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mooyashi posted:I'm glad that the state with the first primary has a total population roughly equivalent to the number of people living in poverty in the Chicago Metro Area Yeah but we also have kick-rear end antiques, and Bernie seems like the kind of guy I could go into a thrift store with and have a good haggle.
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GalacticAcid posted:Jacobin's online stuff is mostly poo poo. They're more scrupulous about what goes into the print publication. Most of their pieces on education or urban infrastructure are valuable, other topics are not as strong. I was subscribed for a year, didn't get a sense it was really worth the money or the read. It's meticulous leftist filler.
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Jun 18, 2015 22:34
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Bernie's campaign sends a fundraising request to their mailing list.
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Joementum posted:Bernie's campaign sends a fundraising request to their mailing list. Good on Bernie for calling it what it is: terrorism.
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Chris Lehmann's overview of the GOP candidates is now online at the London Review of Books.quote:Of the dozen or so people who have declared or are thought likely to declare, every one can be described as a full-blown adult failure. On Jeb! posted:Jeb has dined out for most of his career on his image as the clever Bush brother, but as his quasi-campaign heated up and the press started to ask questions about actual policies, he immediately undermined this unearned plaudit by saying he would have followed to the letter George’s catastrophic decision to invade and occupy Iraq. After realising that this was a position now seen as insane even by most Republicans, he tried to retreat from it with a series of flailing clarifications. burn posted:Bush’s long litany of failure merits close study both because, in spite of it all, he represents the sober, can-do face of executive GOP leadership, and because nearly every other candidate in the crowded Republican field recapitulates his slog into market mediocrity. Failure isn’t just an option for the vast company of Republican presidential hopefuls, it’s a well-trodden career path. On Rubio posted:In his 2012 autobiography, Rubio brushed off all this light-fingered expensing as the result of innocent inattention, and announced that he had arranged for all the improper charges to be repaid out of personal funds. But as Chris Ingram, a former Florida Republican political consultant, put it, ‘Marco Rubio has a well-established pattern of abusing other people’s money and lying about it.’ Not everybody is able to get away with this kind of financial misconduct. The former chair of the Florida Republicans, Jim Greer, made similarly free personal use of his party-issued credit card and served 15 months for money laundering. Greer claims that he faced judicial consequences for his spending trespasses only because he had backed Rubio’s opponent, Charlie Crist, in the 2010 Senate primary: ‘The leaders of the Republican Party of Florida chose to look the other way for the spending habits of certain individuals while at the same time accusing me.’ On Walker posted:But we are no doubt dwelling for too long on the lurid conduct of politics-cum-graft in Florida. Once you let your gaze wander from the corrupt centres of Sunshine State power, mini-Jeb Bushes abound. The governor of Wisconsin, Scott Walker, an early GOP contender thanks largely to his appeal among hardline conservative voters in Iowa (whose caucuses are the first major event in the nomination process), is another textbook case in adult failure. On Carly posted:Carly Fiorina is the field’s sole battle-tested emissary from the sacred world of business, and the most noteworthy entry on her résumé was getting dropped as CEO of Hewlett-Packard thanks to the dismal returns on her most aggressive market play: a merger with the computer giant Compaq. The episode did nothing to quench Fiorina’s seemingly inexhaustible thirst for humiliating failure: after a turn as an adviser with the 2008 McCain-Palin ticket, she challenged the vulnerable junior senator from California, Barbara Boxer, in the Republican-leaning 2010 election cycle, but was beaten by ten points after frittering away more than $6.5 million of her own money on the race. On Christie posted:Abject, operatically self-defeating cronyism, in short, is the Christie philosophy of governance – and it’s eloquent testimony to the lack of plausibly competent GOP candidates that a 2016 Christie presidential run hasn’t already been ruled out simply on the merits of the case against his petty and vindictive term in office. On Lindsey posted:In the demented GOP-orchestrated propaganda push for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Graham distinguished himself by asserting that Saddam Hussein was ‘flat-out lying’ about the non-existence of his actually non-existent arsenal of WMDs. Since then, Graham has not been chastened in any way by the many American failures in Iraq and Afghanistan. Indeed, he has specialised in the kind of baseless scaremongering that’s more suited to the voiceovers of movie trailers than the formulation of effective diplomacy; ‘The world is literally falling apart’ is a favourite Graham talk-show refrain. And the