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bull3964 posted:That's all it ever was, they're just upfront about it now. This is a great post and I really wish Google would tell OEMs to gently caress off and make Android a Google only affair.
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bull3964 posted:A lot of them would be resolved by manufacturers opening up their own stores. I just had a fantastic experience with Microsoft. My SP3 was having an issue with the LCD and even though I had owned it for 11 months and originally bought it at best buy, they swapped it out at the Microsoft store in the mall no questions asked with a new unit. Just think, if you bought a Lumia, you could do the same thing with your phone. I didn't realize there was such a thing as a Microsoft store.
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bull3964 posted:Really, carriers just need to get out of the hardware business altogether. You don't walk into a Comcast location and buy a TV to watch your programming on, there's really no reason why the same should be happening with phones right now. It's a holdover of a legacy sales model before cell phones were commodity electronics and it's also being driven by carriers wanting to minimize the friction people have with service. Carriers hate the idea of being a dumb pipe though. Just look at comcast buying NBCU and Verizon buying aol.
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Mooktastical posted:So goons, my family has a Verizon contract that's up for upgrade some time next month. What 'free' phone should I recommend? Droid Turbos for all? The Turbo is a fantastic phone all-around, so yes. Only two areas I'd ding it for against Galaxy S6 is camera quality and the lack of fingerprint scanner (it's an unqualified plus now that it's not a finicky swipe button like the S5/Note4), and makes up for it with another 50% of battery life. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 19:28
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Samsung has area's in Best Buy's that are actually pretty drat helpful if you have a Samsung device like the vast majority of Android users do. I used to work in the SAMSUNG EXPERIENCE SHOP as a consultant, pretty good gig that was pretty fun. Got to try out the new devices a few weeks early and the sales training wasn't half bad for retail. Best Buy has actually been doing a lot better in the last year or two.
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Jun 17, 2015 20:10
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RZA Encryption posted:I really wish Google would tell OEMs to gently caress off and make Android a Google only affair. Why? How would that affect your Google experience in any way?
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Jun 17, 2015 20:22
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Desk Lamp posted:Why? How would that affect your Google experience in any way? You know all those things apple does better? Google could start doing them that way, too.
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RZA Encryption posted:You know all those things apple does better? Google could start doing them that way, too.
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Jun 17, 2015 20:46
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The Merkinman posted:Yeah, Apple devices never have security vulnerabilities The point is that Apple has iron-fist control over updates for iOS. There's no OEM influence to gently caress things up.
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Jun 17, 2015 20:49
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RZA Encryption posted:You know all those things apple does better? Google could start doing them that way, too. How are OEMs preventing Google from doing so?
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Desk Lamp posted:How are OEMs preventing Google from doing so? Google can't push updates to OEM devices. Carriers are in the way too.
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Super Dude posted:Google can't push updates to OEM devices. Carriers are in the way too. Even play store devices can get blocked by carriers.
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Super Dude posted:Google can't push updates to OEM devices. Carriers are in the way too. Again, how does OEMs existing affect Nexus devices? There's nothing stopping Google OR OEMs from providing a more Apple like experience except themselves. Carriers are an obstacle, but not an insurmountable one.
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Jun 18, 2015 00:18
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bronin posted:Yeah but only SwiftKey on Samsung phones is affected so I guess Samsung hosed it up somehow. From the analysis I've seen: Basically SwiftKey had (has?) a problem in that it insecurely downloads archives that contain language info. One could probably use that to change all completion to be obscenity or something like that. Bad, but not horrible. However, Samsung installed the keyboard with ultra-high "System" privileges (which it hardly needs), with which it turns out it can be tricked into overwriting some system services with arbitrary dangerous code.
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Jun 18, 2015 00:27
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OddObserver posted:However, Samsung installed the keyboard with ultra-high "System" privileges (which it hardly needs), with which it turns out it can be If this allows root and unlocking bootloaders on KNOX'ed devices, that'd be hilarious.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Just think, if you bought a Lumia, you could do the same thing with your phone. Not entirely true. I bought a Lumia 1520 and had issues with my display and they didn't do anything for me other than telling me to send it to Nokia to get it evaluated and possibly fixed. They only provide the great service on the phones if you buy their extended warranty.
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Which phone was it that typing anywhere was sending terminal commands
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azurite posted:If this allows root and unlocking bootloaders on KNOX'ed devices, that'd be hilarious. That's not how Knox works, Knox devices have an "efuse" chip that will burn if the bootloader is altered, etc. Even if you manage to boot into an OS at that point, your device will be unusable on an EMM platform, thus ensuring the corporate security side of things.
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I've always wondered about KNOX and all that stuff are the Galaxy phones just not able to be rooted with custom roms and stuff or what? I've never paid much attention to Samsung's phones (funny now considering I have an S6) but are is the S5 or S4 just not able to have CM on it or something? E. I know it's a dumb question probably but I'm really curious.
