator of Brutal Doom is a pedophile who jacks off to pictures of dead bodies.

I'm glad doom 4 is based off of his work

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Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

:toot: I'm now one of those guys who installs Doom on his work computer, like that statistic that's always mentioned when anyone talks about Doom's popularity! Got a ton of mods/wads all set to go, too. Showing off Reelism to a co-worker caused him to immediately go and buy Doom from Steam, too. Tomorrow, I'll show him Demonsteele + Going Down.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Sir AIDS posted:

The creator of Brutal Doom is a pedophile who jacks off to pictures of dead bodies.

So do you share that hobby and that's why you recognize it or....

esselfortium
Jul 19, 2006

Cumulonimbus Antagonistic Posting

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

:toot: I'm now one of those guys who installs Doom on his work computer, like that statistic that's always mentioned when anyone talks about Doom's popularity! Got a ton of mods/wads all set to go, too. Showing off Reelism to a co-worker caused him to immediately go and buy Doom from Steam, too. Tomorrow, I'll show him Demonsteele + Going Down.

What do you do for a living where you can just freely play video games at your desk while you're on the clock?

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

esselfortium posted:

What do you do for a living where you can just freely play video games at your desk while you're on the clock?

I work for Pornhub, but it was during my lunch break.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012
Nvm mispost

Segmentation Fault fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jun 17, 2015

czg
Dec 17, 2005
hi

Segmentation Fault posted:

Meanwhile, Sarkeesian's getting triggered over... A woman from Persona?

https://twitter.com/EarlofFujoshi/status/611231333243846656

Thank you for posting this in The Early FPS Megathread.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
So, it looks like in Doom 4 not only are weapons getting alternate fires, the alternate fire upgrades you have to find at some point in the campaign like in Wolf:TNO. They showed that the Shotgun gets a 3 shot charge burst, and the machinegun is getting a missile launcher. I wonder what the other guns are going to get.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Elliotw2 posted:

So, it looks like in Doom 4 not only are weapons getting alternate fires, the alternate fire upgrades you have to find at some point in the campaign like in Wolf:TNO. They showed that the Shotgun gets a 3 shot charge burst, and the machinegun is getting a missile launcher. I wonder what the other guns are going to get.

Maybe the bfg will get it's rapid fire from the alphas

TerminusEst13
Mar 1, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUh5_BdJrl8

Interview with one of the developers, starts at 5:45:00.

There's a few incredibly worrying things in there ("when people play doom, they want to jam a guy's face into the floor, tear 'em up with the chainsaw" :downsgun:), but there's a couple interesting factoids in there.

I'm genuinely interested in the idea of "push forward combat", rewarding players for being aggressive and jumping from one enemy to the next instead of retreating away and trying to recover. I think there's some potential to be had there, even if enemies as health pinatas is kind of...eehhh.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

esselfortium posted:

What do you do for a living where you can just freely play video games at your desk while you're on the clock?

I played through all of No Rest for the Living, Final Fantasy (three times*), Torchlight, Pokémons White and Red, Quake and its expansions, and a lot of TrackMania while at work. The secret is to be a salaried grad student who studies animal behavior. You need something you do when your critters don't feel like working.

*original NES version once and BlackBerry remake version twice, which took like 18 months because I only played it in the bus and during poop breaks.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

czg posted:

Thank you for posting this in The Early FPS Megathread.

Aww fuckin poo poo that was meant for hellthread my bad

SilentW
Apr 3, 2009

my It dept hgere is fucking clwonshoes, and as someone hwo used to do IT for 9 years it pains me to see them fbe so terriuble

Segmentation Fault posted:

Aww fuckin poo poo that was meant for hellthread my bad

Thank you from bringing us on a brief trip to Imp Zone, we must now rip and tear our way out of its huge, disgusting guts.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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I Can't Believe This Woman Has Opinions

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Whats with the weird rear end teal thing stuck in his boob

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.
It's a cyber heart thing, like Iron Man's got.

I think the Cyberdemon looks pretty cool :shrug:

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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that's apple's new iHeart to give cyberdemons double the blood circulation

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Cyberdemon look really cool in that teaser but not as cool once it was fully revealed

maev
Dec 6, 2010
Economically illiterate Tory Boy Bollocks brain.
Keep away from children
Lets get something out the way, Hell in Doom 4 looks like complete poo poo.

Hell in doom needs to be 90s loving Satanic. Goats heads, upside down fuckin' crosses. Also sort the plasma gun and shotgun out. Sgtmark may be a dickhead with terrible opinions but some of the gunplay looks shockingly unsatisfying.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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maev posted:

Hell in doom needs to be 90s loving Satanic. Goats heads, upside down fuckin' crosses.

My favorite ever decorations in doom were the gutted and dismembered barons of hell chained to the walls. I want to see more poo poo like that.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Yeah I remember all the creepy impaled corpses and wall-chained victims and stuff. I hope they don't forget that stuff

it is hell after all and those generic monsters are supposed to be demons

Bread Pudding
Aug 7, 2010

Zzulu posted:

Yeah I remember all the creepy impaled corpses and wall-chained victims and stuff. I hope they don't forget that stuff

it is hell after all and those generic monsters are supposed to be demons
Maybe we'll get to revisit House of Pain! :shobon:

Sure, it has terrible gameplay and required secrets and Sandy Petersen, but that level *was* the Hell episode to me. You got to traverse lakes of acidic blood, avoid death traps in giant intestine rooms and see a bunch of torn corpses hanging over pools of slime through windows! It was legitimately creepy when I first played through it.

