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Funzo posted:That was pretty mild to be honest. There were a couple of shots where I couldn't even pick out people doing anything remarkable. If that's considered horrible driving in Portland, I'd take it any day. I was just in Portland, and the drivers there are amazing. People actually stop at the stop bar when they can't make it all the way through the intersection!
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Safety Dance posted:I was just in Portland, and the drivers there are amazing. People actually stop at the stop bar when they can't make it all the way through the intersection! I don't believe you! It's impossible!
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Mooseykins posted:Winnebago, excuse you! The exact point I closed the video.
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spog posted:http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/21/van-driver-handed-1000-fine-after-becoming-first-person-convicted-of-hogging-middle-lane-5256340/ This seems pretty excessive, especially considering that he was in the middle lane. I'm not saying he's innocent but at least he wasn't driving a huge double decker bus in the passing lane, which is something I see literally every day and doubt anyone tickets for.
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Jun 23, 2015 00:42
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I cruise the middle lane, but I go like 10-15 over and keep up with traffic
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Safety Dance posted:I was just in Portland, and the drivers there are amazing. People actually stop at the stop bar when they can't make it all the way through the intersection! Haha you must be talking about Maine because Oregon drivers do that poo poo all the time. And Beaverton is full of left turn red light runners.
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DEAR RICHARD posted:I cruise the middle lane, but I go like 10-15 over and keep up with traffic If you can do so, why not change lanes toward the slow lane? I like cruising in the left and middle lanes too, but I always change lanes toward the slow lane when I'm able to. It just makes life so much simpler for everyone when you don't use a judgement call. If you can move to the outside and maintain speed, you should move to the outside. Easy as pie, and if everyone did it the world would be a better place. EDIT: The fact that no one should be going faster than I am (I usually go 20 km/h over on the highway, depending on conditions and traffic) doesn't change the fact that I should not impede someone who does want to go faster. I can always change left when I need to overtake again. When you have a bunch of people that actually obey the keep-right rule, it's so lovely and unstressful, and I want to be a part of that. PT6A fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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nm posted:The most interesting thing here was the e30 wagon. I have to agree - there was some questionable driving, but drat, that wagon was sick.
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Hikaki posted:This seems pretty excessive, especially considering that he was in the middle lane. I'm not saying he's innocent but at least he wasn't driving a huge double decker bus in the passing lane, which is something I see literally every day and doubt anyone tickets for. Just watched 'Police, Camera, Bastards' - (or one of the variants) and an HGV driver caught reading a map while driving down the motorway at 60mph received a £60 fine. Maybe the magistrate read hates lane hogs? As for that Portland BMW pulling out, that happened to me yesterday. Only he was 5 feet in front of when he did it. That's bad driving.
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Jun 23, 2015 10:45
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The reason the fine was so heavy was because be failed to attend court, normally it's a £100 fixed penalty and 3 points.
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Jun 23, 2015 13:04
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SyHopeful posted:Haha you must be talking about Maine because Oregon drivers do that poo poo all the time. And Beaverton is full of left turn red light runners. Nope, Oregon. Something like Washington and 12th.
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Jun 23, 2015 13:05
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PT6A posted:If you can do so, why not change lanes toward the slow lane? I like cruising in the left and middle lanes too, but I always change lanes toward the slow lane when I'm able to. It just makes life so much simpler for everyone when you don't use a judgement call. If you can move to the outside and maintain speed, you should move to the outside. Easy as pie, and if everyone did it the world would be a better place. I stick to the middle lane because I don't want to deal with people merging.
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Jun 23, 2015 13:29
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Wamsutta posted:I stick to the middle lane because I don't want to deal with people merging. That and when I come across a slow semi in the center lane once every half mile, I don't want to have to cut over two lanes to pass them (or undertake and risk being squished when the trucker suddenly realizes he has to take the next exit). As long as you're going with the prevailing speed of traffic and aren't cruising in the far left lane, I don't see what the issue is; there's still a lane available for anyone who wants to pass you.
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Jun 23, 2015 13:51
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Safety Dance posted:Nope, Oregon. Something like Washington and 12th. Ah okay. Come back and sample any of our freeway onramps during rush hour 
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Almost made my day yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfCVwVU0ClA
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When I was walking home last night, I saw a cabbie pull into the oncoming lane, and then turn left immediately in front of a bicyclist who was on the street, nearly hitting him and causing him to have to stop very quickly. He seemed confused about what he'd done wrong when I asked him if he realized he'd just done several illegal things. Whatever process we use to license taxi drivers in this city isn't loving working. I didn't think this was possible, but I believe they're worse, on average, than regular drivers.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:49
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PT6A posted:When I was walking home last night, I saw a cabbie pull into the oncoming lane, and then turn left immediately in front of a bicyclist who was on the street, nearly hitting him and causing him to have to stop very quickly. He seemed confused about what he'd done wrong when I asked him if he realized he'd just done several illegal things. Taxi drivers are poo poo the world over. When you take upon yourself to do a job, after a certain amount of years you're considered somewhat of a master at it in the eyes of others. I can only think of one single job where the longer you've worked at it, the shittier you get and that's taxi driver.
