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pram: Jun 10, 2001

MeruFM posted:

requirejs is when you have a bunch of scripts loaded on a website and you want to guarantee your own poo poo will be run after whatever library

browserify uses node's require("blah") import style and 'compiles' the javascript into a single file

this looks neat but the bower libs i use arent commonjs and using the browserify and vinyl plugins for gulp doesnt seem to be working right

cant wait for es6 modules because holy poo poo this nodejs rabbit hole is complete poo poo

# ? Jun 19, 2015 19:53

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# ? May 23, 2024 18:07

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

pointsofdata posted:

Is there something like linq in c++?

the STL is sort-of like linq but it doesn't quite work the same way. it still has all the same general functions though, has had since c++03, but it wasn't until lambdas showed up in c++11 that it started feeling like linq.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 19:55

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

pram posted:

this looks neat but the bower libs i use arent commonjs and using the browserify and vinyl plugins for gulp doesnt seem to be working right

cant wait for es6 modules because holy poo poo this nodejs rabbit hole is complete poo poo

if there was a flowchart, of all those different systems for dependancy management in js, every single one would end with "combine all files into single file", it seems

# ? Jun 19, 2015 19:55

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

iterators are kind of like IEnumerables but they have their own set of concepts. you can do really interesting things with them though, like you can write a function that wants to insert items into a container and then you can pass it an insertion iterator that has its own ideas about how items actually go into the container

# ? Jun 19, 2015 19:57

pram: Jun 10, 2001

the hosed up thing is there apparently used to be a browserify-gulp plugin that would automatically do all this stuff, but npm blacklisted it? lmao. too useful i guess

https://www.npmjs.com/package/gulp-browserify

# ? Jun 19, 2015 19:59

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

pram posted:

this looks neat but the bower libs i use arent commonjs and using the browserify and vinyl plugins for gulp doesnt seem to be working right

cant wait for es6 modules because holy poo poo this nodejs rabbit hole is complete poo poo

I had the same problem so I googled around and came up with this monstrocity for package.json

code:

{
  "name": "poop",
  "version": "0.0.1",
  "devDependencies": {
    "browser-sync": "^1.8.1",
    "browserify": "^3.41.0",
    "browserify-shim": "^3.8.3",
    "del": "^1.1.1",
    "fastclick": "^1.0.6",
    "gulp": "^3.8.11",
    "gulp-browserify": "^0.5.0",
    "gulp-flatten": "0.0.4",
    "gulp-imagemin": "^2.2.1",
    "gulp-jade": "^1.0.0",
    "gulp-load-plugins": "^0.5.1",
    "gulp-minify-css": "^1.0.0",
    "gulp-plumber": "^0.6.2",
    "gulp-rename": "^1.2.0",
    "gulp-rev": "^3.0.1",
    "gulp-rev-replace": "^0.4.0",
    "gulp-sass": "^1.3.3",
    "gulp-sourcemaps": "^1.5.1",
    "gulp-uglify": "~0.1.0",
    "gulp-util": "~2.2.12",
    "lodash": "^3.6.0",
    "main-bower-files": "^2.6.2",
    "marked": "~0.3.0",
    "moment": "^2.10.0",
    "run-sequence": "^1.0.2"
  },
  "browser": {
    "modernizr": "./bower_components/foundation/js/vendor/modernizr.js",
    "jquery": "./src/js/vendors/jquery-1.11.2.js",
    "jquery-placeholder": "./bower_components/jquery-placeholder/jquery.placeholder.js",
    "jquery-cookie": "./bower_components/jquery.cookie/jquery.cookie.js",
    "fastclick": "./bower_components/fastclick/lib/fastclick.js",
    "foundation": "./bower_components/foundation/js/foundation.js",
    "knockout": "./bower_components/knockout/dist/knockout.js",
    "d3": "./bower_components/d3/d3.js"
  },
  "browserify": {
    "transform": "browserify-shim"
  },
  "browserify-shim": {
    "modernizr": "Modernizr",
    "jquery": "$",
    "knockout": "ko",
    "d3": "d3"
  },
  "dependencies": {}
}

it lets me import d3, ko, $ like I would commonjs libs so jslint won't yell at me.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:28

