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GutBomb posted:So it's okay to judge people for past behavior when they are white and wear racist badges and have a confederate license plate, but it's not okay to judge people for past behavior when there are pictures of them doing gang signs etc... This isn't judging someone for past behavior as much as it is gathering evidence of intent. It's akin to that guy who murdered those two NYC cops back in December posting his intention to kill cops and pictures of the gun he used to do so on Facebook.
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I guess the easier way to say it is: I can find you millions of kids who twist their fingers in fb pictures and listen to rap who aren't harboring secret cop killing fantasies, whereas Im not so sure I could find a lot of kids who wear very specific Apartheid flags on their jackets who don't harbor anti-black sentiments. Edit: also there are crimes committed everyday by rap fans with "gang sign" pictures in their profiles where its never mentioned. Because its only relevant when people want it to be. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:"gang signs"* and rap music have no direct correlation to what black kids like tamir rice and mike brown are accused of. Apartheid and confederate battle flags have a very direct connection to actual racist violence. *ahem* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_vmQrTi3aM
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Jun 18, 2015 18:48
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gutbomb's head is forever on the swivel for youths doing gangster rap poses with malicious intent
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Jun 18, 2015 18:51
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MaxxBot posted:You're directly comparing pictures of someone displaying rabid racism to someone's fashion choices, do you realize how ridiculous that is? Flipping off the camera? Really? I guess that means like half of all teens of any race with an instagram account are murderers. Nowhere did I say Trayvon or Michael brown were dangerous or murderers based on those pictures. I said they are percieved by some people as dangerous or murderers based on those pictures. Rhesus Pieces posted:This isn't judging someone for past behavior as much as it is gathering evidence of intent. It's akin to that guy who murdered those two NYC cops back in December posting his intention to kill cops and pictures of the gun he used to do so on Facebook. Understood. The racists who defend zimmerman see non-existent intent in the photos of Trayvon Martin too. I'm not saying the intent doesn't exist in this case, but they are just as convinced of the intentin that case as we are in this one.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:51
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i perceive you to be stupid
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paranoid randroid posted:i perceive you to be stupid Congratulations then. Enjoy your politics as team sport.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:53
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GutBomb posted:Badges and a license plate are literally fashion choices. I'd perceive him as dangerous or a murderer for stating that he killed those people because they were black. But then again 
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Jun 18, 2015 18:53
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i mean when you think about it, twisting up your fingers is basically equivalent to a 1488 tattoo
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GutBomb posted:Badges and a license plate are literally fashion choices. Fashion choices for racists in this case. Are you really this dense, or is this some kind of schtick?
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Jun 18, 2015 18:54
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GutBomb posted:Congratulations then. Enjoy your politics as team sport. No, I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with you being an unbelievable idiot.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:55
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I like how he's equivocating a mass murderer and a homicide victim.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:56
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GutBomb posted:Congratulations then. Enjoy your politics as team sport. Those two things are radically different as has been explained several times, it's not team sport politics. Trying to say that pointing out a racist murderer has very specific racist iconography (who the hell casually wears Apartheid South African emblems?) in photographs is the same as a media campaign of creating an impression that a black murder victim is actually the real aggressor based on gang signs or looking mad at the camera is preposterous.
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Spun Dog posted:Fashion choices for racists in this case. Are you really this dense, or is this some kind of schtick? Im not buying it, nobody is that dense.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:57
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GutBomb posted:Congratulations then. Enjoy your politics as team sport. cool ill be over here on the team that wears helmets and doesnt fill the water cooler with paint
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Jun 18, 2015 18:57
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A Bad King posted:Just so that everybody remembers, Carly Fiorina was only the third worst CEO of HP's corporate history. revenue should be funding reinvestment in the business. HP is a huge company and it spends a poo poo ton of money. R&D, payroll, land, machinery, etc etc. too much profit in a huge company means something is wrong and things will be going tits up in the near future.
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Jun 18, 2015 18:58
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sudo rm -rf posted:I like how he's equivocating a mass murderer and a homicide victim. The truth must be somewhere in the middle.
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paranoid randroid posted:i mean when you think about it, twisting up your fingers is basically equivalent to a 1488 tattoo Wow, way to stigmatize people with 1488 tattoos dude, it's just a fashion choice.
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sudo rm -rf posted:I like how he's equivocating a mass murderer and a homicide victim. Homicide victim, but potential future murderer.
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Jun 18, 2015 19:00
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GutBomb posted:Badges and a license plate are literally fashion choices. I'm pretty sure this kid did something other than wear a badge or put a plate on his car to make us think he has racist murderous intent. We aren't trying to read the mind of a corpse, we're trying to read the mind of someone being widely reported as responsible for 9 deaths with witnesses quoted as saying "youre raping our women". Extremely different situations.
