Fallout 4: Power Armored Garbage Farmers

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Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Farm Frenzy posted:

if they absolutely have to add level scaling they should make it increase the number of enemies instead of the strength . which I guess they could actually do now that modern consoles don't have a tiny amount of ram???

while that is doable for random encounters, pre-placed encounter zones won't react well to that, unless you like seeing people split into two upon rendering

source: Skyrim

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AHungryRobot: Oct 12, 2012

Mods do make them vastly better though, like they do with pretty much any game.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 05:44

Lord Lambeth: Dec 7, 2011

I reinstalled oblivion on a whim because I dunno, nostalgia? The 3rd person camera is really bizarre and floaty and it bothers me more than anything else in the entire game right now. No other bethesda game has a camera this awful.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 05:47

Farm Frenzy: Jan 3, 2007

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

while that is doable for random encounters, pre-placed encounter zones won't react well to that, unless you like seeing people split into two upon rendering

source: Skyrim

they could totally do what doom did with its difficult levels in 1994 and just have additional enemies placed in by designers that only activate for players past a certain level

# ? Jun 21, 2015 05:50

Nuebot: Feb 18, 2013; The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

AHungryRobot posted:

Hmm. No, I'm pretty sure I had fun with Oblivion, FO3, FONV and Skyrim even before mods.

The irony is that the most fun I had with a bethesda game was oblivion on the 360. It only crashed once, after I duped a billion bear claw helms in cheydenhall.

Then the game auto-saved so I reloaded in the middle of a skull flooded city with NPCs slowly wading their way through a sea of bear skulls. It took like ten tries to get out of the city and I never went back. I played that poo poo for ages then eventually bought the PC version for mods but it was never as fun as that first playthrough.

Lord Lambeth posted:

I reinstalled oblivion on a whim because I dunno, nostalgia? The 3rd person camera is really bizarre and floaty and it bothers me more than anything else in the entire game right now. No other bethesda game has a camera this awful.

I am continually bewildered that anyone plays these games in third person.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:54

Sharkopath: May 27, 2009

Genocyber posted:

ftfy

Changing peoples words is incredibly illegal and you're going to ultrajail, forever.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:09

Crabtree: Oct 17, 2012; ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
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New Idea for a mod: Make all companions except dog a Velociraptor.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:09

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

Crabtree posted:

New Idea for a mod: Make all companions except dog a Velociraptor.

This, but the other way

# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:20

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Nuebot posted:

I am continually bewildered that anyone plays these games in third person.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:39

Cream-of-Plenty: Apr 21, 2010; "The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

The only reason to play these games in third person is to masturbate while you stare at your scantily clad 1000-year-old anime "creature" that happens to look like a child.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:52

Pretzel Rod Serling: Aug 6, 2008

You should only ever see your character once every few hours in a stupid slo-mo kill-cam and, needless to say, you should never, ever hear them

# ? Jun 21, 2015 08:34

Cheap Shot: Aug 15, 2006; Help BIP learn gun?

so I've been looking and reading and calling all over and I can't figure out what the gently caress is going on with collectors editions in Canada. Bethesda is going "pick yours up at eb games!" And eb is farting out a consistent "wha?". I've heard reports that best buy aren't honouring preorders, I think Amazon.ca briefly had some for the duration of eb's fart.... Does anyone in here actually know what the preorder situation in Ontario is?

Yes I really want to waste my money on a plastic phone case. I'm a horrible idiot, please enable me.

Also on the Bethesda game quality discussion, I think it's real easy to look at the details of their games and tear them apart for the jankey clunky poo poo they are, but when you put it all together you get literally unforgettable games that you spend your whole life reinstalling to play "one more time" once a year.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 08:38

Lord Lambeth: Dec 7, 2011

Nuebot posted:

I am continually bewildered that anyone plays these games in third person.

I tend to flick 3rd person on when I'm in a town or some other reasonably safe locale. Doing actual combat in 3rd person is just a bad time.