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

pram posted:

this looks neat but the bower libs i use arent commonjs and using the browserify and vinyl plugins for gulp doesnt seem to be working right

cant wait for es6 modules because holy poo poo this nodejs rabbit hole is complete poo poo

node is garbage.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:29

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

pointsofdata posted:

Is there something like linq in c++?

https://cpplinq.codeplex.com/

although with concepts and ranges in the standard library (which may be in c++17) it will eventually be possible to compose STL algorithms in a way that will look a lot like linq

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:29

pram: Jun 10, 2001

MeruFM posted:

I had the same problem so I googled around and came up with this monstrocity for package.json

it lets me import d3, ko, $ like I would commonjs libs so jslint won't yell at me.

can i see your gulpfile?

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:33

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

pram posted:

can i see your gulpfile?

code:

'use strict';
var gulp = require('gulp');
// this is an arbitrary object that loads all gulp plugins in package.json.
var $ = require('gulp-load-plugins')();
var del = require('del');
var browserSync = require('browser-sync');
var reload = browserSync.reload;
var runSequence = require('run-sequence');

gulp.task('browser-sync-dev', function() {
  browserSync({
    server: {
      baseDir: "./dev"
    },
    open: false,
    port: 8081
  });
});

gulp.task('sass', function() {
  return gulp.src('./src/scss/main.scss')
    .pipe($.sass())
    .pipe($.minifyCss())
    .pipe($.rev())
    .pipe(gulp.dest('./dist/css'))
    .pipe($.rev.manifest("rev-css.json"))
    .pipe(gulp.dest('manifest'));
});

gulp.task('sass-dev', function() {
  return gulp.src('./src/scss/**/*.scss')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe($.sourcemaps.init())
      .pipe($.sass())
    .pipe($.sourcemaps.write())
    .pipe(gulp.dest('dev/css'));
});


gulp.task('js', function() {
  return gulp.src('src/js/app.js')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe( $.browserify())
    .pipe( $.uglify() )
    .pipe($.rev())
    .pipe( gulp.dest('dist/js/'))
    .pipe($.rev.manifest("rev-js.json"))
    .pipe(gulp.dest('manifest'));
});

gulp.task('js-dev', function() {
  return gulp.src('src/js/app.js')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe( $.browserify({
      debug: true
    }))
    .pipe( gulp.dest('dev/js/'));
});

gulp.task('images', function() {
  return gulp.src('./src/images/**/*')
    .pipe($.imagemin({
      progressive: true
    }))
    .pipe($.rev())
    .pipe(gulp.dest('./dist/images'))
    .pipe($.rev.manifest("rev-img.json"))
    .pipe(gulp.dest('manifest'));
});

gulp.task('images-dev', function() {
  return gulp.src('./src/images/**/*')
    .pipe(gulp.dest('./dev/images'));
});

gulp.task('templates', function() {
  var manifestCSS = gulp.src("./manifest/rev-css.json");
  var manifestJS = gulp.src("./manifest/rev-js.json");
  var manifestIMG = gulp.src("./manifest/rev-img.json");
  return gulp.src('src/**/*.jade')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe($.jade({
      pretty: false,
      debug: false,
      compileDebug: false
    }))
    .pipe($.revReplace({manifest: manifestCSS}))
    .pipe($.revReplace({manifest: manifestJS}))
    .pipe($.revReplace({manifest: manifestIMG}))
    .pipe( gulp.dest('dist/') );
});

gulp.task('templates-dev', function() {
  return gulp.src('src/**/*.jade')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe($.jade({
      pretty: true,
    }))
    .pipe( gulp.dest('dev/') );
});

gulp.task('build', function(){
  runSequence(['sass', 'js', 'images'],
              'templates');
});

gulp.task('build-dev', ['sass-dev', 'js-dev', 'templates-dev', 'images-dev']);

gulp.task('serve', function () {
  runSequence('build-dev', 'browser-sync-dev');
  gulp.watch('src/scss/**/*.{scss,sass}',['sass-dev', reload]);
  gulp.watch('src/js/**/*.js',['js-dev', reload]);
  gulp.watch('src/images/**/*',['images-dev', reload]);
  gulp.watch('src/**/*.jade',['templates-dev', reload]);
});

gulp.task('clean', function() {
  del('./dist');
  del('./dev');
  del('./manifest');
});

gulp.task('default', ['serve']);

