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CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Foul Fowl posted:

not really

You don't think that Kimbo could have beaten Harold Howard?

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Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?

Breakfast All Day posted:

Ken Shamrock is an "MMA professional" only in the sense that he was one of the first people to make a career out of the sport. Have you watched one of his golden age fights recently? There's nothing surprising at him being dumb and getting tagged easily. Ken Shamrock was what we thought good MMA was before anyone had actually seen good MMA. Basically:


Kimbo could've won one of UFC 1-5 by chance just as easily as Shamrock. It was a mess.

That's true for a lot of early athletes in sports, but most of them have the good sense to not keep playing 20 years past their prime.

world b lee
Feb 1, 2006
Is it a frog? Is it a toad?

CommonShore posted:

You don't think that Kimbo could have beaten Harold Howard?

Why would that be so shocking that Harold Howard could beat Kimbo? Kimbo loving sucks. That one cop who beat Kimbo's rear end in a street fight and then got a shot in the UFC is probably roughly as good as Harold Howard.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


world b lee posted:

Why would that be so shocking that Harold Howard could beat Kimbo? Kimbo loving sucks. That one cop who beat Kimbo's rear end in a street fight and then got a shot in the UFC is probably roughly as good as Harold Howard.

Well the point is that he might be capable of doing it. If a fight between Kimbo and Steve Jennum or Harold Howard is a reasonably close one, then Kimbo can be considered capable of maybe winning UFC 1-5.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

CommonShore posted:

You don't think that Kimbo could have beaten Harold Howard?

kimbo could've been the guy who got a freak win due to injuries and was then instantly forgotten yeah but he never would've been anything else

Keven. Just. Keven
May 25, 2010

MY GOD. THE WILL... THE FIGHTING SPIRIT... JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT'S OVER, TSM COMES BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.
Scary looking guy with muscles and no particular fight ability probably would have won early ufcs, events specifically designed to make those guys lose to the scientific art of submission fighting.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
kimbo would lose to royce now

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!
"Was the fight worked" to "Kimbo would have won UFC 1" is certainly a weird direction for this thread to take. Here's an internet autist take on it http://fightland.vice.com/blog/kimbo-slice-versus-ken-shamrock-anatomy-of-a-fixed-fight

red19fire
May 26, 2010

world b lee posted:

Why would that be so shocking that Harold Howard could beat Kimbo? Kimbo loving sucks. That one cop who beat Kimbo's rear end in a street fight and then got a shot in the UFC is probably roughly as good as Harold Howard.

That was Sean Gannon, who talked a ton of poo poo on the UG, then beat Kimbo in a 'streetfight', then somehow went 1-1 in the UFC. That street fight is fantastic to see kimbo gas instantly then get dropped a few times and shoot crappy singles. Plus his entourage interferes whenever he gets into even a little trouble.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Hmm gasses early, manager interference, sounds like a work to me.

Keven. Just. Keven
May 25, 2010

MY GOD. THE WILL... THE FIGHTING SPIRIT... JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT'S OVER, TSM COMES BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.
If I was shamrock and I wanted to work the fight I'd probably have Kimbo get out of the choke instead of pretending to have roughly fifteen seconds of gas.

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

red19fire posted:

That was Sean Gannon, who talked a ton of poo poo on the UG, then beat Kimbo in a 'streetfight', then somehow went 1-1 in the UFC. That street fight is fantastic to see kimbo gas instantly then get dropped a few times and shoot crappy singles. Plus his entourage interferes whenever he gets into even a little trouble.

Gannon had one UFC fight which he lost. Brandon Lee Hinkle then lost to Jeff Monson who would eventually lose to Tim Sylvia, thus unifying the UFC heavyweight title with the lineal Kimbo Slice bumfighting title.

TheRationalRedditor
Jul 17, 2000

WHO ABUSED HIM. WHO ABUSED THE BOY.
I just saw the fight, and I wanted to say those guys were 91 years old in the bellator dodecahedron, and that their entrances were lifted verbatim out of the straight to video Scooby Doo Wrestlemania special

El Roncho
Oct 15, 2006

I'm not necessarily proud of this but I'm gonna leave it here anyways.
Hmm. If only we had a one dimensional, heavy handed brawler in early UFC's. Would have answered so many currently pressing questions.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Kimbo-Gannon wasn't even MMA. It was gassy clinch-boxing and several of the mobsters present got loudly upset when Gannon threw a standing knee strike.

