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Man the sons of confederate veterans would be devastated right now if any of them could read.
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KilroyWasHere posted:Thomas! Holy crap! Wanna read that opinion I wonder if Thomas shits on Scalia again?
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Jun 18, 2015 15:24
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Looks like more good than bad today? All the lovely justices had unanimous opinions for the most part...
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Is Kennedy dissenting because he thinks states should be compelled to carry forced-birther license plates against their objections? E: note, I haven't read any of the opinions, this is just a shot in the dark and it'd be funny if I was right. E2: I don't see specific commentary by Kennedy but  Scalito, Dissenting posted:Pressed to come up with any evidence that the State has FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Jun 18, 2015 15:25
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DOOP posted:Wanna read that opinion He joined with Breyer on the Majority opinion, which Breyer wrote.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:25
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DOOP posted:Wanna read that opinion http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-144_758b.pdf Breyer wrote the majority, Alito wrote the dissent
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Jun 18, 2015 15:28
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:He joined with Breyer on the Majority opinion, which Breyer wrote. I'm honestly surprised Thomas didn't write that one, rather than Reed.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:28
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KilroyWasHere posted:I'm honestly surprised Thomas didn't write that one, rather than Reed. "This justice holds, as a black man,  "
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Jun 18, 2015 15:30
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Dissent is good for a few giggles.quote:
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-144_758b.pdf
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Jun 18, 2015 15:31
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Alito's dissent in that case seems at least fun.quote:Suppose you sat by the side of a Texas highway and studied the license plates on the vehicles passing by. You would see, in addition to the standard Texas plates, an impressive array of specialty plates. (There are now more than 350 varieties.) You would likely observe plates that honor numerous colleges and universities. You might see plates bearing the name of a high school, a fraternity or sorority, the Masons, the Knights of Columbus, the Daughters of the American Revolution, a realty company, a favorite soft drink, a favorite burger restaurant, and a favorite NASCAR driver.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:33
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Rather Be Golfing = RBG Hmmmmmmmmm
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Jun 18, 2015 15:33
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Walker v Texas Sons of Confederate Veterans. No see this is the outcome Texas wanted. I think it just confused everyone when Texas was arguing maybe we should be a little less racist with our license plates.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:35
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A state not minding a sports team on its license plate is exactly the same as a state not minding the Nazi flag on its plate, all right.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:36
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Ok which sperg on the bench had to list like every novelty plate in the history of novelty plates?
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Jun 18, 2015 15:36
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Ok which sperg on the bench had to list like every novelty plate in the history of novelty plates?
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Jun 18, 2015 15:37
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Grey Fox posted:Rather Be Golfing = RBG I would do unconscionable things for a Ruth Bader Ginsburg license plate.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:37
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VitalSigns posted:A state not minding a sports team on its license plate is exactly the same as a state not minding the Nazi flag on its plate, all right. 
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Jun 18, 2015 15:38
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^^^^Haha, touche. quote:What if a state college or university did the same thing with a similar billboard or a campus bulletin board or dorm list serve? What if it allowed private messages that are consistent with prevailing views on campus but banned those that disturbed some students or faculty? Why doesn't UT allow billboards of burning crosses on campus, my free speech 
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Jun 18, 2015 15:40
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I did enjoy the listing of Texas novelty plates. My favorites are the Dr. Pepper one and the one that appears to be a chicken sandwich.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:41
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Yes, what if universities do that thing they always do?
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Jun 18, 2015 15:42
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:He joined with Breyer on the Majority opinion, which Breyer wrote. Right But wasn't the Thomas-Scalia slapfight from a week ago due to some weird partial-concurrence Thomas wrote that was good enough for a majority
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Jun 18, 2015 15:42
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DOOP posted:Right Yes. He just didn't write on one this for some reason. There was a good a Scalia-Alito slap fight today though.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:44
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Kennedy wrote a concurrence on Davis v Ayala solely to talk about how bad solitary confinement is; Thomas wrote his own one-page concurrence just to say that he doesn't give a poo poo
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Jun 18, 2015 15:47
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I like the Alito dissent in Cain.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:56
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Scalia and RBG getting together for the confrontation clause slap fight with Alito is pretty good.
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Jun 18, 2015 15:57
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But a confederate plate isn't the same as "rather be golfing," it's "rather be owning slaves."