MeruFM fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jun 19, 2015

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:34

pram: Jun 10, 2001

thanks

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:36

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

it's not perfect.

i think if the jade or sass is hosed up, it pops an error and you have to restart the server instead of auto-reloading the next time you change.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:39

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

what's a good book for learning modern c++ (I guess while also learning enough about "old" c++ to deal with real codebases)

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:45

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

MeruFM posted:

code:

'use strict';
var gulp = require('gulp');
// this is an arbitrary object that loads all gulp plugins in package.json.
var $ = require('gulp-load-plugins')();
var del = require('del');
var browserSync = require('browser-sync');
var reload = browserSync.reload;
var runSequence = require('run-sequence');

gulp.task('browser-sync-dev', function() {
  browserSync({
    server: {
      baseDir: "./dev"
    },
    open: false,
    port: 8081
  });
});

gulp.task('sass', function() {
  return gulp.src('./src/scss/main.scss')
    .pipe($.sass())
    .pipe($.minifyCss())
    .pipe($.rev())
    .pipe(gulp.dest('./dist/css'))
    .pipe($.rev.manifest("rev-css.json"))
    .pipe(gulp.dest('manifest'));
});

gulp.task('sass-dev', function() {
  return gulp.src('./src/scss/**/*.scss')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe($.sourcemaps.init())
      .pipe($.sass())
    .pipe($.sourcemaps.write())
    .pipe(gulp.dest('dev/css'));
});


gulp.task('js', function() {
  return gulp.src('src/js/app.js')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe( $.browserify())
    .pipe( $.uglify() )
    .pipe($.rev())
    .pipe( gulp.dest('dist/js/'))
    .pipe($.rev.manifest("rev-js.json"))
    .pipe(gulp.dest('manifest'));
});

gulp.task('js-dev', function() {
  return gulp.src('src/js/app.js')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe( $.browserify({
      debug: true
    }))
    .pipe( gulp.dest('dev/js/'));
});

gulp.task('images', function() {
  return gulp.src('./src/images/**/*')
    .pipe($.imagemin({
      progressive: true
    }))
    .pipe($.rev())
    .pipe(gulp.dest('./dist/images'))
    .pipe($.rev.manifest("rev-img.json"))
    .pipe(gulp.dest('manifest'));
});

gulp.task('images-dev', function() {
  return gulp.src('./src/images/**/*')
    .pipe(gulp.dest('./dev/images'));
});

gulp.task('templates', function() {
  var manifestCSS = gulp.src("./manifest/rev-css.json");
  var manifestJS = gulp.src("./manifest/rev-js.json");
  var manifestIMG = gulp.src("./manifest/rev-img.json");
  return gulp.src('src/**/*.jade')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe($.jade({
      pretty: false,
      debug: false,
      compileDebug: false
    }))
    .pipe($.revReplace({manifest: manifestCSS}))
    .pipe($.revReplace({manifest: manifestJS}))
    .pipe($.revReplace({manifest: manifestIMG}))
    .pipe( gulp.dest('dist/') );
});

gulp.task('templates-dev', function() {
  return gulp.src('src/**/*.jade')
    .pipe($.plumber())
    .pipe($.jade({
      pretty: true,
    }))
    .pipe( gulp.dest('dev/') );
});

gulp.task('build', function(){
  runSequence(['sass', 'js', 'images'],
              'templates');
});

gulp.task('build-dev', ['sass-dev', 'js-dev', 'templates-dev', 'images-dev']);

gulp.task('serve', function () {
  runSequence('build-dev', 'browser-sync-dev');
  gulp.watch('src/scss/**/*.{scss,sass}',['sass-dev', reload]);
  gulp.watch('src/js/**/*.js',['js-dev', reload]);
  gulp.watch('src/images/**/*',['images-dev', reload]);
  gulp.watch('src/**/*.jade',['templates-dev', reload]);
});

gulp.task('clean', function() {
  del('./dist');
  del('./dev');
  del('./manifest');
});

gulp.task('default', ['serve']);

