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demonR6 posted:wjs I sent you an invite to join ISLAM.. is the battalion poo poo not working or are you afraid to join the goon jihad squad. I didnt see it pop anything up. Also I dont play on the EU server at all aint got time for that.
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ISLAM is on NA.. CHAI is EU. I'll resend NA when I get home, just join if you are interested so we can test it out whenever that rolls out. I need to get someone to make me a crying Lenin with a turban on it in the event they allow us our own badges.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:21
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demonR6 posted:ISLAM is on NA.. CHAI is EU. I'll resend NA when I get home, just join if you are interested so we can test it out whenever that rolls out. Give us an invite for NA: Kuxai
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Jun 20, 2015 02:08
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wjs5 posted:However the whole design principle is to be able to fire over things and zone in on a target with the laz tower. That's true, and not necessarily a bad thing given these are supposed to be tank destroyer-ish in function and that allows them to do the job while remaining fragile. The issue is just that the vision differential (blind MBTs versus crazy long vision range swingfire) makes it pretty annoying when you can't observe either the vehicle or the missiles. And, of course, they're also faster and more nimble so they can often get the hell out of dodge before you or your scouts spot them anyways. The biggest thing I'd like to see changed about the ATGM-carriers in general is the lack of a notable minimum range. Swingfire couldn't engage under 150m, for example. Dudes rolling around a corner or over a hilltop and taking a snapshot with a missile at near point blank while my MBT has to stop and wait to aim have been frustrating.
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Snakes in a can posted:Give us an invite for NA: Kuxai Sent you a friend invite demonR6 fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jun 20, 2015 |
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Jun 20, 2015 18:19
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Warbadger posted:That's true, and not necessarily a bad thing given these are supposed to be tank destroyer-ish in function and that allows them to do the job while remaining fragile. The issue is just that the vision differential (blind MBTs versus crazy long vision range swingfire) makes it pretty annoying when you can't observe either the vehicle or the missiles. And, of course, they're also faster and more nimble so they can often get the hell out of dodge before you or your scouts spot them anyways. Well swingfires can not fire on the move they have to sit still to steady before firing. GIving them a min range is probably also not the answer as no other vehical has stuff like that. I think the devs say they will be lowering there viewrange, lets see what that does first.
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Jun 20, 2015 18:20
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Are they planning to add the M60A2E1 Starship and the MBT-70 or does this ignore crazy experimental tanks? I remember those two were a lot of fun when used properly in Wargame. 
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Jun 20, 2015 18:28
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The M60A2 Starship is already in there as a premium tier 5 atm. I played it the alpha before last when they allowed us to play all the premiums.. let me tell you it was fun.
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Jun 20, 2015 18:31
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Klaus88 posted:Are they planning to add the M60A2E1 Starship and the MBT-70 or does this ignore crazy experimental tanks? I remember those two were a lot of fun when used properly in Wargame. Starship and MBT-70 were both in the alpha.
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Jun 20, 2015 20:05
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wjs5 posted:Well swingfires can not fire on the move they have to sit still to steady before firing. GIving them a min range is probably also not the answer as no other vehical has stuff like that. I think the devs say they will be lowering there viewrange, lets see what that does first. MBTs more or less do need to sit still before firing. They get horrendous accuracy when moving and it takes a few seconds when stationary to get "hit broad side of barn more than 5% of the time" kind of accuracy. So yeah, they could fire when moving, they'd just miss every shot. It's only the light tanks that don't get the huge penalty to accuracy when moving (this is why they're strong as hell right now) while the AFVs and TDs don't get as large a penalty and aim faster to reduce the impact.
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Jun 20, 2015 20:24
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Klaus88 posted:Are they planning to add the M60A2E1 Starship and the MBT-70 or does this ignore crazy experimental tanks? I remember those two were a lot of fun when used properly in Wargame.
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Jun 20, 2015 23:06
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Is anyone even still playing this? haven't seen anyone all day.
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Jun 21, 2015 02:30
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Nobody's playing anything today. It's a wasteland.