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010

El Roncho posted:

Hmm. If only we had a one dimensional, heavy handed brawler in early UFC's. Would have answered so many currently pressing questions.

Tank actually got a little juco wrestling experience under his (capacious) belt before he dropped out to pursue a full-time career as a drunken reprobate. Like in his second fight at UFC 6 he beat Paul Varelans by taking him down and beating the poo poo out of him. I would argue Tank in 1995 was more versatile and strictly better than Kimbo ever was.

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002
Alexander Shlemenko has been suspended for 3 years by the CSAC for his failed drug test, so I guess it's back to Russia forever for him

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Triticum Guzzler posted:

Alexander Shlemenko has been suspended for 3 years by the CSAC for his failed drug test, so I guess it's back to Russia forever for him

Jason Floyd posted:

UCLA lab rep mentions T/E Ratio for Shlemenko was 50/1


Holy poo poo

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything
The rate of spinning poo poo in MMA just dropped significantly.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Overeem only managed 12:1. Look how far the sport has come in such a short time!

Gregor Samsa
Sep 5, 2007
Nietzsche's Mustache

-Atom- posted:

The rate of spinning poo poo in MMA just dropped significantly.

Ironically, due to a centrifuge

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002

Gregor Samsa posted:

Ironically, due to a centrifuge

hahaha

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man



That's what happens when you shake Putin's hand.

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Gregor Samsa posted:

Ironically, due to a centrifuge

Lol

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011

Gregor Samsa posted:

Ironically, due to a centrifuge

:thurman:

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

Ask me about Game Pass: the Best Deal in Gaming!
Calcio Storico final in 30 minutes.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3725616

Lord Waffle Beard
Dec 7, 2013
Bellator 139 is tomorrow and it has four HW fights

MAIN CARD
Spike TV, 9 p.m. ET
Cheick Kongo vs. Alexander Volkov
John Alessio vs. David Rickels
Pat Curran vs. Emmanuel Sanchez
Joe Schilling vs. Hisaki Kato

PRELIMINARY CARD
MMAjunkie, 6:45 p.m. ET
Bubba Jenkins vs. Joe Wilk
Aaron Ely vs. Jeimeson Saudino
Bobby Cooper vs. Pablo Villaseca
Daniel Gallemore vs. Augusto Sakai
Bryanna Fissori vs. Iony Razafiarison
Javy Ayala vs. Alex Huddleston
Gaston Reyno vs. Greg Scott
Derek Bohi vs. Frederick Brown
Cody Carrillo vs. Marcio Navarro

TastyAvocado
Dec 9, 2009
Kato's corner owns.

TastyAvocado
Dec 9, 2009
Kato's corner was right, for Melvin!

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


That was a good KO.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

I turned on AXS just in time to watch some guy eat a knee to the head and now he's trying to get a double-leg takedown on the athletic commission dude because he thinks he's still in a fight :stare:

Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jun 27, 2015

MysteryNad
Dec 5, 2003

Here in my guard
I feel safest of all
I can lock up my guard
It's the only way to fight
In guard
Bellator just announced the signed Koscheck?
:laffo: you can't make this poo poo up

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything
jesus christ what the gently caress koscheck

GRBass
Apr 25, 2008
how the gently caress does a guy from a former soviet country have such piss poor wrestling?

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

This guy is really bad

Bellator is really bad

GRBass
Apr 25, 2008
anyone thats ever lost to volkov should question their life decisions.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


Legacy just had a ten second knockout, so far every fight has ended in the first round.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Teddybear posted:

Legacy just had a ten second knockout, so far every fight has ended in the first round.

I have no idea what this promotion is other than "the thing that's on after NJPW" but I'm pretty sure 3 fights in a row ended within 20 seconds due to crippling head trauma. I think they said 9 minutes of actual fighting in the first 5 fights.

e: 10 minutes 15 seconds of fighting on everything up to the main event. lol

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


Also that knockout was in eight seconds. Dana White is at ringside and to kill time they brought him to the announce desk and were like "hey, how ya doing" "not bad, stealing your talent"

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Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Njokuani does not look happy with that decision.

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