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:46

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

fleshweasel posted:

what's a good book for learning modern c++ (I guess while also learning enough about "old" c++ to deal with real codebases)

"the c++ programming language, 4th edition" is pretty good. it's huge, but if you're just coming into the language it's super useful. written by stroustrup himself

# ? Jun 19, 2015 21:42

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

welp lol @ awful app

# ? Jun 19, 2015 21:43

VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

fleshweasel posted:

what's a good book for learning modern c++ (I guess while also learning enough about "old" c++ to deal with real codebases)

Dessert Rose posted:

"the c++ programming language, 4th edition" is pretty good. it's huge, but if you're just coming into the language it's super useful. written by stroustrup himself

This is excellent advice. I'll add that if you already know some C++ and just want to focus on the modern stuff, "Effective Modern C++" by Scott Meyers is pretty good too.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 21:58

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

is http://www.learncpp.com any good? seems like it's been kept up to date when the standards changed.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 22:09

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

Shaggar posted:

# ? Jun 19, 2015 22:45

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

i want a thing thats just like two columns. on the left, bad c-like way of doing thing in c++, on the right, idiomatic c++ way of doing thing in c++

# ? Jun 19, 2015 22:50

Ralith: Jan 12, 2011; I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

Just browse http://en.cppreference.com/w/ at random. It is a good reference.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 22:57

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

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Bloody posted:

i want a thing thats just like two columns. on the left, bad c-like way of doing thing in c++, on the right, idiomatic c++ way of doing thing in c++

VikingofRock posted:

"Effective Modern C++" by Scott Meyers is pretty good too.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:03

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

god dammit dessert you're almost making me want to learn cpp

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:06

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

St Evan Echoes posted:

god dammit dessert you're almost making me want to learn cpp

right? i'm too easily influenced by people hyping things in here.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:06

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

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St Evan Echoes posted:

god dammit dessert you're almost making me want to learn cpp

pick a project first then choose a toolset

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:10

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

coffeetable posted:

pick a project first then choose a toolset

this. please don't do stupid crap that is better expressed in a higher level language in c++.

like my coworker wrote a log parsing tool in cpp lol

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:32

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

if you have to do any extensive string bashing, c++ is probably not the language for you, unless you really need to do that with a file that's enormous (tens-hundreds of gb) or performance/memory critical

for example, a low-latency network message parser is probably well-suited for c++ for a variety of reasons

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:36

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

well if you do crazy expression template poo poo writing a parser in c++ can be kinda neat as you can write your grammar directly, with lambdas directly inserted in the middle to perform actions when specific grammar productions are encountered:

C++ code:

    auto InheritanceList =
        Term( ':' )
        && List( ClassRef >> AddSuperClass, ~Space & Term( ',' ) & ~Space );

    auto Property =
        String( "property") & Space & Type && ( Identifier | Error( "identifier expected." ) )
            >> AddProperty
        && ( Term( ';' ) | Error( "';' expected." ) );

    auto ConstructorName = DynRule( [&]{ return String( className ); } );

    auto MethodName =
        ( At( ConstructorName ) & Error( "invalid method name." ) )
        | ( Identifier >> [&]( const auto& r ){ functionName = RangeToStr( r ); } );

    auto StaticMethod =
        String( "static" )
        && ReturnType
        && MethodName
        && ParameterList
        && ( Term( ';' ) | Error( "';' expected." ) )
            >> [&]( const auto& r )
            {
                assert( pCurrentClass );
                assert( pCurrentPrototype );
                pCurrentClass->addStaticMethod( functionName, pCurrentPrototype );
            };

    auto Constructor =
        ConstructorName
        && ParameterList
        && ( Term( ';' ) | Error( "';' expected." ) )
            >> [&]( const auto& r )
            {
                assert( pCurrentClass );
                assert( pCurrentPrototype );
                pCurrentClass->addCtor( pCurrentPrototype );
            };