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Jun 21, 2015 02:53
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cheese posted:To be fair, there is basically no MM right now. They seem to have it disabled to ensure people get fast games during the short test windows. Oh, I get it - it's the people bitching about it in chat that don't. I can't even play long enough to get out of tier 1 because of the nonsense. Is there an option in this game to turn off chat? It would make my experience 100x better because I don't care about winning in this game.
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Jun 21, 2015 02:56
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I was on earlier, so was scoots and wjs5.. it's a weekend though and early in the day I can see it being a problem. Just add the guys here that are regulars. Get in ISLAM and we can at see each other and try to get platoons going. At least send friend invites.
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Jun 21, 2015 03:23
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So they announced they're bringing t8 tanks to the next phase, and silenstalker has hinted pretty directly that they're also bringing the refit system and pve in the next phase, so it might not be that long till open beta at this rate.
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Jun 22, 2015 16:24
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hopterque posted:So they announced they're bringing t8 tanks to the next phase, and silenstalker has hinted pretty directly that they're also bringing the refit system and pve in the next phase, so it might not be that long till open beta at this rate. Any eta on that?
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Jun 22, 2015 19:34
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Well, this phase ends on wednesday, and the time between the last phases was two weeks I think? So fingers crossed for something like that.
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Jun 22, 2015 19:54
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This phase of testing is about to end and they've shown prelim patch notes for the next phase (hopefully starting in a week or two) http://aw.my.com/en/forum/showthread.php?17826-Early-Access-3-Patchnotes/ Highlights: tier 8 tanks, PVE mode, decals for tanks, matchmaker improvements, more armor buffs and fixes for big tanks, penetration nerfs. Cool poo poo, super curious about the PvE mode. hopterque fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 17:30
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hopterque posted:PvE mode. yesssss, gently caress playing with 14 other retards. Have they said if its going to be the same xp gain vs pvp?
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Jun 24, 2015 00:38
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I don't care if it's 1/3rd the xp gain.. no more having to deal with 14 other retards on my team.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:53
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IIRC PVE missions are still with several humans on your team vs bots. OTOH that also means you can platoon up for them.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:54
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hopterque posted:This phase of testing is about to end and they've shown prelim patch notes for the next phase (hopefully starting in a week or two)
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Jun 24, 2015 01:13
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I'm personally waiting till servers stay up 24/7 before doing jack poo poo. Considering the split server uptime/downtimes really kills any momentum I have for playing.
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Jun 24, 2015 14:46
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Magni posted:IIRC PVE missions are still with several humans on your team vs bots. OTOH that also means you can platoon up for them. When we platooned over the weekend it looked like you could platoon 5 for PvE.
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Jun 24, 2015 15:49
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Couple of questions: Will there be progress wipes before release? How are the missile/artillery mechanics? Any word on the next beta phase after the 24th?
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Jun 24, 2015 16:03
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Yes Haven't played arty, missiles - ATGM's are okay, not my favorite. Word on the street is one week before the next phase.
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Jun 24, 2015 16:09
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They extended this phase through another 48 hour weekend with a new game mode/maps and double xp and triple cash income.
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Tequila posted:artillery mechanics? Arty is actually kind of fun. If you played WoT, your arty view is the battle assistant view. Your shots don't do nearly as much alpha as WoT but they do have high AOE damage. Accuracy really isn't that accurate, maybe a little better than WoT. ROF is higher. The fun part is when you fire as arty enemy arty see a ping on the mini map and you light up to that arty for a few seconds. If you don't keep moving around after firing you will get counter arty. So while playing it can be a cat and mouse game between you and the enemy arty. I would perfer to have 0 tanks that can shoot you from the comfort of the spawn but this is better than WoTs binary miss or one shot.
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BadLlama posted:Arty is actually kind of fun. If you played WoT, your arty view is the battle assistant view. Your shots don't do nearly as much alpha as WoT but they do have high AOE damage. Accuracy really isn't that accurate, maybe a little better than WoT. ROF is higher. So more like something that keeps people moving? I can live with that. How do the missiles work? Are they like guns with different velocity?
