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quote:Senator Tom Davis, of Beaufort, says that “debate on the Confederate Battle Flag in the Senate it would likely take a minimum of two weeks, and perhaps longer,” and, considering Davis’ last cause (defeating a gas-tax increase), may actually take longer given the State Senate’s desire to give every member his or her own say. “This isn’t an issue where the State Senate will cut off debate in any sort of expedited manner,” says Davis. “There will be every effort made to ensure that senators will have every opportunity to say everything they want to say.” Get ready for this from Toms mouth.... quote:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...o-rip-down-fla/ Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:I mean at this point we've had everything up to and including Guy Walks Into Church During Bible Study And Murders Black People While Saying I Hate Black People and people still refuse to admit racism is a thing. They admit racism is a thing that Obama is making worse.
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Jun 23, 2015 18:32
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Swan Oat posted:What's stopping you? Deface the monuments! The aforementioned jail sentence is enough of a deterrent - call me a chicken hawk. That, and the fact that defacing a monument is a great way to get people who might be sympathetic otherwise to not support your cause. Statue martyrdom, if you will. I am tempted to go spit on Jefferson Davis' grave now, though.
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Jun 23, 2015 18:39
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Get ready for this from Toms mouth.... “There will be every effort made to ensure that senators will have every opportunity to say everything they want to say.” This is a very good thing, I think. So much blatant racism will be outed because of something like this. 
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Jun 23, 2015 18:42
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zxqv8 posted:“There will be every effort made to ensure that senators will have every opportunity to say everything they want to say.” I read that as, "We're going to drag this out for weeks and hope that everyone just forgets."
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Jun 23, 2015 18:53
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Fried Chicken posted:Symbols matter, that's why we make symbols in the first place. I should've been more clear. I meant that from their perspective, it's just damage control. From the perspective of the rest of the country and the next generation, it's a good thing and will hopefully inspire more to not go down that path.
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Jun 23, 2015 18:59
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my bony fealty posted:Seriously though, I live a block away from the Robert E. Lee monument and drive by effigies to noted traitors Stonewall Jackson, JEB Stuart, and Jefferson Davis like every day and it's rather grating. Surprised no one's defaced them yet. I don't know. Do British people deface images of traitors like Washington and Jefferson? (I imagine some do, but who really cares?)
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spacetoaster posted:I don't know. Do British people deface images of traitors like Washington and Jefferson? (I imagine some do, but who really cares?) Lol no. There's a statue of Washington next to the national gallery in trafalgar square for god's sake. 
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Jun 23, 2015 19:01
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Oh Todd Wow EBay is really stopping sales
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Jun 23, 2015 19:02
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Disinterested posted:Lol no. There's a statue of Washington next to the national gallery for god's sake. Of course if half of England was still lionizing him, and shooting up schools in the name of the insurrection, people might.
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Hasters posted:Of course if half of England was still lionizing him, and shooting up schools in the name of the insurrection, people might. Quite. It wasn't exactly the end of the world for Britain to lose the 13 colonies, just a political scandal and a matter of personal anguish for George III. There was plenty of support for the revolutionary cause, too, from such heavyweight radicals as Pitt the Elder.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:06
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Hasters posted:Of course if half of England was still lionizing him, and shooting up schools in the name of the insurrection, people might. Yeah it's a different situation I think, the Confederacy is dead and gone while Britain is Our Special Relationship. If the CSA was an extant nation that the USA was allied with then it would make more sense to commemorate their heroes.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:09
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Oh Todd Man, I hope nobody tells him about what Germany thinks of Nazis.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:13
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Oh Todd I think I can get behind a #culturalcleansing of the Confederacy.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:14
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Oh Todd eBay and Amazon exercising a lot of discretion over third-party posting may be a road we come to regret going down. Matt Bevin is calling on Kentucky to remove its Jefferson Davis statue
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Jun 23, 2015 19:15
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Fried Chicken posted:eBay and Amazon exercising a lot of discretion over third-party posting may be a road we come to regret going down. ...but they already do, though? I mean, this isn't something new that they've never done before, this is just moving one more item over to their "won't carry" bucket, which already has a ton of things in it from what I remember.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:17
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Oh Todd I like this toddstarnes fella. Seems like its his job to point out all the heinous racist poo poo we need to erase from our country. Keep at it, @toddstarnes! I'll bring the bleach and sledgehammers! #culturalcleansing
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Jun 23, 2015 19:18
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It's far more offensive that eBay refuses to carry most cannabis paraphernalia when it's legal to tens of millions of people.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:18
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Ebay appears to still sell Nazi flag memorabilia.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:19
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Fried Chicken posted:eBay and Amazon exercising a lot of discretion over third-party posting may be a road we come to regret going down. eBay already has had crazy Byzantine rules about what can be sold to whom where. This is nothing new.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:25
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Maybe neoconfederates just have a really bad eBay score.
