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Terry Glenn posted:If Stanley Johnson is available, OKC promises to send Charlotte both of Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones +14 for 9. OKC gets a little cap relief and a two-way wing. Charlotte saves itself from Kaminsky, gets a talented player who needs a fresh start in Lamb & expiring young reclamation project in Jones, and can move down further with Boston, Spurs, whoever. Let's do it, forums trades rule. If there was a gm that could pull this off i5 would be presti
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I have no idea who the Spurs should draft, so I'm mostly hoping for a big trade/free agent signing.
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Yung Jacques posted:Hibbert was actually a first option No he wasn't. Jeff Green was, at least in Hibbert's best year. I guess he was their leading scorer the next year after Green left, but it wasn't by much and he was only scoring like a point more a game than the year before. He never has looked especially fluid offensive either. MourningView fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Metapod posted:If there was a gm that could pull this off i5 would be presti I don't think it would take a wizard to pull that off. Lamb's going to be a good bench scorer for someone, it's just a question of whether teams want to surrender an asset to get him next season or wait for his FA.
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Terry Glenn posted:If Stanley Johnson is available, OKC promises to send Charlotte both of Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones +14 for 9. OKC gets a little cap relief and a two-way wing. Charlotte saves itself from Kaminsky, gets a talented player who needs a fresh start in Lamb & expiring young reclamation project in Jones, and can move down further with Boston, Spurs, whoever. Let's do it, forums trades rule. Lamb and Perry Jones are both busts. That's essentially trading a bunch of random crap for the 9th pick. Nobody should take that deal. You'd have to include Kyle Singler or something otherwise of value. I guess Charlotte is hosed
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Terry Glenn posted:I don't think it would take a wizard to pull that off. Lamb's going to be a good bench scorer for someone, it's just a question of whether teams want to surrender an asset to get him next season or wait for his FA. That is a big question Dejan Bimble posted:Lamb and Perry Jones are both busts. That's essentially trading a bunch of random crap for the 9th pick. Nobody should take that deal. You'd have to include Kyle Singler or something otherwise of value. Lamb cannot be considered a bust because brooks wouldn't put him on the court because of ~reasons~
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Dejan Bimble posted:Lamb and Perry Jones are both busts. That's essentially trading a bunch of random crap for the 9th pick. Nobody should take that deal. You'd have to include Kyle Singler or something otherwise of value. Lamb isn't junk. OKC has failed to develop him, but his numbers are good. Certainly a lot better than Singler's. It's all good though, I'm just homering around making up ideal deals.
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Metapod posted:That is a big question Maybe? Maybe not. They were such a thin team, you'd think he would have showed something if he was ever going to.
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I've been thinking long and hard on this and I believe it would be great if my team could trade some guys I don't think are any good, for a lottery draft pick. Who says no?
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Terry Glenn posted:Lamb isn't junk. OKC has failed to develop him, but his numbers are good. Certainly a lot better than Singler's. It's all good though, I'm just homering around making up ideal deals. Charlotte just got Lamb for Matt Barnes (or something), so your dreams came true in a lovely monkey's paw way
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rabidsquid posted:I've been thinking long and hard on this and I believe it would be great if my team could trade some guys I don't think are any good, for a lottery draft pick. Who says no? Possibly not the Pacers quote:
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morestuff posted:Charlotte just got Lamb for Matt Barnes (or something), so your dreams came true in a lovely monkey's paw way Probably just cap relief for OKC. Lamb & Kemba ride again in the pros.
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Why is Kaminsky treated like a flaming bag of dog doo around here, where in the draft would he be considered good value rather than a draft disaster?
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chunkles posted:Why is Kaminsky treated like a flaming bag of dog doo around here, where in the draft would he be considered good value rather than a draft disaster? "Old, unathletic tweener types that can't defend and don't really have the athleticism to score in the NBA" is not the best archetype to fall under
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chunkles posted:Why is Kaminsky treated like a flaming bag of dog doo around here, where in the draft would he be considered good value rather than a draft disaster? Un-athletic white players in the lottery tend to be busts. I think we recognize Kaminsky's skills, his passing and his shooting, his crafty scoring. But it will be hard for him to do stuff we expect bigs to do, rebound and defend well around the basket. I think there are guys with higher upside in the top 10. If anyone wants him past that, it wouldn't be offensive. Getting someone functional is usually a victory at 10+
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I think the next tier, which I think Frank is part of, starts at pick 12.
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MourningView posted:No he wasn't. Jeff Green was, at least in Hibbert's best year. I guess he was their leading scorer the next year after Green left, but it wasn't by much and he was only scoring like a point more a game than the year before. He never has looked especially fluid offensive either. They were both mediocre prospects, Thabeet just chose the right time to enter. Hibbert probably would've gone top 5-10 if he'd left earlier, and Thabeet probably would've dropped under another year of scrutiny.
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Terry Glenn posted:Probably just cap relief for OKC. Lamb & Kemba ride again in the pros. Hooray
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No dumb Lakers fans, D'Angelo Russell is not the best passer since Magic No, he isn't Rubio with Curry's jumper No, he doesn't have better court vision loving Chris Paul No, he isn't a taller and more athletic Steph Curry I've made up 0 of those comparisons, and those were all posted in the last hour or two
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It's good to know that while Lakers fans are dormant on the surface they are still breeding underground like the orcs in Lord of the Rings, just waiting for the Lakers to be relevant again so they can show up to Rockets Warriors games in Kobe jerseys
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chunkles posted:It's good to know that while Lakers fans are dormant on the surface they are still breeding underground like the orcs in Lord of the Rings, just waiting for the Lakers to be relevant again so they can show up to Rockets Warriors games in Kobe jerseys Am I not supposed to do that? EDIT: It was actually a Gasol shirt, but gold blends in with yellow at Warriors game The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Nah I would totally do that if I was a Lakers fan
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chunkles posted:It's good to know that while Lakers fans are dormant on the surface they are still breeding underground like the orcs in Lord of the Rings, just waiting for the Lakers to be relevant again so they can show up to Rockets Warriors games in Kobe jerseys Secret breeder reporting for duty.
