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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-25/bernie-sanders-gains-on-hillary-clinton-in-bloomberg-early-state-polling Interesting that her favorables are still going up in Iowa.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-25/bernie-sanders-gains-on-hillary-clinton-in-bloomberg-early-state-polling   I expect around here (maybe a bit more for Bernie in NH) is where the polls might stick at least until the debates.
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also keep in mind this is the first jump with those numbers, we'd need another poll to make sure this isnt an outlier/issue with polling methodology but imo thats cool
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Litany Unheard posted:He picked it when he was a child while watching The Brady Bunch. This is normal. I have a friend who was asked to pick an English name when she started kindergarten. She picked "Vinnie" because she thought it sounded cute. No one told her it was a boy's name. I knew two Vietnamese brothers who chose Tom and Jerry due to the cartoon. Tom eventually changed to Tim once he realized being named after a pair of cartoon characters wasn't hip past grade school.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:also keep in mind this is the first jump with those numbers, we'd need another poll to make sure this isnt an outlier/issue with polling methodology but imo thats cool It's actually a decline for Bernie in NH based on the last two polls, which were both in the low 30s, but yeah the Iowa jump will need to be confirmed.
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Donald Trump did a stupid: http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/25/media/univision-donald-trump-mexicans/index.html?sr=fbmoney062515trump1040story quote:Univision is canceling its telecast of the Miss USA pageant, an event partially owned by Donald Trump, to protest Trump's offensive remarks about Mexicans.
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Also lol, http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/claire-mccaskill-bernie-sanders-criticizes-liberal-2016-morning-joe-119419.html quote:Claire McCaskill, a major Clinton ally, unloads on Bernie Sanders I don't believe I've ever read a MSM article about Bernie that didn't describe him in the first few sentences as a "self-declared Socialist."
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Isn't being prejudiced against prejudice just a form of… Prejudice? Checkmate.
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Litany Unheard posted:He picked it when he was a child while watching The Brady Bunch. This is normal. I have a friend who was asked to pick an English name when she started kindergarten. She picked "Vinnie" because she thought it sounded cute. No one told her it was a boy's name. I only bring it up because until this morning, I thought his given name was Bobby.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Also lol, Yeah, calling Bernie a Socialist isn't really an attack so much as it is free publicity.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Donald Trump did a stupid: Trump, of course, is taking this well 
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Next Bernie will hit us with the stunning revelation that he is white.
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Vertical Lime posted:Trump, of course, is taking this well lol Trump is a genius. This is only going to increase his polls.
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Jun 25, 2015 17:53
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I like how he had to be sure that we knew their contract was "signed and fully effective". Isn't that the only difference between a contract and a sheet of paper?
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Jun 25, 2015 17:59
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Trump is a Negative Publicity Elemental. Any attempts to fight him with it only further increases his strength
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Vertical Lime posted:Trump, of course, is taking this well Is...is this written in third person?
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Alter Ego posted:Is...is this written in third person? Yes, but he forgot half way. Edit: He just forgot at the last sentence. Or maybe he was breaking the 4th wall to talk directly to the Mexican people?
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Vertical Lime posted:Trump, of course, is taking this well This whole statement is written in the third person and then in the last sentence, it suddenly switches to the first. I know in the grand scheme of all things Trump, this is a minor quibble, but it's just so weird. Edit: Ah, so you guys noticed this as well.
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From a few pages ago, but Trump really has the strangest mannerisms in his speech:The Donald posted:...and if you look at black and African-American youth...  Does anyone know of a site or service that collects and provides access to every public statement made by presidential candidates? Wanna do some mining...
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Jun 25, 2015 18:22
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, calling Bernie a Socialist isn't really an attack so much as it is free publicity. And its a great general election move for Clinton. She's going to proudly run to the center of Sanders in the primary and use that to limit Republican attacks on her as too leftist.
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Jun 25, 2015 18:47
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I will be surprised if Republicans even bother to mention Sanders except as a joke candidate. She will still be framed as a left wing extremist if their narrative requires it.
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nachos posted:I will be surprised if Republicans even bother to mention Sanders except as a joke candidate. She will still be framed as a left wing extremist if their narrative requires it. And that line of attack will be less effective because she'll have run to the center of a real honest socialist in the primary. Look at 2008, part of the reasons the socialism attack on Obama work so well is because he ran to the left of Clinton. Running as far to the center as you can while still winning the primary is a pretty successful strategy.
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Republicans seem caught in this middle ground with Sanders between wanting to dismiss him as a socialist and wanting to prop him up as a true challenge to Hillary. The conservative media likes to talk about "Bernmentum" a lot but its really meant to drag Hillary down. But they have to act like he can overtake her and be a serious contender for it to work.
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Reminds me of how they treat PoC (particularly black people). Simultaneously a force to be reckoned with and a weak entity that has no power.
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I hope that he also tells him, with due respect, that he didn't want to be there before he expounds upon a strange list of unrelated topics, which seems to be the new Trump Brand.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:22
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How many paid actors will be at this one?
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Jun 25, 2015 19:23
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Vertical Lime posted:Trump, of course, is taking this well Has he ever in his life apologized for anything?
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rear end cobra posted:
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Has he ever in his life apologized for anything? Apologies are not a part of the Republican Platform. 
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site posted:Reminds me of how they treat PoC (particularly black people). Simultaneously a force to be reckoned with and a weak entity that has no power. Hmm...that almost sounds like the theoretical "Ur-fascism" described by the Italian author Umberto Eco.
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God, I keep feeling like I'm having the best dream and I can wake up at any minute. 'A reception in his honor'. Honestly, if we could somehow harvest energy from The Donald's ego, the oil companies would go out of business. 
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Bicyclops posted:Apologies are not a part of the Republican Platform. They kind of are though: "President Obama should apologize for ________________ immediately!"
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Kit Walker posted:A friend of mine who lives in New Orleans and who I sincerely believe would castrate Jindal given a pair of rusty shears and five minutes alone with him posted this article which should answer any questions: http://m.thenation.com/blog/210793-bobby-jindal-broke-louisiana-so-badly-even-gop-doesnt-want-him Hah quote:In Louisiana, his approval rating is 10 points lower than President Obama's—a shocking gap, considering the contempt many Louisianans hold for the president, who lost the state by 17 points in 2012. Things are so bad for Jindal that his constituents would rather vote for Hillary Clinton.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Has he ever in his life apologized for anything? A search for Donald Trump apologies leads to a bunch of news articles from the last election where he tells other candidates not to apologize for things. Apparently the few times he has ever actually apologized, he gets his assistant to do it. Like when one of his hotels mistakenly kicked out one of the Duck Dynasty guys for being a hobo.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Has he ever in his life apologized for anything? He has his own way of saying 'sorry'. 
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Joementum posted:He has his own way of saying 'sorry'. He's such a repulsive rear end in a top hat.
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There's legitimate reasons the guy is worthless, I honestly don't see the need to lie and pretend he's a bad businessman because he uses bankruptcy law to his advantage. The whole line of argument -- he's a bad businessman!! -- is stupid to begin with, by using it you are implicitly agreeing that the president should be a good businessman. At any rate you aren't going to convince anyone but the choir that a person with a personal wealth of over a billion dollars is terrible at business.
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Sorry if this has been posted around, but Christie is going to announce. http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/25/417458360/christie-to-announce-tuesday-that-hes-running-for-president I am very, very eager for Christie and Trump to share a debate stage.
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LeeMajors posted:He's such a repulsive rear end in a top hat. He's essentially a business PUA. He goes around negging people, businesses, or the entire city of Baltimore to make himself look discerning and sharp.
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