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I find it frankly hilarious that just a page or two ago everybody was complaining that loving NINTENDO had the loving nerve to put out a Metroid game that wasn't about Samus, and when I said that was no biggie everybody told me I was insane. Now Bungie is selling exclusives in a bundle that requires you to buy the game a second time and the game is getting lambasted everywhere from giantbomb to forbes and even other game companies are coming up with ads to take the piss out of it, and you guys think its fine and gamers are being ridiculous? loving brilliant.  If you don't like Federation Force don't buy it! 
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Haha, goddamn. I didn't know about this game before the interview, but that's John Romero levels of hubris. He's basically saying "suck it down, you whore, you know you want it" in less vulgar terms.
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Jun 24, 2015 18:53
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A full game is different than a bunch of animations you will forget even exist within ten seconds of trying them all but thanks for proving that vocal gamers have literally no off switch for stupid
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Jun 24, 2015 18:54
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They're emotes you loving babies. Edit: how dare they give an xp boost to people who are buying into the game late, these people deserve to never ever catch up to their friends.
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Jun 24, 2015 19:08
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Ignite Memories posted:They're emotes you loving babies. They're definitely missing a huge opportunity not to give people an option to buy the extra crap for a ten spot though.
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Jun 24, 2015 19:23
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Zaphod42 posted:I find it frankly hilarious that just a page or two ago everybody was complaining that loving NINTENDO had the loving nerve to put out a Metroid game that wasn't about Samus, and when I said that was no biggie everybody told me I was insane. If lowtax released SA DLC for ten bucks that turned every post of yours into "i'm a butt, i'm a butt, i'm a butt," I'd buy it to support the site but I wouldn't download it because I have a thing about installing redundant software
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Jun 24, 2015 19:44
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I have absolutely no personal experience with Destiny beyond making fun of my friend who takes it super seriously but lol at defending a blatant cash grab. Yeah it's just cosmetic stuff, so loving what, but they're purposely only releasing it the way they are to milk diehard players who have been loyal to their game since the beginning. Lumberjack Bonanza posted:They're definitely missing a huge opportunity not to give people an option to buy the extra crap for a ten spot though. No they aren't because tons of idiots will rebuy the game just to get them.
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Jun 24, 2015 19:47
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Destiny is pretty much an mmo right? There are definitely people in those games that go ape poo poo over limited edition stuff. It doesn't matter what it is, but especially if it changes your character in any way. Hell, right now everquest launched a vanilla server, and people are paying 30bux for a cloak that is +4 wisdom. And no one would ever know you even have the ~best in slot~. darkhand has a new favorite as of 19:54 on Jun 24, 2015 |
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:They're definitely missing a huge opportunity not to give people an option to buy the extra crap for a ten spot though. For now they'll get every cent out of the whales with no impulse control, then in a few months it'll be all "oh we've heard your comments, here's a special opportunity". You know, price discrimination to gobble up all the consumer value and all that. I guess it's a brilliant move in marketing, as long as they can take the reputation hit. Which they can, because everyone else is doing it, Bungie's just being more blatant.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:If lowtax released SA DLC for ten bucks that turned every post of yours into "i'm a butt, i'm a butt, i'm a butt," I'd buy it to support the site but I wouldn't download it because I have a thing about installing redundant software Good one. I don't get this.
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Peanut President posted:I don't get this. The Popehat tweet is a joke. I'm not surprised you didn't get it.
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Peanut President posted:I don't get this. The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) in the US got hacked, leaking SSNs and personal details of every person who has ever worked for the government.