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88h88 posted:Taxi drivers are poo poo the world over. When you take upon yourself to do a job, after a certain amount of years you're considered somewhat of a master at it in the eyes of others. I can only think of one single job where the longer you've worked at it, the shittier you get and that's taxi driver. Politician. Road worker. I can think of others :P
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Jun 23, 2015 17:54
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Ludicro posted:The reason the fine was so heavy was because be failed to attend court, normally it's a £100 fixed penalty and 3 points. Wamsutta posted:I stick to the middle lane because I don't want to deal with people merging. dennyk posted:That and when I come across a slow semi in the center lane once every half mile, I don't want to have to cut over two lanes to pass them (or undertake and risk being squished when the trucker suddenly realizes he has to take the next exit). As long as you're going with the prevailing speed of traffic and aren't cruising in the far left lane, I don't see what the issue is; there's still a lane available for anyone who wants to pass you. Have to say, yes, there can be good reasons to keep in the middle lane, and that would be why I'm not completely in love with it being on the books. If plod's opinion of what's a good reason doesn't align with your own, you're going to get stuck for it.
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Wamsutta posted:I stick to the middle lane because I don't want to deal with people merging. And I'll use that free right lane as my own personal express lane right past you and everyone else who is afraid of a lane merger.
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88h88 posted:Taxi drivers are poo poo the world over. When you take upon yourself to do a job, after a certain amount of years you're considered somewhat of a master at it in the eyes of others. I can only think of one single job where the longer you've worked at it, the shittier you get and that's taxi driver. I'm not sure about that. Most other places I've been where taxis are crazy and do illegal poo poo, they do it in the name of efficiency. Here, they just do stupid poo poo for no reason. The taxi involved could've simply stopped, waited for the bike to pass, and then completed their left turn as drivers everywhere do every day. Nope; he had to pull into the oncoming lane, and cut the cyclist off. Given there was very little other traffic at the time, this gained him perhaps 4 seconds of time at the cost of doing several illegal and dangerous things.
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This is an intersection near where I live. I see this regularly, where the eastbound and westbound left turn lanes have a green arrow to make a protected turn, and the turds driving the opposite way will make a right on red, nearly hitting the left turning traffic. What do you goons think about this? 
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I dont know why anyone would be in favor of that. Those guys are jerks.
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Are there two lanes going southbound or one? I probably wouldn't attempt that right-on-red even if there are two because I just don't trust people to pick the near lane when turning, but if there's two then there's enough room for both to go without hitting each other. If there's one, then right-on-red needs to yield (and should perhaps be prohibited altogether).
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Jun 23, 2015 18:59
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There are two southbound and northbound lanes.
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If I'm the red arrow (right on red) I'm going to assume Mr. Green Arrow is going to make an illegal turn and hit me, so I would be cautious. If I'm the green arrow, I'm going to assume Mr. Red Arrow is both not going to be paying attention and make an illegal turn, so I would be cautious.
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InitialDave posted:Ok, yeah, that's a good way to get the book thrown at you. Yeah sorry I was phone posting from work so I couldn't go into much more detail. Basically he was stopped by police, and like most offenses of its kind, offered a fixed penalty. So that means you pay the £100, your license is electronically endorsed with 3 penalty points, and you go on your merry way. This guy refused the fixed penalty, so the matter gets referred to court. With offenses such as these, you'd better have a damned good reason to not take the fixed penalty as the costs for losing a court case are very high in comparison. So this guy decides to go to court to fight the matter...and doesn't bother to show up. On top of it he's now trying to play the victim, so gently caress him. There does seem to be a lot of people online who don't grasp the concept of what lane hogging actually is. I see comments all the time from people along the lines of "but what if theres heavy traffic and lorries in the inside lane and I'm going past them?!". Well that isn't loving lane hogging is it? Thats using lanes as they are meant to be used. As soon as you've cleared any slower traffic to your left, if is safe and practical to do so you move back into the inside lane. Honestly anyone who can't grasp this simple concept shouldn't be driving.
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Crotch Fruit posted:Two armed I realize that this is from a few pages back, but how the hell does anyone end up paying $40K for a bog-standard Wrangler ?
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Ludicro posted:There does seem to be a lot of people online who don't grasp the concept of what lane hogging actually is. I see comments all the time from people along the lines of "but what if theres heavy traffic and lorries in the inside lane and I'm going past them?!". Well that isn't loving lane hogging is it? Thats using lanes as they are meant to be used. As soon as you've cleared any slower traffic to your left, if is safe and practical to do so you move back into the inside lane. Did you stay out because you saw there was a junction ahead, and wanted to be clear of any traffic coming down the sliproad? Or there's another lorry further up the road that you'll just have to pull back out for anyway? Or were you just mindlessly sitting there because you couldn't be arsed to pull back in?
