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G-III posted:Holy crap, that was terrible. This franchise needs to be put to sleep for a very long time. This is like a terminator saturday morning cartoon just with the unfortunate handicap of being filmed in live action. Maybe its just that I'm watching it in a little youtube window but it all looks really flat like a mediocre t.v. show. Bland lighting, bland set, bland everything. Not enough of a sample to assume the whole movie looks like that though.
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Basebf555 posted:Maybe its just that I'm watching it in a little youtube window but it all looks really flat like a mediocre t.v. show. Bland lighting, bland set, bland everything. Not enough of a sample to assume the whole movie looks like that though. It looks very Marvel-esqe, for whatever biases you put on that phrase. The exchange at the end especially ("I can work with that").
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Darko posted:Well, Bill and Ted figured it out fairly quickly... Picard is just too prudent to ask for the right stuff in this Earl Grey 
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The thread's kinda fallen into a rut of "everyone says it looks bad, but Cameron says it is good, but critics say it looks bad, but someone thinks it looks good...." So what you're saying is that John Connor is Ronald Reagan.
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Jun 25, 2015 16:49
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Much like Jurassic World, the thread leading up to the release is doomed to be more entertaining than the movie itself. 
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Jun 25, 2015 17:21
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What happened to the Matt Smith character in the previews? I remember terrible pictures of him from EW or whatever Hollywood magazine that was, and he has a couple of super-quick cameos in the trailers, but but nothing more.
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Jun 25, 2015 18:37
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Sasquatch! posted:What happened to the Matt Smith character in the previews? I remember terrible pictures of him from EW or whatever Hollywood magazine that was, and he has a couple of super-quick cameos in the trailers, but but nothing more. I think I read that he's got a bigger overall part in the trilogy their planning, but its also possible he's just a weird looking dude that they hired to look off-putting in a handful of scenes. He's not really a well-known actor.
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Jun 25, 2015 18:40
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Basebf555 posted:I think I read that he's got a bigger overall part in the trilogy their planning, but its also possible he's just a weird looking dude that they hired to look off-putting in a handful of scenes. He's not really a well-known actor. You really have no idea how popular Doctor Who is do you? People know who he is.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:07
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Basebf555 posted:I think I read that he's got a bigger overall part in the trilogy their planning, but its also possible he's just a weird looking dude that they hired to look off-putting in a handful of scenes. He's not really a well-known actor. If you go to any store that even passingly caters to nerds, you'll see his face plastered everywhere.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:10
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CelticPredator posted:If you go to any store that even passingly caters to nerds, you'll see his face plastered everywhere. Hot Topic, Spencers, Gamestop, Hastings, Barnes & Nobel are all stores that frequently have huge DW displays. TRU has started carrying DW merch, Target has some now and even JC Penny has shirts. There's about to be a LEGO Doctor Who launch. It's pretty much the most well known and watched SciFi series on the planet currently. But no, nobody knows who Matt Smith is.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:17
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Rhyno posted:You really have no idea how popular Doctor Who is do you? People know who he is. In America its a moderately popular T.V. show. I have a job that gets me out of the house and I have a normal social life, yet nobody I know would recognize the name Matt Smith and only a few would know his face. Its a niche show.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:20
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CelticPredator posted:If you go to any store that even passingly caters to nerds, you'll see his face plastered everywhere. I'm not talking about nerds. I'm talking about the other 99% of people I encounter on a daily basis. Edit: Also I never said nobody knows who he is, I said he's not a well-known actor, which he absolutely isn't.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:22
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They may not know. But their brain does.