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Like guns with lower muzzle velocity that you can correct while they travel, currently you can lob them over cover but iirc, that is going to get 'fixed'; which will lead to an abrupt drop in efficiency of the current missile throwers like the swingfire as that is what makes them so great at the moment.
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So they've confirmed there will be no reset between this phase and 3 (which makes sense, since they're adding t8). And it's a full 48 hour weekend of uptime again, this time with double xp/triple credits. e: Double xp is really cool 
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Tequila posted:So more like something that keeps people moving? I can live with that. It's actually pretty accurate. Fully aimed the reticle is about the size of an MBT. You will never miss a stationary target unless you take a partially aimed snapshot or you hit an object between yourself and the target.. Otherwise shell travel time is a bit quicker than WoT, arc is a bit higher than the high tier German arty but not as high as British arty was. The reticle doesn't bloom much when you move it. So yeah, you can make people move. But you can also keep dropping shells on their face while they move at full speed very easily. High splash radius helps with that, too. Moving is even less a countermeasure than it was in WoT.
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Missles on the swingfire are bugged to hell, if you are lower then what you are shooting at you prob arnt gonna hit it. Also alot of shots hit behind where you are aiming.
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Crash74 posted:Missles on the swingfire are bugged to hell, if you are lower then what you are shooting at you prob arnt gonna hit it. Also alot of shots hit behind where you are aiming.
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Getting my tier 4 stuck in games with half the lineup being Tier 6 tanks every drat time has officially sucked all the fun out of this game. Not even going to get into the Tier 7 tanks getting plopped in there. I don't think I've been in a non-frustrating game since I got back yesterday and I think it's a good time to drop it until things get less lovely.
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Jun 28, 2015 01:13
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Yea it sure was a totes great idea to get rid of the matchmaker for "reasons"
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Crash74 posted:Yea it sure was a totes great idea to get rid of the matchmaker for "reasons" I totally support the idea of a less granular matchmaker. But well, damage and HP scale so damned fast the Tier 6 poo poo is basically 1.75 x MyTank. And with enough pen to punch a hole anywhere in my slow, blind, stationary-to-shoot, MBT. gently caress that. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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I'm kind of confused reading those posts because I only very, very rarely get into a match with people more than 1 tier above me. Hell, a pretty high percentage of the time I get matches that are all the same tier. This is with t4 and t5 tanks.
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hopterque posted:I'm kind of confused reading those posts because I only very, very rarely get into a match with people more than 1 tier above me. Hell, a pretty high percentage of the time I get matches that are all the same tier. This is with t4 and t5 tanks. Don't know what to tell you. Every game I've been in this morning has had a spread of 3-5 tiers. The game I'm currently in I'm top tier at tier 5, but there's a bunch of scorps and AMX-10's in it, too. I think this is mostly as a previous poster said - a combination of quickly scaling damage between tiers (plus scaling HP, of course) and the relatively faster time to kill. As an example, compared to its predecessor the Chieftain, the Challenger I gets a 41% higher DPM (43% higher alpha strike!) and a 43% larger HP pool. 387 vs 555 It takes around 6 shots (6+ a little change) for either a Chieftain or Challenger to kill themselves. (50.4 seconds) It takes around 9 shots for a chieftain to kill a Challenger. (75.6 seconds) It takes around 4 shots for a Challenger to kill a Chieftain. (34.28 seconds) Basically a 2 tier difference means fighting a tank twice as capable as your own that can kill you in less than half the time it takes you to kill it. This is before factoring in the various other "realistic" advantages - the Challenger has approximately double the armor thickness with an additional 40%+ greater bonus to armor protection thanks to the better composite armor, 40% higher penetration, a substantially higher speed, and nearly identical soft stats otherwise. And this is the best case scenario - The T-80 drops nearly 3x the damage of the average tier 5 tank and can actually 2 shot many of them. Even a single tier difference is often a pretty huge gap. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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