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Jun 24, 2015 19:57
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I have absolutely no personal experience with Destiny beyond making fun of my friend who takes it super seriously but lol at defending a blatant cash grab. Yeah it's just cosmetic stuff, so loving what, but they're purposely only releasing it the way they are to milk diehard players who have been loyal to their game since the beginning. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/destiny-dev-promises-loyalty-perks-after-collector/1100-6428389/ And now they're backpedaling slightly to save face, but they aren't giving early adopters the same emotes, they're giving early adopters their own emotes. Special emotes. Just for them.  I don't exactly see the issue with the Collector's Edition bonus items, those pretty much will act as a jump-start for new players to get in the same ballpark as the people who bought the game earlier. The bonus emotes will probably still end up like $5-$10 DLC down the line. Everything else is just a cheaper bundle of DLC, which is exactly what Game of the Year editions are and every loving AAA game has those now. Like, if you're angry over bonus items (to get new players up to your level faster), emotes (that you will get to buy eventually anyway), and somebody paying less money on a bundle that you knew was going to happen, what's wrong with you
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Jun 24, 2015 20:00
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Game company's marketing move attracts such a widespread backlash from fans and gaming media that it gets coverage in mainstream financial publications like Forbes. Goons in Dumb Moves in Marketing thread: STOP BEING BABIES THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS THING
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death .cab for qt posted:Like, if you're angry over bonus items (to get new players up to your level faster), emotes (that you will get to buy eventually anyway), and somebody paying less money on a bundle that you knew was going to happen, what's wrong with you They are MMO players. There are lots of things wrong with them.
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Jun 24, 2015 20:11
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pookel posted:Game company's marketing move attracts such a widespread backlash from fans and gaming media that it gets coverage in mainstream financial publications like Forbes. Seriously what the gently caress goons. Its straight Romero in the year 2015.
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ah yes of course the esteemed and noted video game journalism community is up in arms about this it must surely be a serious issue e: hey zaphod you're a total idiot and Hitchhiker's fans are proto-doctor-who weirdos
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Jun 24, 2015 20:16
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Maybe no one cares because video games are dumb toys which have always had dumb marketing
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Ryoshi posted:e: hey zaphod you're a total idiot and Hitchhiker's fans are proto-doctor-who weirdos poo poo dude you really burned me good there.  Doctor Who? What filth!Did English science fiction kill your parents or something? Last Chance posted:Maybe no one cares because video games are dumb toys which have always had dumb marketing But just a few pages ago the goons were out with pitchforks over a 3DS game for kids, so that's not it.
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Jun 24, 2015 20:28
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All goons are the same. We are one hivemind, and you, the Not Goon, have discovered the hypocrisy
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Zaphod, you have a truly uncanny talent for making me roll my eyes even when I agree with you in principle. At any rate, I think most people who enjoy video games have issues with high-priced DLC and little extras developers want to nickle and dime people with. Yes, this is not a new problem, and no, you don't have to buy these products, but I think it's silly to pretend there's nothing to be discussed there in the marketing thread.
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death .cab for qt posted:All goons are the same. We are one hivemind, and you, the Not Goon, have discovered the hypocrisy Of course its not a hive mind. I'm sorry I didn't use the word "some" but you could figure it out. I could have said "guys" instead of "goons" would that make you happier? He said nobody cares and clearly a bunch of people in this thread do. But I guess if its a game they don't like then whatever.
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That game journalism rag, Forbes.
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Have we gotten to the point in the derail yet where multiple posters nonchalantly tell us how much they don't care about anything to do with video games? Even if a game company did lovely marketing and it's the lovely marketing thread? C'moooon someone tell me how much you don't care about those stupid dumb baby toys for dumb human being babies. I need this.
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Jun 25, 2015 00:03
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Are there pics of these emojis? I cannot imagine a new smiley face that would make me want to pay real money for it.
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Jun 25, 2015 00:47
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FIDEO BAMES
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I'd call DLC a dumb move in marketing. It's incredibly smart in regards to bringing in new revenue and frankly, exploiting the obsessive nature of hardcore gamers. But it just looks like such a cash grab. It wasn't great at first. 2 bucks for horse armor and poo poo. But now? They have DLC that are just loving cheat codes. Pay 10 bucks and you can unlock everything. What happened to loving CHEAT codes not being built in? It just seems like the AAA game market is really going to gently caress itself. I mean, at some point people are just gonna finally stop buying half-finished games, etc. Right? Right?
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thewireguy posted:Are there pics of these emojis? I cannot imagine a new smiley face that would make me want to pay real money for it. Not emojis, I don't think (ugh, hate that term) - these are moves for characters to do in-game to interact with other players. At least, that's what my 10 minutes of reading up on this game has suggested.
