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The real protaganist of Part 5 is the turtle. Not Polnaref, just the regular turtle.
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Giorno's Gold Experience seems like the kind of thing that in any other shonen would either be something that just gets used really badly and robs it of any tension at all. Or is the power of a bad guy and it somehow gets overcome by punching it even harder because. This being Jojo's, I can feel safe in guessing that neither of those will be the case here.
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Jun 25, 2015 13:46
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littleorv posted:Oh I didn't realize there was such a thing as phreaking. I googled it and I understand now, thank you. Now it is time to go back to reading Jojo. Yeah that's one of those times where JJBA shows its age. Around 92-93, kids of the age where they'd be reading the manga would probably have heard about phreaking in the news at some point. It only made sense to me when I first read it because I learned about it when I was studying network security.
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Jun 25, 2015 14:13
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Dragonatrix posted:Giorno's Gold Experience seems like the kind of thing that in any other shonen would either be something that just gets used really badly and robs it of any tension at all. Or is the power of a bad guy and it somehow gets overcome by punching it even harder because. This being Jojo's, I can feel safe in guessing that neither of those will be the case here. Honestly? In my opinion Gold Experience kind of ends up like Star Platinum mkII. It just doesn't matter as much because Part V does a much better job balancing its cast.
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Jun 25, 2015 14:37
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Gold Experience kind of gets overshadowed by all the other crazy Stands in Part 5. Sticky Fingers, Moody Blues, Aerosmith, Sex Pistols, etc.
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Jun 25, 2015 15:06
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Whenever I think of Part 5 I'm always soured by how lame the ending was. Like, gold experience gives you several options to beat out mr. time-eraser that aren't "I'm Literally Unkillable, I Win"
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Jun 25, 2015 15:37
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BlitzBlast posted:Honestly? In my opinion Gold Experience kind of ends up like Star Platinum mkII. It just doesn't matter as much because Part V does a much better job balancing its cast. Did Abaccio or however you spell his name even do anything aside from early on on that boat and late on when uncovering the Passione leader's identity? I don't remember "can rewatch scenes as re-enacted by my stand" ending up useful most of the time.
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Jun 25, 2015 15:38
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Yeah that's one of those times where JJBA shows its age. I disagree. Because the part is set during a specific time in the 90s. I similarly feel that Stardust Crusaders has a very 80s feel to it because of when it's set. Battle Tendency and Phantom Blood stand out from that IMO, as while they're set in specific times, the story elements don't really seem to touch the plots. I do think manga translators should put little trivia notes at the end of the chapters explaining certain things like that which isn't common knowledge these days. And if we get it animated, maybe translator notes in a text file accompanying the episode?
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Jun 25, 2015 15:42
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a cartoon duck posted:Did Abaccio or however you spell his name even do anything aside from early on on that boat and late on when uncovering the Passione leader's identity? I don't remember "can rewatch scenes as re-enacted by my stand" ending up useful most of the time. He does clever stuff with it once or twice. Not as much as the others, admitedly.
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Jun 25, 2015 15:44
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Sekkira posted:I disagree. Because the part is set during a specific time in the 90s. I similarly feel that Stardust Crusaders has a very 80s feel to it because of when it's set. Battle Tendency and Phantom Blood stand out from that IMO, as while they're set in specific times, the story elements don't really seem to touch the plots. I could see them adding in one of those narrator moments where he explains the whole concept right after it happens.
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Jun 25, 2015 15:47
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That would work too.
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Jun 25, 2015 16:05
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a cartoon duck posted:Did Abaccio or however you spell his name even do anything aside from early on on that boat and late on when uncovering the Passione leader's identity? I don't remember "can rewatch scenes as re-enacted by my stand" ending up useful most of the time.