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The Glumslinger posted:No dumb Lakers fans, D'Angelo Russell is not the best passer since Magic I can stomach it more than "Muiday is Jason Kidd, and it'll only take three or four years for him to get that jumper!" Like poo poo, it took Jason Kidd like a decade to get a jumper, even if the athleticism was a fair comparison. chunkles posted:Nah I would totally do that if I was a Lakers fan I thought it would've been really funny to show up to the box I sat in for a Suns game this year in a Fisher jersey. In the end I decided to be professional but I am not totally sure it would've mattered because the corporate big wigs from the company that got us the box watched like five minutes of basketball in the second quarter after talking with each other in the back the rest of the time and then left. E: Maybe judging someone's love of basketball on Suns/Utah in like April isn't fair. Rick fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Rick posted:In the end I decided to be professional but I am not totally sure it would've mattered because the corporate big wigs from the company that got us the box watched like five minutes of basketball in the second quarter after talking with each other in the back the rest of the time and then left. No, totally fair. I am entrenched enough in corporate-world to be certain those people had no soul left. Judge away, they are simply cicada shells with VP titles now.
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The Glumslinger posted:No dumb Lakers fans, D'Angelo Russell is not the best passer since Magic
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Kings mocked to get Porzingis. Someone compared him to Anthony Davis (skillset and slender build) so I'm 100% on board now
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WhyteRyce posted:Kings mocked to get Porzingis. Someone compared him to Anthony Davis (skillset and slender build) so I'm 100% on board now
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@abe_squad Actual exchange today: Me: "If you could go to dinner with any 3 people...?" Porzingis: "Rihanna, Beyonce and Jay-Z—like a double date." I hope it goes better than the Drummond/iCarly date
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Joel Embiid is NOT gonna be happy that Kristaps wants to date his girlfriend
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According to Ken Burger from cbs sports: "If Emmanuel Mudiay falls to the Pistons at No. 8, they might be inclined to take him and let Reggie Jackson walk as a free agent. “They’re not 100 percent sold on Reggie,” a league source said. Detroit also likes Justise Winslow and Mario Hezonja at that spot, sources said, though Hezonja isn’t expected to get past the Magic at No. 5."
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Why is Cauley-Stein falling outside the top 10 on so many draft boards? Each time I saw him in college he was an absolute defensive beast. I understand him not being at the top of the draft but I have to imagine at worst he'll be a really good defender for a team. And he has the physical tools to be an elite defender. Even if his offense is garbage, that's one really good NBA skill you can bank on.
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Niwrad posted:Why is Cauley-Stein falling outside the top 10 on so many draft boards? Each time I saw him in college he was an absolute defensive beast. I understand him not being at the top of the draft but I have to imagine at worst he'll be a really good defender for a team. And he has the physical tools to be an elite defender. Even if his offense is garbage, that's one really good NBA skill you can bank on. Injury + concerns of future injury http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25221818/report-willie-cauley-steins-injury-history-giving-teams-pause
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Dejan Bimble posted:Un-athletic white players in the lottery tend to be busts. I think we recognize Kaminsky's skills, his passing and his shooting, his crafty scoring. But it will be hard for him to do stuff we expect bigs to do, rebound and defend well around the basket. I think there are guys with higher upside in the top 10. If anyone wants him past that, it wouldn't be offensive. Getting someone functional is usually a victory at 10+ So, some weird amalgamation of Ryan Anderson, Luis Scola, and out-of-shape Lamar Odom?
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Niwrad posted:Why is Cauley-Stein falling outside the top 10 on so many draft boards? Each time I saw him in college he was an absolute defensive beast. I understand him not being at the top of the draft but I have to imagine at worst he'll be a really good defender for a team. And he has the physical tools to be an elite defender. Even if his offense is garbage, that's one really good NBA skill you can bank on. His medical are scary and Hezonja and The Zinger have risen.
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I'm convinced over my long history of following the draft process (this year, last years and Derrick William's year) that guys being good defenders is worthless (although maybe being awful matters).
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Kibner posted:So, some weird amalgamation of Ryan Anderson, Luis Scola, and out-of-shape Lamar Odom? He's not going to be a post offense machine like Scola, he's not that strong, and he's crafty but not that crafty, Scola is a really big guy, not Lanky like Kaminsky. Quicker NBA defenders won't let him set up and wiggle his way to the rim the way they did in college. Anderson maaaaayyybe, if his shooting translates and his release is fast enough, Odom like in his versatility, maybe but out of shape lamar odom in real life was really bad. The comp that's easiest for me to visualize is Brad Miller as a three point shooter, without the rebounding, with passing. Or Kelly Olynyk but with a higher ceiling/Spencer Hawes with a higher ceiling. Rick posted:I'm convinced over my long history of following the draft process (this year, last years and Derrick William's year) that guys being good defenders is worthless (although maybe being awful matters). Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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 Jeez can't a guy just be a 7 footer who likes to knock down a couple threes without being Dirk or doomed to failure
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