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ufarn posted:Maybe neoconfederates just have a really bad eBay score. You would be surprised what they're used to getting for free.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:29
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Growing up in Virginia I can't express how happy it makes me that people are finally recognizing the Confederacy and their flag for what it is
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Jun 23, 2015 19:29
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Fried Chicken posted:eBay and Amazon exercising a lot of discretion over third-party posting may be a road we come to regret going down. Amazon allegedly saw sales of Confederate items jump 3000% in the last 24 hours... Trump and Rand have both called for the Confederate flag to be retired. In other news: Here's an interview with Democratic senator Chris Murphy about the Democrats stance on foreign policy.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:30
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Impermanent posted:The substance of his hate seems to primarily have been gleaned from online wellsprings like /poll/ and the various racist subreddits. I am a little bit jealous of your naivete if you think that those sites are the absolute worst examples of racist content on the internet.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:39
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Sir Tonk posted:I should've been more clear. I meant that from their perspective, it's just damage control. From the perspective of the rest of the country and the next generation, it's a good thing and will hopefully inspire more to not go down that path. Well apparently the early release notes on Clinton's next speech say that the topic will be how the anti-confederate push is good, but it is symbolic and not a real solution to America's racial divide
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Jun 23, 2015 19:43
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I guess now is a good time for me to campaign that they change the name of Robert E Lee Middle School here...
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Fried Chicken posted:Well apparently the early release notes on Clinton's next speech say that the topic will be how the anti-confederate push is good, but it is symbolic and not a real solution to America's racial divide So who's still saying she's not a New Deal/Great Society liberal at this point?
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Jun 23, 2015 19:45
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Hasters posted:So who's still saying she's not a New Deal/Great Society liberal at this point? Well I for one am of the opinion that the above kind of liberal would be pushing for more of those policies. That being said I haven't paid enough attention.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:48
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chitoryu12 posted:Ebay appears to still sell Nazi flag memorabilia. We discussed earlier how this "cleansing" of the confederate battle flag is just some BS to make everyone feel better, but not to actually change anything.
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Hasters posted:So who's still saying she's not a New Deal/Great Society liberal at this point? Me, but I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised.
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Hasters posted:So who's still saying she's not a New Deal/Great Society liberal at this point?  me, because she's absolutely a corporatist democrat and was literally on the board of walmart
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Disinterested posted:Lol no. There's a statue of Washington next to the national gallery in trafalgar square for god's sake. The Confederacy is the butt-end of all these jokes because they lost. If they won, they'd have eventually become the United States' #1 trading partner and would have abolished slavery in, I dunno, let's say the 1960s. You know, if they miraculously didn't fall apart from all the debt, inflation and interstate trade conflict post-war. Hasters posted:So who's still saying she's not a New Deal/Great Society liberal at this point?
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Jun 23, 2015 19:59
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If the British would deal with anything it'd probably be the huge statue of Cromwell outside of Parliament.
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this_is_hard posted:
This was discussed elsewhere, wherein she never really went to meetings and pushed for decent policies so much they made a green Walmart they call Hillary's Walmart, but hey, facts never mattered to the ideologues on this forum anyway.
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Alligator Horse posted:I know it's significant that a guy like this is calling for the flag to come down, but holy hell is he off base here. eh, this is good tho: quote:Imagine your great-grandfather was a slave. Imagine your great-grandfather was lynched. Imagine your grandfather was forced to drink from a separate fountain. Imagine your father or mother was murdered by a deranged man with the Confederate flag all over his website.
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computer parts posted:If the British would deal with anything it'd probably be the huge statue of Cromwell outside of Parliament. He's not the most popular figure but he's also an author of our democracy. I can't imagine some of the worse founding fathers are going to stop being commemorated any-time soon!
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Beamed posted:This was discussed elsewhere, wherein she never really went to meetings and pushed for decent policies so much they made a green Walmart they call Hillary's Walmart, but hey, facts never mattered to the ideologues on this forum anyway. lmao please list a single policy that Hilary Clinton has ever championed that is anything close to the New Deal or the Great Society, tia
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Beamed posted:This was discussed elsewhere, wherein she never really went to meetings and pushed for decent policies so much they made a green Walmart they call Hillary's Walmart, but hey, facts never mattered to the ideologues on this forum anyway. You never need to compromise if you don't get invited to the bargaining table!
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this_is_hard posted:lmao UHC?
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