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Jun 25, 2015 16:26
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Kabanaw posted:I could see them adding in one of those narrator moments where he explains the whole concept right after it happens. Diavolo's King Crimson -EXPLANATION- Part 1. e: 
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Jun 25, 2015 16:30
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Sekkira posted:I disagree. Because the part is set during a specific time in the 90s. I similarly feel that Stardust Crusaders has a very 80s feel to it because of when it's set. Battle Tendency and Phantom Blood stand out from that IMO, as while they're set in specific times, the story elements don't really seem to touch the plots. Following the Hunter Exam you have Kurapika explaining it to Gon in very clunky, dated terms, only for it to end up a few arcs later as on par if not better than our own Internet even though not even a full year has passed in-universe.
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Jun 25, 2015 17:47
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When the SC gang is about to go scuba diving, Joseph tries to teach them some basic hand signs, (and Polnareff teaches us a more advanced hand sign  ) and then someone says "why don't we just talk through our stands?" and everyone is like "yeah, good call!" Does that just mean that stand users can speak to each other telepathically? Otherwise how would a non-humanoid stand like Hermit Purple talk? Or is this some nonsense like how apparently Zoro in One Piece can communicate with swords in his mouth because he "speaks from his heart"?
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Jun 25, 2015 19:03
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Yeah, they can talk to each other telepathically. It's portrayed pretty weirdly at times, but stuff like Dark Blue Moon had him doing that and some later stuff does it too. It just kinda happens too, like no one ever explains it and it owns.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:04
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There are some stands that straight up talk, Star Platinum makes his own battlecry for example, where Josuke (4) says his own, which probably means CD doesn't. That was probably just written for the sake of having a joke though and you aren't expected to over-analyse it. It's inconsistent though, because Joseph picking up on Jotaro wanting to cheat D'Arby the Gamer is written as though he instinctively picked up on it, but if they can talk telepathically, that's not really something they'd go for.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:06
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Sekkira posted:I disagree. Because the part is set during a specific time in the 90s. I similarly feel that Stardust Crusaders has a very 80s feel to it because of when it's set. Battle Tendency and Phantom Blood stand out from that IMO, as while they're set in specific times, the story elements don't really seem to touch the plots. I don't know what you think I meant, because all I meant by "showing its age" was "this was written in the 90's".
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Jun 25, 2015 19:15
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a cartoon duck posted:Did Abaccio or however you spell his name even do anything aside from early on on that boat and late on when uncovering the Passione leader's identity? I don't remember "can rewatch scenes as re-enacted by my stand" ending up useful most of the time.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:34
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Aurain posted:It's inconsistent though, because Joseph picking up on Jotaro wanting to cheat D'Arby the Gamer is written as though he instinctively picked up on it, but if they can talk telepathically, that's not really something they'd go for. Maybe when they talk telepathically it's like conventional talking in that it's just as audible as regular speech? Good grief, I just remembered how I used to watch Kratt's Creatures when I was 7 and 8 and I actually believed that the dialog spoken during the parts where the brothers were scuba diving was actually them talking while they were swimming but in hindsight they must have done the audio later in ADR...unless they were stand users.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:34
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Davinci posted:the real protagonist of Part 4 is the town of Morioh. the real protagonist of part 4 is the friends we made along the way a cartoon duck posted:Did Abaccio or however you spell his name even do anything aside from early on on that boat and late on when uncovering the Passione leader's identity? I don't remember "can rewatch scenes as re-enacted by my stand" ending up useful most of the time. He made Giorno drink his piss and revealed an impression of Diavolo's face that in retrospect, didn't look like Diavolo at all.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:35
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Don't forget about Grey Tower and The Lovers and a bunch of other stands talking and taunting the team. It's not like there wasn't any precedent for that being a thing stands could do, Joseph just forgot about it.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:37
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Aurain posted:That was probably just written for the sake of having a joke though and you aren't expected to over-analyse it. It's inconsistent though, because Joseph picking up on Jotaro wanting to cheat D'Arby the Gamer is written as though he instinctively picked up on it, but if they can talk telepathically, that's not really something they'd go for.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:37
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Aurain posted:There are some stands that straight up talk, Star Platinum makes his own battlecry for example, where Josuke (4) says his own, which probably means CD doesn't. Crazy Diamond is definitely the one saying it.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:43
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Crazy Diamond is definitely the one saying it. Actually, I think you're right. I may be misremembering because Josuke does do it himself at times.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:45
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Davinci posted:It's not like there wasn't any precedent for that being a thing stands could do, Araki just forgot about it.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:50
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Sort of related to stands being able to talk, I kinda wonder what's the logic behind voice casting for the ones who have a different will/personality than that of their user. I know in ASB that Koichi and Echoes Act 3 (and Mista and Sex Pistols in the old Vento Aureo game) share a voice actor, but Whitesnake, GER, and Sex Pistols have a different one from their users. Would a projection of your own soul really not speak in your own voice or is it some arcane voice acting industry/business decision thing? (I know Diavolo and Doppio have different voice actors in ASB too but I'm like 85% sure that was to get Ishida Akira in the game  )
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Jun 25, 2015 19:53
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Sky High is easily one of the dumbest stands in the entire series.