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

The only reason to play these games in third person is to masturbate while you stare at your scantily clad 1000-year-old anime "creature" that happens to look like a child.

Clearly I have not been playing this game right.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 09:01

Nuebot: Feb 18, 2013; The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

I found a weird bug with Fallout Shelter, since there's no topic for it as far as I'm aware, I'll spread the cheer here. Raider attack on the vault, sent my dudes to fight it. They stood around next to the raiders while random vault citizens in every other room just started dropping dead. :confused:

# ? Jun 21, 2015 09:14

Flaky: Feb 14, 2011; Can't post for 3 years!

There was a great alternative soundtrack mod for Fallout 3 inspired by the Fallout 1 soundtrack, for those who got sick of Three Dog and co.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcYM2MWpL1A

Ed. Also lolling at Todd 'this game might just have so much content that it never ends' Howard

Flaky fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Jun 21, 2015

# ? Jun 21, 2015 10:03

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

You really can't trust Bethesda to unfuck its own game, let alone figure out the intricacies of a bondage/mutant pregnancy mod written by an autist.

If you don't like my mods you can just come right out and say so.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 10:08

Raygereio: Nov 12, 2012

Mordaedil posted:

Todd Howard said on a thing last week that he wanted to let console owners to gently caress themselves silly with mods, taking responsibility into their own hands.
Ergo, if you are going to download a mod as a console owner, you better make drat sure it isn't going to brick your system.

I can't wait to see how long it will take for someone to put something like this in their mod's script:

code:

Scr GetFuckedCosoles
Event OnPlayerLoadGame()
	If Debug.GetPlatformName() != PC
		RegisterForUpdate(1,0)
	EndIf
EndEvent
Event OnUpdate
	RegisterForUpdate(1,0)
EndEvent

If you have a script like this running in the background, it should slowly but steadily gently caress up your save file. Removing the mod from an already affected save won't fix it, it'll just prevent it from getting worse. :rms:

# ? Jun 21, 2015 10:34

Teikanmi: Dec 16, 2006; by R. Guyovich

Here's a great video guys, I love it and hope you will too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni2PC2FhbBg

# ? Jun 21, 2015 11:03

a nigga who smoke: Feb 26, 2007; coughin' and chokin' constantly

Hi, Roy. Just wondering if this is the game worth investing in a new console or rig. I'll hang up and listen. Love the show.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 12:32

Psychotic Weasel: Jun 24, 2004; Bang! You're dead.

Raygereio posted:

I can't wait to see how long it will take for someone to put something like this in their mod's script:
code:
Scr GetFuckedCosoles
Event OnPlayerLoadGame()
	If Debug.GetPlatformName() != PC
		RegisterForUpdate(1,0)
	EndIf
EndEvent
Event OnUpdate
	RegisterForUpdate(1,0)
EndEvent
If you have a script like this running in the background, it should slowly but steadily gently caress up your save file. Removing the mod from an already affected save won't fix it, it'll just prevent it from getting worse.

Taking the console wars to the next level. Can't wait to see poo poo like this as well as other mods that just consist of bloated textures and mandatory script extenders that just grind consoles to a halt.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 14:30

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

Flaky posted:

There was a great alternative soundtrack mod for Fallout 3 inspired by the Fallout 1 soundtrack, for those who got sick of Three Dog and co.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcYM2MWpL1A

Ed. Also lolling at Todd 'this game might just have so much content that it never ends' Howard

It's probably radiant content or whatever.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 14:31

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

Nuebot posted:

I found a weird bug with Fallout Shelter, since there's no topic for it as far as I'm aware, I'll spread the cheer here. Raider attack on the vault, sent my dudes to fight it. They stood around next to the raiders while random vault citizens in every other room just started dropping dead.

Just in case you missed them, like I did, raiders can and will just run straight past your defenders into other rooms, so one of them might have slipped by while you were watching the front door.

Or maybe it's a weird bug. Haven't seen anything like that since I missed the ones who beelined to my diner and murdered half the vault.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 14:32

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

AHungryRobot posted:

Hmm. No, I'm pretty sure I had fun with Oblivion, FO3, FONV and Skyrim even before mods.