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Skeezy posted:I've always wondered about KNOX and all that stuff are the Galaxy phones just not able to be rooted with custom roms and stuff or what? I've never paid much attention to Samsung's phones (funny now considering I have an S6) but are is the S5 or S4 just not able to have CM on it or something? Full disclosure: the last phone I rooted was a Nexus 4 so I might be talking out of my rear end. As I understand it Knox doesn't prevent you from rooting or installing custom roms, it just trips a big flag that makes it undeniably obvious that you did so. Primarily meant to allow enterprise clients to issue company Galaxy phones knowing that if any of their employees modify the phone they will know, which would hopefully keep them from trying. Of course, this has the side effect* of providing customer support for regular consumers with a way to know the device was "illegally" modified thus discouraging consumers from doing so out of fear of losing their warranty coverage. *Considered a big plus by everyone on the corporate side I'm sure.
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RZA Encryption posted:This is a great post and I really wish Google would tell OEMs to gently caress off and make Android a Google only affair. I took that post to be neutral towards OEM's and opposed to carrier intervention. How did you not? Regardless, do you think any bad repercussions would occur from that? I don't know, like maybe the platform as a whole going the way of the BlackBerry? What would stop Samsung from bringing Tizen to the states? What could outweigh that? RZA Encryption posted:You know all those things apple does better? Google could start doing them that way, too. I know just what you mean. Apple's hardware adoption rate dwarfs Androids, always has, and for the foreseeable future, always will. Eliminating the OEM's and pursuing a walled garden approach to everything would surely make Google competitive, it should just do that!
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Mooktastical posted:What would stop Samsung from bringing Tizen to the states? What could outweigh that? Even here in Korea, nobody uses Tizen. Tizen is not A Thing and is never going to be.
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Mooktastical posted:What would stop Samsung from bringing Tizen to the states? The lack of an ecosystem. The same barrier to entry that Windows Phone and anything else faces.
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Was doing some random Googling to find out some more details on the Nexus 5 2015. All of the rumored features look super cool but I'm dreading the price tag that is going to come with it. It looks like it's just going to become a player with the big boys rather than a stripped back reference machine.
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Desk Lamp posted:Full disclosure: the last phone I rooted was a Nexus 4 so I might be talking out of my rear end. Basically yeah. I've been researching KNOX a ton since I'm hoping to deploy it at work, basically Samsung has intelligently come to the conclusion that they can't find every way to stop people from rooting/unlocking/flashing/etc, they will just make it so that if/when you do, you cannot use your device as a KNOX EMM connected phone. Which from my corporate standpoint, is loving great. I would never recommend these for a personal phone though.
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xcore posted:Was doing some random Googling to find out some more details on the Nexus 5 2015. All of the rumored features look super cool but I'm dreading the price tag that is going to come with it. It looks like it's just going to become a player with the big boys rather than a stripped back reference machine.
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xcore posted:Was doing some random Googling to find out some more details on the Nexus 5 2015. All of the rumored features look super cool Actually considering it's being rumored to use the Snapdragon 810 I'd say it looks super hot.
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LastInLine posted:Actually considering it's being rumored to use the Snapdragon 810 I'd say it looks super hot.
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Seriously, you'd have to have brain damage from heat stroke to consider any device running an 810. Even Samsung took one look at it and called it poo poo. Samsung. Let that sink in.
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LastInLine posted:Seriously, you'd have to have brain damage from heat stroke to consider any device running an 810. Even Samsung took one look at it and called it poo poo. Samsung. Let that sink in. Most of the rumours claim that the 5.2 LG Nexus will use an 808 instead, with only the 5.7 Huawei using the 810. I'd definitely want the smaller one of those are the options.
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Tunga posted:Most of the rumours claim that the 5.2 LG Nexus will use an 808 instead, with only the 5.7 Huawei using the 810. I'd definitely want the smaller one of those are the options. The rumors I had read had those reversed although if I were a betting man I'd wager the LG will use whatever's in the G4 which is the 808. I don't really have a size preference, the N6 is big but every time I've gotten a larger device I've had no complaints. The 810 though is just bad, there's more than enough evidence to support that and I'd avoid anything with it out of hand.
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LastInLine posted:Seriously, you'd have to have brain damage from heat stroke to consider any device running an 810. Even Samsung took one look at it and called it poo poo. Samsung. Let that sink in. I just saw that the next OnePlus will use an 810. It's nice to start the day with a hearty laugh.
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LastInLine posted:Seriously, you'd have to have brain damage from heat stroke to consider any device running an 810. Even Samsung took one look at it and called it poo poo. Samsung. Let that sink in. Qualcomm got Samsung'd.
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FistEnergy posted:I just saw that the next OnePlus will use an 810. It's nice to start the day with a hearty laugh. Apparently a newer, less burny version of it
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Rusty! posted:Apparently a newer, less burny version of it I don't know which to laugh at and trust less: the 810, or the OnePlus RMA process.
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On the topic of how bad the customer service/RMA procedure is on the OPO, guess who just bought a OPO! For those that have it, is it preferable to leave it running CM11s or to upgrade to CM12? I see a lot of posts elsewhere about people downgrading from 12 to 11, and giant flashing red warning signs against even thinking about loving with OxygenOS, so should I just stick with what I have? Battery life would be my biggest consideration.
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flashy_mcflash posted:On the topic of how bad the customer service/RMA procedure is on the OPO, guess who just bought a OPO! CM12 isn't stable/good yet, like 8 months after Lollipop was released, and 12 since the L preview? Why bother with CM if you aren't using it to stay updated?
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