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Friar Zucchini
Aug 6, 2010

Enourmo posted:

And they need to bring Photonicinduction in for electric car reviews.
"I popped it! ...Walp. Reckon we'll need a new Stig, eh?"

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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
The open audition thing is a painfully stupid gimmick that reeks of of desperation. "We need some press about the show that isn't overpoweringly negative, how about we turn the hiring process into a car-themed talent search shitshow?"


People fear new oval office is wrong kind of oval office, and co-oval office recruiting process is just a oval office publicity stunt. :bunt:

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

IOwnCalculus posted:

Switch Matt Farah for either 14 INCH or AvE, sold.

Oh man, he's like a for reals Red Green :swoon:

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

serious gaylord posted:

So its now come out that the BBC offered Clarkson his job back last week and he told them to get hosed.

So I guess that Netflix show is a go then.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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For James and Richard's sake I hope so. "You told them WHAT?"

AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

iM A ROOKiE RiGHT NOW BUT i PROMiSE YOU EVERY SiNGLE FUCKiN BiTCH ASS ARTiST WHO TRiES TO SHADE ME i WiLL VERBALLY DiSMANTLE YOUR ASSHOLE

serious gaylord posted:

So its now come out that the BBC offered Clarkson his job back last week and he told them to get hosed.

Where did you hear this? Has any one heard when THE LOST EPISODES will be shown

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
According to their Twitter accounts, May, Clarkson and Hammond are all headed to Norway for... some reason. What could be happening, I wonder?

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

AcidRonin posted:

Where did you hear this? Has any one heard when THE LOST EPISODES will be shown

Next sunday, I think. And it's just the two big challenges from the lost episodes edited into a single episode.

Symphoric
Apr 20, 2005


^^^ got beat! ^^

AcidRonin posted:

Where did you hear this? Has any one heard when THE LOST EPISODES will be shown

June 28th

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Keldoclock posted:

:frogout:

I mostly hope that the vacuum Top Gear produces will be filled by a diaspora of youtube or netflix based shows about cars, motorcycles, trucks, and road trips. The good poo poo is out there, it is just a question of finding it. Like our very own Becktastic's motoventuring series.

No, expensive fast cars suck because they where built to go fast.

Now cheap cars that where modified to go fast? :getin:

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

ratbert90 posted:

No, expensive fast cars suck because they where built to go fast.

Now cheap cars that where modified to go fast? :getin:

I think you really need a balance between all those elements. Personally, I don't much care for extensively modified cars as much as seeing supercars and crazy poo poo like the Ariel Atom. There's obviously people who feel the exact opposite. You need to make sure there's a little bit of everything: high-end supercars, absurd track toys, wacky projects, extensively modified cheap/used cars, etc. One of the main problems I have with most of the alternatives to Top Gear is that they focus too much (or, in the worst case, exclusively) on one of those specific areas, and frankly it just gets boring.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
Top gear eventually became a show where expensive cars did things i'm not interested in doing in a car. If a car costs 80,000, or 380,000, or 800,000. It doesnt matter becuase thats such a stupidly huge amount of money that the car might as well be completely CGI and have jet thrusters. Like someone watching a bad CGI action movie, it leaves me cold despite the crazy spectacle.


My best memories of "Top gear" are things like the RX8 test, the S2000 vs Z4 vs Boxster, the Opel Insignia vs Mazdaspeed 6. It doesnt need to be pedantic and boring and compare which hatchback gets the best MPG, but throwing in normal cars to keep things grounded made me enjoy the show more.

I suspect the hosts and producers didnt want that, having driven less than typical cars since before most of us were born. Something like a E63 AMG becomes "A practical sedan" and something like a fast honda or mazda is practically invisible.