I can kinda see the other games, but Oblivion? Without a mod that fixes level scaling it has the depth of a Game Boy Color licensed beat 'em up, but still allows you to gently caress yourself with poor leveling. To me a game where it's easier by far to beat it at level one than level 25 is more broken than the occasional mod conflict.

Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jun 21, 2015

# ? Jun 21, 2015 16:37

Humbug Scoolbus: Apr 25, 2008; The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.; Clapping Larry

I'm not a TES fan, but I played through FO3 and NV without mods once each. The mods(especially new radio stations) make them both so much better.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 16:53

Cheap Shot: Aug 15, 2006; Help BIP learn gun?

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

I'm not a TES fan, but I played through FO3 and NV without mods once each. The mods(especially new radio stations) make them both so much better.

I played through FO3 without mods, and I don't think I ever even added any afterward. Something about new Vegas though, I couldn't explain it but I felt like it needed mods more. Most will take issue with that probably.

Same with skyrim. I HAD to mod it. I just didn't feel like playing it without a bit of customization and tweaking.

I have a feeling my desire to mod is entirely dependant on how much setup the game has. TES is traditionally super light on intros. You're arrested, whoops time to wander away and start your new life! Woops you got shot in the head! Time to go find the guy who did It, or not, no hurry really. Fallout 3 had a ton of buildup before letting you loose.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:22

Synthwave Crusader: Feb 13, 2011

So what's this I heard about mods coming to consoles?

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:33

Azhais: Feb 5, 2007; Switchblade Switcharoo

Scyantific posted:

So what's this I heard about mods coming to consoles?

It is true, Xbox users will no longer be denied the Fallout prostitution mods that they crave

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:38

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

Scyantific posted:

So what's this I heard about mods coming to consoles?

Yeah only for Xbone, and Bethesda still hasn't made clear on the limitations on it

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:40

Crappy Jack: Nov 21, 2005; We got some serious shit to discuss.

frajaq posted:

Yeah only for Xbone, and Bethesda still hasn't made clear on the limitations on it

It's coming to PS4 as well, it'll just take time to get set up since it's not using Microsoft structure.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:42

Hefty Leftist: Jun 26, 2011; "You know how vodka or whiskey are distilled multiple times to taste good? It's the same with shit. After being digested for the third time shit starts to taste reeeeeeaaaally yummy."

can someone tell me what the point of the settlement customisation stuff is? is it just going to be a place where you can buy poo poo from vendors and absolutely nothing else happens of importance, or will it actually effect poo poo in the wasteland? it's kind of like yeah, that's cool and all but i really don't see a point in actually going to the effort of making a big clubhouse that raiders attack every 3 ingame days

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:45

Psychotic Weasel: Jun 24, 2004; Bang! You're dead.

Cheap Shot posted:

I have a feeling my desire to mod is entirely dependant on how much setup the game has. TES is traditionally super light on intros. You're arrested, whoops time to wander away and start your new life! Woops you got shot in the head! Time to go find the guy who did It, or not, no hurry really. Fallout 3 had a ton of buildup before letting you loose.

The whole growing up in the Vault intro was pretty neat the first time but it can get old if you do it enough - fortunately I don't start new games often enough to really care and the game drops a save as soon as you leave the Vault for the first time if you want to restart. Fallout 3 does give you an incredible amount of freedom though. The first time I played the game I left the Vault, explored Springdale and Megaton then ditched the main story to explore around the wasteland. I remember stumbling onto some random garage at the rear end end of the world and found Vault 112 under it, and in it happened to be Dear Old Dad being held hostage in a chair. I had no idea what the gently caress was going on as I had skipped most of the story, finished the mission and ended up just reloading a safe from before I entered so I got the whole picture.

Freedom is great, but skipping half of what little story there is, not so great.