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Basebf555 posted:I'm not talking about nerds. I'm talking about the other 99% of people I encounter on a daily basis. Basebf555 posted:In America its a moderately popular T.V. show. I have a job that gets me out of the house and I have a normal social life, yet nobody I know would recognize the name Matt Smith and only a few would know his face. Its a niche show. Just because you feel it's a niche show doesn't mean it is. It had multiple events where episodes were shown in theaters all across the country and every screening sold out. More people watch DW than the number of people who will go see this movie.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:30
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Rhyno posted:Just because you feel it's a niche show doesn't mean it is. It had multiple events where episodes were shown in theaters all across the country and every screening sold out. More people watch DW than the number of people who will go see this movie. He is also an extremely well known actor in the UK. And he is a drat good one at that despite his funny looking head. Look at this scene, one of his best, I loved it, just look at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F84WapAH7M
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Jun 25, 2015 19:34
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Rhyno posted:Just because you feel it's a niche show doesn't mean it is. It had multiple events where episodes were shown in theaters all across the country and every screening sold out. More people watch DW than the number of people who will go see this movie. The fandom is absolutely rabid, there's no arguing that, and the show is certainly more popular than ever. It used to be a niche within a niche, where even your average sci-fi fan in America didn't watch it. I just don't feel its broken through to the mainstream to the extent that you do. Of course we both have nothing but anecdotal evidence to argue with so this isn't going anywhere.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:He is also an extremely well known actor in the UK. And he is a drat good one at that despite his funny looking head. He's extremely well known worldwide. I have friends who don't even own TVs and they know who he is. There are bars that have DW nights all over the loving country. Basebf555 posted:He's not really a well-known actor. But this I guess.
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Or check this with Matt Smith, and The Girl Who Waited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BUumw7f8EQ
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Hey I love Matt Smith, he's my favorite Doctor. I've seen every single episode of the revival series, so I consider myself a big fan. I wish everyone at my office was talking about Dr. Who the day after it airs but they don't.
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Matt Smith not famous is a really weird thing to argue for. Doctor Who is like the second most famous TV show to come out of the UK. Top Gear is the biggest and Sherlock close third IMO. He might not be Cumberbatch famous, that being said I don't know who plays Conner or Reese.
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oohhboy posted:Matt Smith not famous is a really weird thing to argue for. Doctor Who is like the second most famous TV show to come out of the UK. Top Gear is the biggest and Sherlock close third IMO. He might not be Cumberbatch famous, that being said I don't know who plays Conner or Reese. Smith is being careful about what roles he takes in America because he saw how David Tennant's career took a nosedive here (it's getting better). He's been offered literally hundreds of roles. He turned down a role in the Hobbit and the new Star Wars. I don't know what made hi think Terminator was a good place to start his American film career but he must have his reasons.
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Looking at the basic structure of Genisys, I'm sure on paper and as a pitch it sounds like an amazing movie. Plus easy $$$ since it will get heavy marketing and stars Arnold.
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Jun 25, 2015 19:59
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And the part of my original post that didn't result in the derail mentioned how I thought I had read something about his part being expanded in a planned sequel. I don't have a source for that though and may have that wrong. Plus it seems like this movie may underperform(it could never actually bomb) so there may be no sequel.
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Neo Rasa posted:Looking at the basic structure of Genisys, I'm sure on paper and as a pitch it sounds like an amazing movie. Plus easy $$$ since it will get heavy marketing and stars Arnold. Smith was probably a huge fan of the first two films so yeah, this probably sounded like a good opportunity.
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Basebf555 posted:And the part of my original post that didn't result in the derail mentioned how I thought I had read something about his part being expanded in a planned sequel. I don't have a source for that though and may have that wrong. Plus it seems like this movie may underperform(it could never actually bomb) so there may be no sequel. Unless it super bombs, the movie will get sequels. They have this whole thing set up for the trilogy because after that they lose the Terminator rights entirely
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Basebf555 posted:And the part of my original post that didn't result in the derail mentioned how I thought I had read something about his part being expanded in a planned sequel. I don't have a source for that though and may have that wrong. Plus it seems like this movie may underperform(it could never actually bomb) so there may be no sequel. He definitely has an expanded role in the sequels, massively so. And the two sequels are already outlined and in pre-production .