The second anything said "Ferrari" or "AMG Black" i mentally sighed and hoped next week would be better.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jun 19, 2015

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
On the other hand, if I want to drive a Mazdaspeed 6, or a Mustang GT, or a BRZ, etc. , etc. I can go down to the dealership and take a test drive, and if I like it, buy or lease it. I can't do that, at least not yet, with a Ferrari or an AMG Black. The closest thing I could do is fly down to Vegas and pay a bunch of money to lap it around a track for half an hour.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

RillAkBea posted:

Oh man, he's like a for reals Red Green :swoon:

I lost it at "Keep your dick in a vice" instead of Red Green's "Keep your stick on the ice"

Scrambles
Jul 24, 2003

I WANT IT
Oh poo poo I didn't know that was from Red Green. AvE used to always end with that but has since uh adjusted it for comedy.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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MattD1zzl3 posted:

Top gear eventually became a show where expensive cars did things i'm not interested in doing in a car. If a car costs 80,000, or 380,000, or 800,000. It doesnt matter becuase thats such a stupidly huge amount of money that the car might as well be completely CGI and have jet thrusters. Like someone watching a bad CGI action movie, it leaves me cold despite the crazy spectacle.


My best memories of "Top gear" are things like the RX8 test, the S2000 vs Z4 vs Boxster, the Opel Insignia vs Mazdaspeed 6. It doesnt need to be pedantic and boring and compare which hatchback gets the best MPG, but throwing in normal cars to keep things grounded made me enjoy the show more.

I suspect the hosts and producers didnt want that, having driven less than typical cars since before most of us were born. Something like a E63 AMG becomes "A practical sedan" and something like a fast honda or mazda is practically invisible.


The second anything said "Ferrari" or "AMG Black" i mentally sighed and hoped next week would be better.

And yet on every single show where there was a Ferrari this or an AMG black that, there was also something like a personal mobility scooter challenge up a mountain or a sports train with SCUM CLASS.

KillerKatten
Oct 26, 2010

PT6A posted:

According to their Twitter accounts, May, Clarkson and Hammond are all headed to Norway for... some reason. What could be happening, I wonder?

They are doing the Clarkson, Hammond and May Live show thing in Stavanger over the weekend

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Top gear eventually became a show where expensive cars did things i'm not interested in doing in a car. If a car costs 80,000, or 380,000, or 800,000. It doesnt matter becuase thats such a stupidly huge amount of money that the car might as well be completely CGI and have jet thrusters. Like someone watching a bad CGI action movie, it leaves me cold despite the crazy spectacle.


My best memories of "Top gear" are things like the RX8 test, the S2000 vs Z4 vs Boxster, the Opel Insignia vs Mazdaspeed 6. It doesnt need to be pedantic and boring and compare which hatchback gets the best MPG, but throwing in normal cars to keep things grounded made me enjoy the show more.

I suspect the hosts and producers didnt want that, having driven less than typical cars since before most of us were born. Something like a E63 AMG becomes "A practical sedan" and something like a fast honda or mazda is practically invisible.


The second anything said "Ferrari" or "AMG Black" i mentally sighed and hoped next week would be better.

you suck just fyi

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the bsd boys
Aug 8, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 366 days!

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Dear so-called "Top Gear",

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

AcidRonin posted:

Where did you hear this? Has any one heard when THE LOST EPISODES will be shown

Clarkson himself, and June 28th.

He basically waited for Chris Evans to say he'd got the job then let it slip that they asked him if he wanted to come back and he told them to get hosed since one of the directors compared him to Jimmy Saville and the show would be irreparably damaged and they'd ruin it by micromanaging every aspect.

The bbc are being typically mealy mouthed about it by saying 'WE NEVER OFFERED HIM A CONTRACT' but refusing to confirm or deny that they met with him about coming back. Its no co-incidence that Hammond and May only refused to resign last week too.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
The gang tweeted about going to Norway in a weird way. Who knows if they are there filming stuff or if they are just going to Norway.

Flint Ironstag
Apr 2, 2004

Bob Johnson...oh, wait

MattD1zzl3 posted:

The second anything said "Ferrari" or "AMG Black" i mentally sighed and hoped next week would be better.

I can understand that. As a life long track rat, I don't usually care about boring street stuff, especially stuff bought mainly for the badge or as an investment. Show me a $250,000 garage queen and I just think about how many race weekends I could finance with that kind of cash. My track bikes and cars might not live long, but they die happy.

But Top Gear made the world of supercars entertaining, as they were actually out there hooning them, and having a good time doing it. Before TG 2002, car TV was mostly boring stats and figures and took itself much too seriously. Our hobbies should be fun, and they gave us something fun to watch that even non gearheads could like, too.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
While the stat that a big portion of the TG audience were casuals and women is both impressive and new in this kind of show; I think a larger portion of the audience than the format changes reacted to were the track rat, working class hero garage car type. I dont mean "Tuned" but cars someone could either afford or possibly afford before too long. I think Clarkson used to be that way, and if his netflix car show goes back in this direction: This being the era of chasing a specific rather than broad audience).