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OK, this is my favorite annoyance in parking lots. I see this crap all the time. "OH, I'M GOING TO PARK IN THE ROAD AND BLOCK TRAFFIC IN THIS STRIPMALL BECAUSE I'M A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE!"  And before you start making excuses, it's Home Depot. There's parking right by the exit for this kind of thing. Instead Mrs. Snowflake decides to park in the traffic lane.
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buttcrackmenace posted:I realize that this is from a few pages back, but how the hell does anyone end up paying $40K for a bog-standard Wrangler ? A new Wrangler with the Rubicon package starts at more than that.
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The Mandingo posted:What do you goons think about this? buttcrackmenace posted:I realize that this is from a few pages back, but how the hell does anyone end up paying $40K for a bog-standard Wrangler ? If you get a four-door model with the full off-road package (Rubicon Hard Rock Edition, since apparently the regular Rubicon package has now become more of a decal job) the MSRP starts at $40,495. Add a few options and you can get close to $50k.
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InitialDave posted:Yep, that's fine. However, if a copper disagrees with your opinion on whether it's justifiable lane use, you still get the fine and points. I don't think the sliproad example would hold water, as it is the responsibility of traffic on the sliproad to give way to traffic already on the motorway. If you spotted cars joining in front of you and you switched lanes to avoid having to brake, then I think you'd be fine, as you are merely overtaking slower traffic. Likewise if you see a lorry up ahead that you'd have to pull back out for almost straight away anyway, I doubt you'd have a problem. Personally I use a 15 second rule; if its going to take me longer than 15 seconds to catch up to the lorry ahead I'll pull in, if not I'll stay where I am. Bear in mind that these new regulations for penalties have been in effect for 2 years now and its taken this long for the first prosecution. This was also someone who was driving 10mph under the speed limit and persistently hogging the middle lane for quite some time before they pulled him over. Basically I think you'd have to hog lanes for a long time before you get pulled over and issued a fixed penalty, its a bit like how (around here at least) can happily whizz past police cars at 80mph and they don't give a poo poo. Staying in the middle lane as you're going to be passing a lorry 100m ahead of you anyway? You'll be fine.
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nitrogen posted:OK, this is my favorite annoyance in parking lots. I see this crap all the time.  Come on, you need to get to this level.
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wolrah posted:If you get a four-door model with the full off-road package (Rubicon Hard Rock Edition, since apparently the regular Rubicon package has now become more of a decal job) the MSRP starts at $40,495. Add a few options and you can get close to $50k. The aftermath photos show that it isn't even a Rubicon. Some people just buy Wranglers with every feature except offroad features because they suck at life.
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Ludicro posted:I doubt you'd have a problem. I am an awkward bastard, basically.
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The Mandingo posted:What do you goons think about this? Everyone's pretty much answered this correctly but I'll extend it further to say that when I leave work and make a right turn into 3 lanes of traffic, I know that I only need one lane free to turn into, but I tend to wait until there's space in the middle lane also for me to either get out before the next car or right after. Even though I won't stick my nose into that second lane, if the driver in it is anything like me expects that I'm an idiot who simply doesn't see him, and may take evasive maneuvers. If I was the red turn dude I'd stick my nose out but I wouldn't dare make the turn simultaneously with green because people get freaked out when they see a car heading towards them. There is no way to know whether someone sees you and is an idiot or not. Same goes for if there were two turn lanes at green going into 3 lanes southbound. I make a turn like that every day and if I'm in the top turn lane and there's no one coming from red's side, I'll take that far lane even though I know I'm not supposed to, because I've seen more than enough people in the bottom lane go straight into the middle to fear for my safety. If there is someone waiting at red then I'll manage my speed so I'm not parallel with the other guy turning, because if I don't then that'll be the day someone merges right into me.
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InitialDave posted:Probably not, I just dislike having to rely on plod seeing eye-to-eye with my reasoning. I have the same issue with the "good reason" stuff regarding carrying a locking knife. Understandable, but I think its one of those things that can be avoided with a bit of commonsense. From my experience at least you have to really act out in order to attract the attention of a motorway cop. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5dL4DPm-DE
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I was cutoff in a parking lot by an Audi who was then immediately cut off by a Prius. I laughed.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Are there two lanes going southbound or one? I probably wouldn't attempt that right-on-red even if there are two because I just don't trust people to pick the near lane when turning, but if there's two then there's enough room for both to go without hitting each other. This is the correct answer - and for the record, I would be extremely cautious making a left or right turn, if only because of assholes that take wide swings into the outside lane (or like to run red lights altogether)
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