Graham-branded solution to spreading global chaos is always for the US to mount a new military intervention, basically anywhere it can think of: Iran, Syria, Libya and (what the hell) Isis, even though it doesn’t administer an actual state whose territory can be invaded. On Rand posted:Graham’s opposite number in the Republican world of diplomatic gamesmanship is the libertarian Rand Paul, another second-generation political scion in the Bush mould, who launched his ophthalmology practice in Kentucky by founding his own certifying board in order to evade the jackbooted thugs of the American Board of Ophthalmologists. His National Board of Ophthalmology (which despite its name operated only in Kentucky) was dissolved in 2011 after its dubious bona fides were exposed, but as recently as 2013 he continued to advertise his practice as ‘board-certified’. On Ben Carson posted:unlike Paul was able to establish a long-term practice affiliated with one of the most prestigious institutions in his field, the Johns Hopkins Medical School. The only problem, from the point of view of the Republican leadership, is that Carson’s demented Obama-vilifying hot takes – Obamacare was ‘the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery’ – are too extreme to gain a serious following even among the apocalyptic rank-and-file of today’s GOP. And the finale (this was published in the June 5 edition): Christmas in June posted:The best short-term hope for today’s Republican party is that Donald Trump will at last tender an official announcement that he’s running for president. .
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ElrondHubbard posted:Competitive primaries tend to be great at raising important issues for the base that would otherwise be overlooked in the rush to the middle during the general. However, I remain skeptical that Bernie really has much of a shot at being taken seriously even if he did win NH. The problem in New Hampshire for Bernie is that no matter what it'll be spun against him. If he over performs it's because he's from neighboring Vermont. If he under performs and Hillary wins by a wide margin, well then why couldn't even a native son win in New Hampshire. And of course if he some how manages to win NH, we'll hear all about how New Hampshire just likes to be contrarian and didn't want the contest to be over. Joementum posted:Bernie's campaign sends a fundraising request to their mailing list. I've received enough fundraising requests that Bernie was really starting to worry me until I scrolled down far enough to see he was asking you to give to someone else.
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Jun 19, 2015 02:31
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Gyges posted:The problem in New Hampshire for Bernie is that no matter what it'll be spun against him. If he over performs it's because he's from neighboring Vermont. If he under performs and Hillary wins by a wide margin, well then why couldn't even a native son win in New Hampshire. And of course if he some how manages to win NH, we'll hear all about how New Hampshire just likes to be contrarian and didn't want the contest to be over. Bernie is cool and all but the above narrative is because it's true.
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Candidate tracking for 6/16 and 6/17we Chris Christie was in New Haven, CT. It was a standard GOP fundraiser. Ben Carson was in Las Vegas o speak at a NALEO conference. He said “The reason I think we need to seal our borders completely ... is not so much because I am afraid of Honduras,” Carson said. “I am afraid of somebody from Syria.” That acronym stands for National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials. Ben also spoke at the University of Nevada. The link is a half hour of his speech. Ben headed down to TX to speak to [Success North Dallas. John Kasich was in Lansing and Mason, MI.. He maybe announcing soon. He went from MI to NH and courted some voters. Jeb Bush had his first town hall as an official candidate l in Derry, NH. He headed to Pella, IA for a meet and greet. It is part of a three day trip in IA. He canceled his Charleston, SC campaign stop. It was planned for next week. Trump says Jeb is 'an unhappy person'. Too bad Jeb is actually not a person. Mike Huckabee stopped in Creston, Red Oak, and Clarinda, IA. He talked about his favorite family. He may have lost the Jewish vote. We also found out he likes big band music and Glenn Miller Hillary Clinton made a few stops in South Carolina. She is in Nevada today speaking to NALEAO which I hope to find all the speech and post tomorrow. Just like Huckabee, she doesn't have the Jewish vote.. I think that is it for the last two days.
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Gyges posted:The problem in New Hampshire for Bernie is that no matter what it'll be spun against him. If he over performs it's because he's from neighboring Vermont. If he under performs and Hillary wins by a wide margin, well then why couldn't even a native son win in New Hampshire. And of course if he some how manages to win NH, we'll hear all about how New Hampshire just likes to be contrarian and didn't want the contest to be over. The problem with New Hampshire is that Bernie would still need to win a second state to be in as serious a contention as Newt Gingrich's 2012 book tour. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Bernie's gonna make for a good vice president.