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

I want to hurt both of these hideously ugly twerps. Is that the reaction I'm supposed to have?

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
I started out feeling that way about Noel, but he grew on me. gently caress Amstell though.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

Cojawfee posted:

The gang tweeted about going to Norway in a weird way. Who knows if they are there filming stuff or if they are just going to Norway.

Live show I think.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

angryhampster posted:

Live show I think.
An Evening of Cooking with James May and Friends

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

I started out feeling that way about Noel, but he grew on me. gently caress Amstell though.

I don't know who either of them are so I say kill 'em both.

lt_kennedy
Sep 2, 2007
Needs Moar Race

japtor posted:

An Evening of Cooking with James May and Friends

Recently posted one of just a bee buzzing around in a flower :3 Either he's exhausted his cooking repertoire or the live shows have dragged him away from his youtubing duties so banal footage of Bees will do us for now.

Symphoric
Apr 20, 2005


MattD1zzl3 posted:

While the stat that a big portion of the TG audience were casuals and women is both impressive and new in this kind of show; I think a larger portion of the audience than the format changes reacted to were the track rat, working class hero garage car type. I dont mean "Tuned" but cars someone could either afford or possibly afford before too long. I think Clarkson used to be that way, and if his netflix car show goes back in this direction: This being the era of chasing a specific rather than broad audience).

I don't think that's what the "broader audience" wants at all. Accountants don't want to watch movies about guys in shirts and ties poking numbers into adding machines, they want to watch movies about spacemen in laserfights and planets exploding just like everyone else. People watch this stuff because they want to experience things they never could in real life, even if that means doing it vicariously through a surly old man driving a supercar sideways around a track.

I say this as someone who tracks (normal) cars and motorcycles and races spec-miata. I mean, it would be cool to see them do stuff like that once in a while, but if it became the recurring formula for the show I'd get bored of it pretty fast.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

MattD1zzl3 posted:

While the stat that a big portion of the TG audience were casuals and women is both impressive and new in this kind of show; I think a larger portion of the audience than the format changes reacted to were the track rat, working class hero garage car type. I dont mean "Tuned" but cars someone could either afford or possibly afford before too long. I think Clarkson used to be that way, and if his netflix car show goes back in this direction: This being the era of chasing a specific rather than broad audience).

The show would be terrible if it went that way and I hope it goes even further the opposite. You think the large part of the audience are the same as you. This is wrong. The show got more and more popular the more it moved away from the 3 family car reviews and towards the 3 idiot middle aged men having adventures normal people can only dream of.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I love the idiot adventures, but would love to see more of those segments where they actually try to compete in amateur racing classes they have little idea about. Whether it be more rally, hillclimb, drift, circuit, offroad, whatever. I love seeing them out of their element and having a blast.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


serious gaylord posted:

The show would be terrible if it went that way and I hope it goes even further the opposite. You think the large part of the audience are the same as you. This is wrong. The show got more and more popular the more it moved away from the 3 family car reviews and towards the 3 idiot middle aged men having adventures normal people can only dream of.

This. I don't give a gently caress about cars but I really like(d) Top gear.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Top gear eventually became a show where expensive cars did things i'm not interested in doing in a car. If a car costs 80,000, or 380,000, or 800,000. It doesnt matter becuase thats such a stupidly huge amount of money that the car might as well be completely CGI and have jet thrusters. Like someone watching a bad CGI action movie, it leaves me cold despite the crazy spectacle.


My best memories of "Top gear" are things like the RX8 test, the S2000 vs Z4 vs Boxster, the Opel Insignia vs Mazdaspeed 6. It doesnt need to be pedantic and boring and compare which hatchback gets the best MPG, but throwing in normal cars to keep things grounded made me enjoy the show more.

I suspect the hosts and producers didnt want that, having driven less than typical cars since before most of us were born. Something like a E63 AMG becomes "A practical sedan" and something like a fast honda or mazda is practically invisible.


The second anything said "Ferrari" or "AMG Black" i mentally sighed and hoped next week would be better.

I hate you. Also 80 grand cars are attainable for many people.