I've also never modded FO3 or NV. It's weird, I normally modify TES games to some extent but never Fallout. I doubt I'll mod FO4 either.

edit:

Phlegmish posted:

It will probably a pointless minigame as strongholds usually are.

Apparently some merchants you attract will also be the only source for some top end gear in the late game. But I think for the most part it's for people who want to play post-apocalypse Barbie's Dreamhouse; which to be clear, I do.

Psychotic Weasel fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jun 21, 2015

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:45

Nasgate: Jun 7, 2011

Eifert Posting posted:

I can kinda see the other games, but Oblivion? Without a mod that fixes level scaling it has the depth of a Game Boy Color licensed beat 'em up, but still allows you to gently caress yourself with poor leveling. To me a game where it's easier by far to beat it at level one than level 25 is more broken than the occasional mod conflict.

The console "fix" for the leveling problem was actually pretty widely known and super simple. Basically pick main skills that you weren't going to use, but include athletics and acrobatics.

the levelling of athletics and acro would mean you would level at a decent pace while still getting good stat boosts. That game was the epitome of hp sponges though after level 20 or so, i'll give you that.

Though in regards to the ease of beating it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioKyj-EK3P0

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:46

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

ThePutty posted:

can someone tell me what the point of the settlement customisation stuff is? is it just going to be a place where you can buy poo poo from vendors and absolutely nothing else happens of importance, or will it actually effect poo poo in the wasteland? it's kind of like yeah, that's cool and all but i really don't see a point in actually going to the effort of making a big clubhouse that raiders attack every 3 ingame days

It will probably a pointless minigame as strongholds usually are.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:46

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

Hopefully I can make my own pizza place in the wasteland

or a brothel

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:50

Synthwave Crusader: Feb 13, 2011

frajaq posted:

Yeah only for Xbone, and Bethesda still hasn't made clear on the limitations on it

Kinda pointless isn't it though? I mean unless they also plan on letting users have access to third party stuff like FOEdit/Wrye it's all going to turn into a big mess. Are they using a modified version of the Skyrim engine?

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:50

marshmallow creep: Dec 10, 2008; I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

He said it's strictly optional if you do the settlement at all, yes.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:51

King Vidiot: Feb 17, 2007; You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

frajaq posted:

Hopefully I can make my own pizza place in the wasteland

Cue dozens of YouTube facecam LPers recreating Freddy Fazbear's Pizza in Fallout 4, with Securitrons set up on the stage.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 17:52

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

ThePutty posted:

can someone tell me what the point of the settlement customisation stuff is? is it just going to be a place where you can buy poo poo from vendors and absolutely nothing else happens of importance, or will it actually effect poo poo in the wasteland? it's kind of like yeah, that's cool and all but i really don't see a point in actually going to the effort of making a big clubhouse that raiders attack every 3 ingame days

It fills the same niche that the Hearthfire DLC/houses in general did in Skyrim.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 18:00

Raygereio: Nov 12, 2012

Scyantific posted:

Kinda pointless isn't it though? I mean unless they also plan on letting users have access to third party stuff like FOEdit/Wrye it's all going to turn into a big mess. Are they using a modified version of the Skyrim engine?

FO4 will use a tweaked & upgraded version of Skyrim's Creation Engine. And yes, Bethesda-modding as it works now would be a complete clusterfuck on the consoles.
Maybe Bethesda will add proper loadorder sorting & conflict detection/resolution tools. But I sort of doubt that. Either it's going to be a glorious mess, or mods-on-consoles is going to end up Bethesda releasing selected mods that have been checked for stability & conflicts as free DLC via that Bethesda.net thingamajig.

# ? Jun 21, 2015 18:02

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Hefty Leftist: Jun 26, 2011; "You know how vodka or whiskey are distilled multiple times to taste good? It's the same with shit. After being digested for the third time shit starts to taste reeeeeeaaaally yummy."

computer parts posted:

It fills the same niche that the Hearthfire DLC/houses in general did in Skyrim.

so anime/porn modders on the nexus

# ? Jun 21, 2015 18:02

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