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Yea I don't think Hillary's VP is going to be an old white man.
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Probably not. But I wouldn't be opposed to a Clinton/Sanders ticket.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Good on Bernie for calling it what it is: terrorism. Bernie has a great history of Civil Rights but people want to point out how he doesn't talk about civil rights issues. It makes my brain hurt.
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Star Man posted:Bernie's gonna make for a good vice president.
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Clinton/Biden obviously.
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If Castro isn't Hilary's VP pick and his being passed over isn't because actual skeletons were found in his closet, or he outright doesn't want to any higher office, I'd be surprised.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Clinton/Biden obviously. Move to establish Biden as Shadow Vice President for life.
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uncurable mlady posted:Move to establish Biden as Shadow Vice President for life. I wouldn't be surprised if he retired before the end of Obama's term, to be honest. He's barely keeping it together. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I wouldn't be surprised if he retired before the end of Obama's term, to be honest. He's barely keeping it together.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Yeah and then we don't have a VP until January 20th 2017. Setting the stage for President Boehner.
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computer parts posted:Setting the stage for President Boehner. I liked this situation better when John Goodman was the republican speaker.
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Evil Fluffy posted:If Castro isn't Hilary's VP pick and his being passed over isn't because actual skeletons were found in his closet, or he outright doesn't want to any higher office, I'd be surprised.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I wouldn't be surprised if he retired before the end of Obama's term, to be honest. He's barely keeping it together. The man's had as much family tragedy as the Kennedys. I don't think many politicians currently have the chops to keep fighting the good fight the way he does in spite of it all. I for real hope Trump becomes the front runner, because holy poo poo what a day that would be for the Republican party. I would assume any of the serious old brass still clinging to relevance would just off themselves right there
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Star Man posted:Probably not. But I wouldn't be opposed to a Clinton/Sanders ticket. Why would Sanders want Clinton to be his VP? Totally wrong policy direction there.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Yeah and then we don't have a VP until January 20th 2017. Or, we could go full Trollbama and get VP Clinton. Bill Clinton.
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Nessus posted:Why in God's name would the Democrats want to take a senator with seniority and experience out of the Senate and into the executive branch? Yeah, I can't think of the last time they pulled a senior senator away to be VP. And certainly not higher than Bernie's 37th.
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Gyges posted:Or, we could go full Trollbama and get VP Clinton. Bill Clinton. Gotta be eligible to assume the presidency in order to be eligible for the VP.
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Jun 19, 2015 07:07
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Ain't no rules says a dog can't play VP
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FAUXTON posted:Gotta be eligible to assume the presidency in order to be eligible for the VP. This is posted quite often but its actually an open constitutional question. The 22nd amendment only says you can't get elected to the office of the presidency more than twice and says nothing about becoming president by other means. So Clinton is technically eligible. But its more that the constitution is just a hot mess.
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A Bag of Milk posted:This is posted quite often but its actually an open constitutional question. The 22nd amendment only says you can't get elected to the office of the presidency more than twice and says nothing about becoming president by other means. So Clinton is technically eligible. But its more that the constitution is just a hot mess. However, the 12th Amendment states "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States".
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computer parts posted:However, the 12th Amendment states "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States". Right, "ineligible to the office" not "ineligible to be elected to the office". It could be argued that the 22nd amendment concerns the latter, not the former. That being said a) it would have to be settled by the Supreme Court and b) it's never, ever going to happen anyway.
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Daduzi posted:it's never, ever going to happen anyway.
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I'd like to see Michelle Obama given the VP nod so that we could have a Clinton/Obama ticket.
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mooyashi posted:Ain't no rules says a dog can't play VP
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Or we could not elect Clinton at all and take the good candidate instead.
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The Shortest Path posted:Or we could not elect Clinton at all and take the good candidate instead. Come on, just put on a smile and accept it. 
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Nah, how about you gently caress off.
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GalacticAcid posted:Chris Lehmann's overview of the GOP candidates is now online at the London Review of Books. *ecstasy* Again! Again! quote:But all this was as nothing compared to the most glorious moment in Jeb’s board-padding career. In 2007, he was appointed a consultant at Lehman Brothers. Nothing But Pleasure. 
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