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Jun 18, 2015 19:02
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People trolled through trayvon and mike browns FB profiles to prop up hypothetical situations and assassinate their character. Right now people are doing it to understand an ACTUAL situation and the kid already took care of the character part.
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Jun 18, 2015 19:05
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So would a tattoo of "I hate niggers, 666" be considered a fashion choice, or just misunderstood? I mean it's only been like 3 hours since the guy was caught, and I know more of the story is going to come out of the woodwork, but at first glance he really does seem to have some serious racial intent behind the murders.
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Jun 18, 2015 19:05
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Oh great, somebody called in a bomb threat during the prayer vigil at the church where the shootings happened. http://www.wyff4.com/news/upstate-church-evacuated-during-prayer-vigil-due-to-bomb-threat/33652016 The stupidity of people in my state knows no bounds...
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Jun 18, 2015 19:08
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gutbomb, upon being presented with proof that his wife is conducting an affair - "well lets not jump to conclusions. after all, I too am sleeping with a married woman"
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Jun 18, 2015 19:09
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WoodrowSkillson posted:revenue should be funding reinvestment in the business. HP is a huge company and it spends a poo poo ton of money. R&D, payroll, land, machinery, etc etc. too much profit in a huge company means something is wrong and things will be going tits up in the near future. Half of those don't affect revenue, at least not directly. Low profitability limits growth since the acquisition of new assets comes from earnings, not expenses.
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Jun 18, 2015 19:09
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I'm really glad that our old apartheid era flag was an ugly piece of poo poo, so there's absolutely no reason to wear it or fly it unless you're a dumb racist. The new flag is so kickass 
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Jun 18, 2015 19:11
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Intel&Sebastian posted:People trolled through trayvon and mike browns FB profiles to prop up hypothetical situations and assassinate their character. Yes, but have you considered that both sides.....are the same??
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Jun 18, 2015 19:13
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GutBomb posted:A lot of criticism of the right wing media has centered around how it's not fair to judge Trayvon Martin based on earlier photos of him. The first thing trotted out with this are old photos of this guy. Same loving thing. haha its always great when idiot goons out themselves "look, if we can look at the guy with rhodesia and confederate stuff and assume he's a racist, why can't we look at the guy with gold teeth making gestures at the camera and assume he's a drug dealing murderer? hypocrites" lmao what a retard
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Jun 18, 2015 19:13
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hm... this kid has Protocols of the Elders of Zion among his interests... this other kid likes 50 Cent. i think they're about equivalent
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Jun 18, 2015 19:15
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Idk, trotting out old photos of this white kid who was murdered while unarmed and walking home at night with some candy to prove he was on a secret crime spree seems pretty hosed up, you lefitst hypocrites.
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Jun 18, 2015 19:17
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I don't even know why I treated that seriously. You should be judged and have your fb page trolled through if you kill 9 people. You shouldn't have that done if you are killed in suspicious circumstances. End of story. Its the difference in looking back for signs of why you are a piece of poo poo, and looking back for signs that will let me call you a piece of poo poo. The two arent comparable in any way.
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quote:@DewsNewz: #DylannRoof 19 of 82 Facebook friends were black, #hatecrime ? @PrisonPlanet @infowars @RealAlexJones @MikaelThalen Literally "  but he had black friends! "
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Jun 18, 2015 19:18
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Pretty sure they trolled and backed off when the piling started so now we are just arguing at a brick wall.
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Jun 18, 2015 19:18
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nah it's cool, storm roof was just a backwoods white 21 year old with a deep fascination with the history of african decolonialization. there's no way you could read any racial element into it unless you are the real racist
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Jun 18, 2015 19:20
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Oh he had black friends, well I guess he didn't shoot up a black church and kill 9 people then, thanks twitter
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Jun 18, 2015 19:20
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Gravel Gravy posted:Pretty sure they trolled and backed off when the piling started so now we are just arguing at a brick wall. i dont think gutbomb was trolling, i think they had a sincere but dumb point that was argued extremely poorly
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Jun 18, 2015 19:22
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How do they know all his black friends weren't ones of the good ones?
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Jun 18, 2015 19:23
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VitalSigns posted:Oh he had black friends, well I guess he didn't shoot up a black church and kill 9 people then, thanks twitter No, no, no, it just means it was okay for him to do it and now we can just move on and forget about this whole thing.
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 quote:@DRUDGE_REPORT: Taking SSRI drugs? http://t.co/NGS6Hv3ZuG It's amazing watching the spin and obfuscation happen in real time exactly as I envisioned. "It HAS to be something besides the racism he acted upon but we're all thinking! It just HAS to!"
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