    auto Method =
        ReturnType
        && MethodName
        && ParameterList
        && ~( String( "const" )
            >> [&]( const auto& r )
            {
                assert( pCurrentPrototype );
                pCurrentPrototype->setConst();
            } )
        && ( Term( ';' ) | Error( "';' expected." ) )
            >> [&]( const auto& r )
            {
                assert( pCurrentClass );
                assert( pCurrentPrototype );
                pCurrentClass->addMethod( functionName, pCurrentPrototype );
            };

    auto ClassElement =
        Enum
        | Property
        | StaticMethod
        | Constructor
        | Method
        | FlagList;

    auto ClassContent = ~List( ClassElement, ~Space );

    auto Class =
        ~( TemplateParamList >> [&]( const auto& r ){ bTemplateClass = true; } )
        && String( "class" )
        && ( ( Identifier | Error( "identifier expected." ) )
            >= [&]( const auto& r ) { className = RangeToStr( r ); } )
            >> NewClass
        && ~( String( "in" ) && HeaderName >> SetClassHeader )
        && ~InheritanceList
        && ( Term( '{' ) | Error( "'{' expected." ) )
        && ClassContent
        && ( Term( '}' ) | Error( "'}' expected." ) )
        && ( ( Term( ';' ) | Error( "';' expected." ) )
            >= [&]( const auto& r ) { templateParamSet.clear(); } )
            >> AddClass;

the compilation time tends to get awful and every small compilation error turns into screen upon screens of ridiculously nested templates but its kinda fun to use

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:54

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

Zlodo posted:

well if you do crazy expression template poo poo writing a parser in c++ can be kinda neat as you can write your grammar directly, with lambdas directly inserted in the middle to perform actions when specific grammar productions are encountered:

the compilation time tends to get awful and every small compilation error turns into screen upon screens of ridiculously nested templates but its kinda fun to use

this is some stockholm syndrome poo poo

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:58

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

ragel is really neat for writing parsers imo

zlodos stuff is p much a DSL anyway so why not go whole hog?

# ? Jun 20, 2015 02:17

VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

Has anyone here used boost::spirit? If so, how is it?

# ? Jun 20, 2015 04:06

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Shaggar posted:

shaggar was right

# ? Jun 20, 2015 11:59

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

VikingofRock posted:

Has anyone here used boost::spirit? If so, how is it?

i think i read some internal google thing that strictly prohibits any use of it cuz apparently it encourages completely unmaintainable horse poo poo

# ? Jun 20, 2015 15:26

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

VikingofRock posted:

Has anyone here used boost::spirit? If so, how is it?

I tried it a while ago but it was before c++11 and i remember that it was pretty awkward without lambdas
its probably better now but meanwhile i tried https://github.com/ColinH/PEGTL and using nested templates to define rules instead of custom operators is really bad so i rolled my own expression template peg parsing thing (its not actually that hard)

its probably better to use a real parser generator but i only use it to parse a simple thing for a tool and i dont mind having a slightly worse syntax but have more flexibility in the way i interface my parser with the rest of my code

# ? Jun 20, 2015 15:37

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

AWWNAW posted:

i think i read some internal google thing that strictly prohibits any use of it cuz apparently it encourages completely unmaintainable horse poo poo

you sure they werent talking about Go?

# ? Jun 20, 2015 15:39

VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

AWWNAW posted:

i think i read some internal google thing that strictly prohibits any use of it cuz apparently it encourages completely unmaintainable horse poo poo

To be fair, you should probably take Google's C++ opinions with a grain of salt.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 20:22

Brain Candy: May 18, 2006

VikingofRock posted:

To be fair, you should probably take Google's C++ opinions with a grain of salt.

you are asking me to trust the angry opinions of somebody who self-describes as a "<language> programmer"

# ? Jun 20, 2015 20:35

pram: Jun 10, 2001

Valeyard posted:

you sure they werent talking about Go?

deep irony from captain python

# ? Jun 20, 2015 20:37

VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

Brain Candy posted:

you are asking me to trust the angry opinions of somebody who self-describes as a "<language> programmer"

His writing is bad but his points are all good.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 21:57

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# ? May 23, 2024 18:07

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

pram posted:

deep irony from captain python

it was a coin flip between saying python or go or anything else tbf

# ? Jun 20, 2015 22:00

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