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Boywhiz88 posted:I'd call DLC a dumb move in marketing. It's incredibly smart in regards to bringing in new revenue and frankly, exploiting the obsessive nature of hardcore gamers. But it just looks like such a cash grab. It wasn't great at first. 2 bucks for horse armor and poo poo. But now? They have DLC that are just loving cheat codes. Pay 10 bucks and you can unlock everything. What happened to loving CHEAT codes not being built in? http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Early%20Access/  e: For a better one http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/17/5912245/yogscast-kickstarter-failure-crowdfunding-risks Or hell, just kickstarter.com Postal Parcel has a new favorite as of 01:21 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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You know who's willing to repeatedly pay small amounts of money for cheat access? Children.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/business/whole-foods-accused-of-overcharging-in-new-york-city-stores.htmlquote:The New York Department of Consumer Affairs accused Whole Foods Market on Wednesday of overstating the weight of some prepackaged products sold in the company’s stores in the city. Whoops! Looks like the coveted strategy of "steal from customers" didn't have quite the millenial draw they expected. btw this is also apparently a thing with Whole Foods nationwide.
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pentyne posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/business/whole-foods-accused-of-overcharging-in-new-york-city-stores.html When I was in the retail industry, I got to talk to someone with Weights and Measures who came by to test our scales. He told us of how one time he caught a gas station that rigged the pumps to overcharge 15%. They confiscated his entire business and fined him something like $50,000. Don't mess with your scales, folks.
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Evilreaver posted:When I was in the retail industry, I got to talk to someone with Weights and Measures who came by to test our scales. He told us of how one time he caught a gas station that rigged the pumps to overcharge 15%. They confiscated his entire business and fined him something like $50,000. So the advice for life is: Don't gently caress with the IRS, and don't gently caress with Weights and Measures.
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KakerMix posted:So the advice for life is: Don't gently caress with the IRS, and don't gently caress with Weights and Measures. It's one of those really, really minor things that people will lose their loving minds over. Case in point, after the Norman occupation of England there was a ton of local resistance and resentment against the Normans and any Norman plans. But, there was a case where a noted English coin mint was found to have been lying about the value of the coinage (replacing silver/gold with lesser metals, not saying anything) and the Normans executed everyone involved. Shockingly, very few English people were bothered by it because gently caress that, it's our money. I think the practice comes from the expectation that people aren't going to actually weigh and measure products and instead trust the person selling them, and since Whole Foods is "luxury" foods they didn't expect their clientele to fret over a little extra here and there. Then it just snowballed to paying 20-48% more because, gently caress it, they didn't notice the smaller stuff.
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Ten bucks a pound for goddamn chicken fingers is already highway robbery, so why not just tack on false labeling to go with it.
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Boywhiz88 posted:I'd call DLC a dumb move in marketing. It's incredibly smart in regards to bringing in new revenue and frankly, exploiting the obsessive nature of hardcore gamers. But it just looks like such a cash grab. It wasn't great at first. 2 bucks for horse armor and poo poo. But now? They have DLC that are just loving cheat codes. Pay 10 bucks and you can unlock everything. What happened to loving CHEAT codes not being built in? Horse armour was appropriately mocked by everyone when it came out. If it was released today people would snap it right up.
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Oh to be back in the days when EA released bonus cars for Need for Speed on their website. Nowadays each one would cost $10. Bethesda also released little armor and weapon quests from time to time. I recall another early one from the horse armor days that was roundly mocked was some Japanese air-fighting game where there were unique skins based off some anime characters. The kicker was that if no one else had brought the skins only you were able to see your pretty pink plane in deathmatches.
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Mr. Flunchy posted:How are they forcing people to do anything?! Zaphod42 posted:Its pretty hosed up. Lumberjack Bonanza posted:They're definitely missing a huge opportunity not to give people an option to buy the extra crap for a ten spot though. Boywhiz88 posted:I'd call DLC a dumb move in marketing.
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Tiggum posted:Only if it doesn't work (which it clearly does, very well). Counterpoint: Evolve
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