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I don't know what their logic behind that was, but I don't like half of the voice acting in ASB anyways, so it just compounds another problem. I've never liked stands not being voiced by the same VAs as their users since, as you said, they are an extension of the user's will.
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standard owl posted:He made Giorno drink his piss and revealed an impression of Diavolo's face that in retrospect, didn't look like Diavolo at all. ...what did that even accomplish? I mean, they get a look at Diavolo's face - but it's totally unimportant, because Diavolo is the one who ends up hunting them (and Polnareff) down. And even so, Polnareff immediately contacts the gang anyway. I get that it was done on Araki's part to show that his death wasn't in vain, but... it kinda was. Normally, he seems pretty good about avoiding pointless deaths. Even the sheer madness and carnage of Part 6's ending had a point to it, where every single one contributed to what ultimately brings down Pucci. But in Part 5, Abaccio dies, the gang is effectively dead in their tracks, and only Polnareff saves the day - and Narancia dies the very second he throws up a single death flag. (Funny enough, not long after they get their stand power-up, which doesn't make any difference whatsoever for anyone...) Underworld is the superior Moody Blues anyway. 
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Jun 25, 2015 19:59
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The only stands that should have different voices are truly independent stands like Cheap Trick, though I can see the argument for Sex Pistols because they're all different personalities. Changing their voices up for comedy would work, though I guess the range of the VA plays into it too here. e: Typo
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Jun 25, 2015 20:00
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What did making Giorno drink piss not accomplish?
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Jun 25, 2015 20:01
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Torquemadras posted:Normally, he seems pretty good about avoiding pointless deaths. I see you've yet to read Steel Ball Run.
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Jun 25, 2015 20:07
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The Part 5 crew succeeded because they had Giorno with them. Those who survived survived because of Giorno. In order to gain their trust and join with them in the first place, Giorno had to drink piss tea. The results speak for themselves.
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Jun 25, 2015 20:07
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Bad Seafood posted:The Part 5 crew succeeded because they had Giorno with them. Those who survived survived because of Giorno. I guess you could say.....the world will remember only the results.
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Jun 25, 2015 20:36
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Beef Chief posted:What did making Giorno drink piss not accomplish? i just read that bit again and it owned. giorno turning one of his teeth into a jellyfish so he wouldn't have to drink the piss was funny as hell and one of the best uses of a stand in the series. also where the gently caress is this month's jojolion
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Jun 25, 2015 20:39
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If Jellyfish are 98% water, does that mean Giorno drank 2% of the piss?
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Jun 25, 2015 20:40
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drink teh piss, giorno
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Jun 25, 2015 20:40
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i mean, i would rather drink 2% piss than whole piss. my taste in milk also mirrors this.
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Drinking piss: A true Gold Experience.
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