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Top gear eventually became a show where expensive cars did things i'm not interested in doing in a car. If a car costs 80,000, or 380,000, or 800,000. It doesnt matter becuase thats such a stupidly huge amount of money that the car might as well be completely CGI and have jet thrusters. Like someone watching a bad CGI action movie, it leaves me cold despite the crazy spectacle.


My best memories of "Top gear" are things like the RX8 test, the S2000 vs Z4 vs Boxster, the Opel Insignia vs Mazdaspeed 6. It doesnt need to be pedantic and boring and compare which hatchback gets the best MPG, but throwing in normal cars to keep things grounded made me enjoy the show more.

I suspect the hosts and producers didnt want that, having driven less than typical cars since before most of us were born. Something like a E63 AMG becomes "A practical sedan" and something like a fast honda or mazda is practically invisible.


The second anything said "Ferrari" or "AMG Black" i mentally sighed and hoped next week would be better.

Escapism is the most popular form of entertainment, and TG 2002 offered exactly that: escapism. Nobody* fantasizes about driving their children to school in a hatchback, people do dream about touring the Alps in a $160,000 luxury sport coupe.


*except MattD1zzl3, who is once again proving Lowtax's maxim that you can safely ignore the opinions of anyone posting on the internet with numbers in their username.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Top gear eventually became a show where expensive cars did things i'm not interested in doing in a car. If a car costs 80,000, or 380,000, or 800,000. It doesnt matter becuase thats such a stupidly huge amount of money that the car might as well be completely CGI and have jet thrusters. Like someone watching a bad CGI action movie, it leaves me cold despite the crazy spectacle.


My best memories of "Top gear" are things like the RX8 test, the S2000 vs Z4 vs Boxster, the Opel Insignia vs Mazdaspeed 6. It doesnt need to be pedantic and boring and compare which hatchback gets the best MPG, but throwing in normal cars to keep things grounded made me enjoy the show more.

I suspect the hosts and producers didnt want that, having driven less than typical cars since before most of us were born. Something like a E63 AMG becomes "A practical sedan" and something like a fast honda or mazda is practically invisible.


The second anything said "Ferrari" or "AMG Black" i mentally sighed and hoped next week would be better.

I liked those segments because they would often tear into these 'supercars' and talk poo poo about them. Also made the affordable car segments a lot better.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
My point is the show would switch back and forth. (And he still did smokey powerslides in the cheaper cars, not boring commuting or consumer advice.)

I'm not begrudging top gear for chasing an audience, but after 10 years of that weren't you getting sick of it? The thread sure was full of complaints.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jun 20, 2015

Plucky Brit
Nov 7, 2009

Swing low, sweet chariot

MattD1zzl3 posted:

My point is the show would switch back and fourth. (And he still did smokey powerslides in the cheaper cars, not boring commuting or consumer advice. lovely strawman.


I'm not begrudging top gear for chasing an audience, but after 10 years of that weren't you getting sick of it? The thread sure was full of complaints.

My problem was that there weren't enough wacky adventures. The last season was a return to form and I was looking forward to more seasons in the same vein. I have absolutely no interest in seeing them compare hatchbacks.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
I want to remind everyone what "Comparing hatchbacks" looks like on top gear, (i didnt expect as much pushback. How exactly did you people find A/I?):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzb6z6f0cbY
Remember the test track guys? I Loved the test track.

Its not "Veyron with Fireworks on it, or motorweek". Seeing these cars compared tells me a little about where designers are today and how tastes car culture may evolve in the next few years. A AMG black tells me what's going to be parked underground under a sheet because its owner thinks it will hold its value that way. I dont hate expensive cars, they are just dreadfully boring. I used to rewatch episodes of top gear, for the last few seasons i was barely interested in seeing the new episodes. Calling me "Dear top so-called gear" is actually fair :)


"Oh wow, a faster supercar beat a slower car in a drag race, i'm sure glad we flew a film crew to dubai for this"


Plucky Brit posted:

My problem was that there weren't enough wacky adventures.

They have this great show on history channel thats just like you want. Its called "Top gear america". Its 3 men going on wacky adventures 24/7. I'll bet you'll love it.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Jun 20, 2015

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RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

This is a better comparing hatchbacks video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qLZMKpWsjk

A perfect example of 3 Twits Top Gear managing to have fun with something incredibly boring.

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