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Jun 18, 2015 17:07
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How can a state refuse a battle flag plate and not also have the discretion to refuse pro/anti abortion ones under this logic? Rather be owning women and or fetuses, depending on some beaurucrat's interpretation.
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Jun 18, 2015 17:35
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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The dissent in brumfield is disturbing. The murdered cop's oldest son is former nfl player warrick Dunn. Thomas spends pages pointing out that dunn too was born into poverty, and he didn't murder anyone. It's disgusting.
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Jun 18, 2015 17:49
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:The dissent in brumfield is disturbing. The murdered cop's oldest son is former nfl player warrick Dunn. Thomas spends pages pointing out that dunn too was born into poverty, and he didn't murder anyone. It's disgusting. I was just going to post this exact thing. What a terrible dissent. I found it heartening that no one joined Thomas in part C, where he talks at length about the virtues of the victim's living son like you pointed out. But that optimism left when I realized that the 3 joined part D, where Thomas bemoans an intellectually disabled man's 20 year "ceaseless" campaign of review proceedings.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:01
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FAUXTON posted:But a confederate plate isn't the same as "rather be golfing," it's "rather be owning slaves." He's saying that the Confederate flag has no intrinsic speech value, which is such obvious bullshit. If it had been a Nazi flag vanity plate, Alito would have toddled his disingenuous rear end over to the majority right quick. Is it like a requirement that conservative justices have to be basically human filth?
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Jun 18, 2015 18:01
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mdemone posted:He's saying that the Confederate flag has no intrinsic speech value, which is such obvious bullshit. If it had been a Nazi flag vanity plate, Alito would have toddled his disingenuous rear end over to the majority right quick. I would have liked to see the case where it was an ISIS flag.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:04
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The Confederate flag is the symbol of a treasonous movement that resulted in more American casualties than any other war. I say let people display it, and then detain them and question them regarding the extent of their treasonous activity. Also if you have the stars and bars next to a "united we stand" bumper sticker you are either an idiot or a master troll.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:08
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When I first heard the facts about Ayala, I thought "how horrible!" But after reading the majority, I can't get past the fact that it took counsel seven loving years to file their first post conviction appeal. The criminal, who is probably guilty as hell, really had some poo poo lawyers. First not objecting to all the ex parte batson hearings, and then sitting for years on an appeal. I know we'd like to think that SCOTUS can look past that kind of stuff and decide on the merits alone, but they're all people. Certainly reading that procedural history would bias you (wrongly) against the defendant. Where's the drat IAC claim in all this?
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ActusRhesus posted:The Confederate flag is the symbol of a treasonous movement that resulted in more American casualties than any other war. I say let people display it, and then detain them and question them regarding the extent of their treasonous activity. How many of those have I seen on base...
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VitalSigns posted:I would have liked to see the case where it was an ISIS flag. Form a non profit, submit this flag. Then watch as the feds prosecute you for giving support and advice to a terrorist organization.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:10
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ActusRhesus posted:The Confederate flag is the symbol of a treasonous movement that resulted in more American casualties than any other war. I say let people display it, and then detain them and question them regarding the extent of their treasonous activity. We do let people display it, that wasn't the issue. It's always been and will always be completely legal to display the Confederate flag.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:11
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:
Apparently any IAC was harmless 
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Jun 18, 2015 18:14
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mdemone posted:I don't know nothin' about this case, but as the parent of a toddler, Just to clarify, the case wasn't about whether a three year old can serve as a witness, it was about whether the toddler's out of court statement (that he was abused) could be admitted in court, without requiring the toddler to actually appear in court as a witness and be cross examined (which is usually required by the confrontation clause). The court unanimously held that it could be, basically because the statement was not testimonial, so the child was not a witness, and therefore the statement did not implicate the confrontation clause. As others have pointed out, there's a great slapfight between Scalia's concurrance (joined by RBG) and Alito's majority. Basically, Alito hates Crawford v. Washington, and repeatedly tries to undermine it throughout his opinion (and this isn't the first time he's made his disagreement known). Scalia takes him to task. Scalia posted:I write separately, however, to protest the Courts shoveling of fresh dirt upon the Sixth Amendment right of confrontation so recently rescued from the grave in Crawford v. Washington.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:47
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Relevant to Walker v. Sons: Guess who's Charleston car sports a CSA license plate.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Apparently he has one more... Really? Who's left with decisions?
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