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People saying there will be no sequel.... I thought they filmed all three of the new trilogy back to back.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:People saying there will be no sequel.... I thought they filmed all three of the new trilogy back to back. Mother of God. I try not to be too down on this but the idea of there being two more after this no matter what is hella depressing.
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Rhyno posted:Smith is being careful about what roles he takes in America because he saw how David Tennant's career took a nosedive here (it's getting better). He's been offered literally hundreds of roles. He turned down a role in the Hobbit and the new Star Wars. I don't know what made hi think Terminator was a good place to start his American film career but he must have his reasons. Are you this guy's agent or something? All of your reasoning sounds like you're talking about Benedict Cumberbatch or Martin Freeman or someone who's actually popular outside of nerds. Also lol at "being careful about choosing his roles" and not understanding the reasoning why he took this role. As his agent I figured you'd understand how money works.
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Grendels Dad posted:Mother of God. I try not to be too down on this but the idea of there being two more after this no matter what is hella depressing. Not if Arnold follows us all the way through!
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Burkion posted:Not if Arnold follows us all the way through! At this point I wish Arnold would conserve his strength for when he shows up in a Marvel movie as Nick Fury's father.
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I'd love to see Arnold do a Predator sequel. I mean really, who gives a poo poo at this point, he certainly doesn't.
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Parachute posted:Are you this guy's agent or something? All of your reasoning sounds like you're talking about Benedict Cumberbatch or Martin Freeman or someone who's actually popular outside of nerds. I LOVE HIM DON'T QUESTION OUR LOVE OKAY I WILL CUT YOU.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:People saying there will be no sequel.... I thought they filmed all three of the new trilogy back to back. No, not at all. They're fast-tracking the next two movies, yes, but Genisys was shot on its own.
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Timby posted:No, not at all. They're fast-tracking the next two movies, yes, but Genisys was shot on its own. That does kind of make me want to see Peter Jackson's Terminator.
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Timby posted:No, not at all. They're fast-tracking the next two movies, yes, but Genisys was shot on its own. Good god.
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Burkion posted:Not if Arnold follows us all the way through! It is funny if you think about it: Arnold is a different Terminator (who dies) in every one of the movies. There's no real continuity, but it FEELS like there is.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Good god. No fate but what we make.
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Sasquatch! posted:What happened to the Matt Smith character in the previews? I remember terrible pictures of him from EW or whatever Hollywood magazine that was, and he has a couple of super-quick cameos in the trailers, but but nothing more. I think the biggest reason they are hiding him from any promos is because MEGASPOILERS he is playing Skynet and it is really difficult to cut material for the trailer without spoiling that. Having just seen the film, I am surprised how much I didn't hate it. I went in kind of wanting to laugh at how bad it would be, but it was actually quite interesting and funny. The third act is your usual cgi-shitfest like everything else these days, but the first half is good enough to sit through the rest. Yes, Jai Courtney is still a generic dude v2 (but has probably the funniest lines and delivers them on point), and the timelines and scifi-jargon is so messy that turning off your brain is required (for real, not in a "it's a lovely movie, have fun" way), otherwise you'd die trying to think it through. Arnold's performance wasn't as "robotic" as it used to be (you could say that's due to his character's time spent among people learning how to act, but it doesn't explain why he still can't smile without looking like a retard) and he was basically the comic relief of the movie most of the time. Some people will hate this film for whatever reasons, but I'm glad that they basically went "gently caress it" and floored it. It's kind of like Jurassic World in how they are referencing the originals but still trying something new, expect this doesn't feel so cynical and meh. That's why people are probably going to either really like it or hate it. It's kind of batshit crazy. For example: The main characters get arrested in the middle of the day/afternoon but the film suddenly cuts to night (still on the same location) only to have a Cops (bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?) reference/parody out of nowhere. That happens, among other things. not trolled not crying fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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