Or maybe we'll have Generic Red Corridors to contrast with the early game's Generic Grey Corridors, but one can hope.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Doom is just not the same without 1990s Satanic panic design. Like when I play it I want to feel like I'm in one of those videotapes about how Satanic cults are going to totally murder your children and burn down your house, honest, really.

SilentW
Apr 3, 2009

my It dept hgere is fucking clwonshoes, and as someone hwo used to do IT for 9 years it pains me to see them fbe so terriuble

Luigi Thirty posted:

Doom is just not the same without 1990s Satanic panic design. Like when I play it I want to feel like I'm in one of those videotapes about how Satanic cults are going to totally murder your children and burn down your house, honest, really.

:agreed:
I just can't get into Doom mood unless I can roleplay as Varg Vikernes.

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes
Did you guys miss all the charred bodies and skeletons in the Hell video?

Ball Cupper
Sep 10, 2011

~beautiful in my own way~

nexus6 posted:

Did you guys miss all the charred bodies and skeletons in the Hell video?

Yes because everything's the same colour

SavageMessiah
Jan 28, 2009

Emotionally drained and spookified

Toilet Rascal

SilentW posted:

:agreed:
I just can't get into Doom mood unless I can roleplay as Varg Vikernes.

b-b-b-but Varg is a pagan! :goonsay:

Douk Douk
Mar 17, 2009

Take your pervert war elsewhere.

nexus6 posted:

Did you guys miss all the charred bodies and skeletons in the Hell video?

The whole point of hell though is that people there are suffering for eternity and goddamn it I need my wiggling impaled men on a stick and hung corpses still kicking and jerking so I can shoot them for powerups.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

SavageMessiah posted:

b-b-b-but Varg is a pagan! :goonsay:

Also a convicted murderer, arsonist, racist, and terrorist. Which I guess does make him great inspiration for playing and supporting Brutal Doom.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Arivia posted:

Also a convicted murderer, arsonist, racist, and terrorist. Which I guess does make him great inspiration for playing and supporting Brutal Doom.

Doesn't this mean you're problematic by association for liking something by John Carmack

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

Ball Cupper posted:

Yes because everything's the same colour

:drat: It's true.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Luigi Thirty posted:

Doom is just not the same without 1990s Satanic panic design. Like when I play it I want to feel like I'm in one of those videotapes about how Satanic cults are going to totally murder your children and burn down your house, honest, really.

This is probably the best way to explain my issues with what they've shown so far. It's just not weird enough.

I think there's a part when you take the elevator down to the cyberdemon (who should really be composed of diesel machines not future tech) in Doom 3 and there's a twitching upside down corpse impaled in the wall or something and it actually felt like a "Doom" moment.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jun 17, 2015

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.





I was listening to a movie podcast a while ago where they pointed out how, for about the last decade, pop culture has determined that the scariest thing a monster can be is feral. All these unique movie monsters are slowly turning into the same snarling, ripped, wild-eyed, uncoordinated humanoid.

That's not entirely the case here but, dammit, I miss my goat heads :(

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Zaphod42 posted:

So... Timesplitters? :cheeky:

gently caress Timesplitters was so good and doesn't get enough love.

No, because it'd be on PC, not a platform I didn't pick up until you could get the hardware cheaper than most of the games.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Luigi Thirty posted:

Doom is just not the same without 1990s Satanic panic design. Like when I play it I want to feel like I'm in one of those videotapes about how Satanic cults are going to totally murder your children and burn down your house, honest, really.

I came across some art recently that really loving inspired me:

http://imgur.com/gallery/qk8Q2 Beksinki

https://waynebarlowe.wordpress.com/artwork/hell/ Barlowe

You could very easily take either of those as inspiration and make a loving baller as poo poo Doom game. Barlowe in particular gets really deep into his own fictional Hell world, he details buildings and social systems and different species living in hell and all KINDS of loving brilliant wicked evil alien satanic poo poo.

I mean loving look at this:


But of course we can't have anything nearly that artistic in commercial videogames.
Although, I think Dark Souls took some clear inspiration from Beksinki and may be part of what makes Dark Souls so creepy and unique and cool.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jun 18, 2015

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Which is scarier?

Doom 4 cyberdemon

or this:



:stonk:

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
I think you're honestly expecting too much out of dumb demon shot game on Mars.

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh
It doesn't have to be evocative Beksinki poo poo but one of the simpler things that many of those paintings understand far better than Doom 4 is color contrast.

You don't have everything tinted brown.



Bright blues and reds on grey. It pops.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
I just want another game that has Hexen's art style, goddamnit.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

IronicDongz posted:

It doesn't have to be evocative Beksinki poo poo but one of the simpler things that many of those paintings understand far better than Doom 4 is color contrast.

You don't have everything tinted brown.



Bright blues and reds on grey. It pops.

See and that reminds me of the original Doom's palette.

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