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Internet Kraken posted:I'm amazed they're nerfing stealth squid because that ability was already VERY questionable to use over cold-blooded/some other shirt slot. Now even more so since the swim speed is gonna be even closer to just creeping through ink without it. Frankly I don't think any ability should be nerfed right now when so many are completely useless, should be buffing the worthless ones instead. Yeah at this point, depending on how bad the nerfs are, I think that leaves Cold-Blooded as the only unquestionably worthwhile ability.
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Internet Kraken posted:I mean why nerf ink resist? Its the perfect example of an ability that NEEDS to have a dramatic effect otherwise it would never be worth using. Ink resistance neutralizes one of the core elements of the entire game in a phenomenal way, I'm more surprised that getting a 68% movespeed buff in enemy ink ever passed testing to begin with, or became a skill at all.
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Trent posted:So I guess what I'm asking is, is everywhere included in some spatfest region, or are you SOL if you live in a certain place? Yeah, everyone gets a splatfest. AU/NZ are part of the PAL region which includes EU, South Africa and some other countries.
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I'd say recon is also a good shirt slot ability since it can act as a pseudo stealth jump, allowing you to see if position is gonna be safe before jumping into it. It also lets you jump back to base for tactical ink strikes, a trick which is quite useful for ink brush players. Ink resist being nerfed means stealth jump is unquestionably the best shoe slot, even with the nerf it will get unless its HUGE, so get ready to see crazy arrows on everyone's feet.Reiley posted:Ink resistance neutralizes one of the core elements of the entire game in a phenomenal way, I'm more surprised that getting a 68% movespeed buff in enemy ink ever passed testing to begin with, or became a skill at all. That's kind of the point? I mean this wouldn't be an issue if there was anything else in the boot slot worth using other than stealth jump. Now its probably gonna be nerfed to the point where the effect is so minor it might as well not exist. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jun 26, 2015 |
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Jun 26, 2015 03:13
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So this can happen
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Internet Kraken posted:That's kind of the point? I mean this wouldn't be an issue if there was anything else in the boot slot worth using other than stealth jump. Now its probably gonna be nerfed to the point where the effect is so minor it might as well not exist. Like Kaubocks said, it's way better that that poo poo doesn't matter than making it an issue of picking your stats carefully. Ideally this game is a shooter, not an MMO.
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Reiley posted:Like Kaubocks said, it's way better that that poo poo doesn't matter than making it an issue of picking your stats carefully. Ideally this game is a shooter, not an MMO. Since when does having abilities that actually make a difference make your game an MMO? It means people can actually do more than one playstyle with a gun, which gives the game more depth. The problem with Splatoon's implementation of skills is that so many of them don't do anything so its pointless, but that doesn't make skill systems themselves a bad thing.
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Assuming ink resistance is like 40% or 50% now it will still be really good for kiting based weapons. The squiffer, the squelcher, the splat charger to a lesser degree, etc. Possibly even better since your shots are more likely to gently caress up your enemie's movement. ^^ Different playstyles are fine but boots had a best-in-slot option, torso clothing had three options that were significantly better than any of the generics in any situation (except Recon if you don't die much), hats still have tenacity as a catch-all good thing but it can still be worth taking other abilities over it. Count Uvula fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jun 26, 2015 |
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Jun 26, 2015 03:22
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Reiley posted:Like Kaubocks said, it's way better that that poo poo doesn't matter than making it an issue of picking your stats carefully. Ideally this game is a shooter, not an MMO. Then why make abilities at all? Keep in mind that the shooters, chargers, blisters, rollers and inkbrush already have distinct methods of play, not to mention how the load outs on the weapons also influence play to a significant extent. So why make another superficial layer of strategy that doesn't actually matter?
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So what actually is changing about the Inkstrike?
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Then why make abilities at all? Keep in mind that the shooters, chargers, blisters, rollers and inkbrush already have distinct methods of play, not to mention how the load outs on the weapons also influence play to a significant extent. So why make another superficial layer of strategy that doesn't actually matter? They're nice little perks, like moving a little quicker or having a bit of damage resistance. The ones that can't show up as sub abilities kind of turn it from little perks into a Big Thing, and I think that was a mistake in design because that's all people are gonna pick, and that puts more emphasis on little perk numbers than they really need for a shooty game.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Then why make abilities at all? Keep in mind that the shooters, chargers, blisters, rollers and inkbrush already have distinct methods of play, not to mention how the load outs on the weapons also influence play to a significant extent. So why make another superficial layer of strategy that doesn't actually matter? I would unironically be down for all abilities being removed from the game
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Barely any of the abilities do anything in the first place. I remember busting out a chart of all the brands and abilities and whatnot and trying to plan out what I should use but after seeing hard numbers of what increases/decreases what, I prefer to STAY FRESH.
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Kaubocks posted:I would unironically be down for all abilities being removed from the game I'd be fine too. But letting them live in this zone where they sorta matter but sorta don't is rather irritating. If you're going to play them up then make them mean something. As it is I have 100k sitting around because the few good abilities are on so little equipment and opening/rerolling slots matters so little that there's no reason to use Spyke or buy anything other than weapons. I mean seriously: if the slots matter so little, why make them cost so much to open or reroll?
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Jun 26, 2015 03:38
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They should just make skills assignable via Spyke. Want Ink Resist on your Cream Basics? Drop a ton of coins in the back alley and you've got it. Though I'm also fine with the "Look cool and screw stats" method.
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they're really just there for the slight edge in high ranked play , or placebo effects, and im perfectly fine for that.ComradeCosmobot posted:
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I'd prefer it if skills were substantial but I wouldn't care too much if they were removed entirely cause then you could wear whatever you want. Right now they just exist in this state where a handful of skills are way better than all the others so you always want them. Nerfing those skills won't really help unless they are MASSIVE nerfs, but even then there are skills like tenacity or recon where they can't really be nerfed in a traditional way because they just provide a unique function. My ideal system would be removing sub skills entirely, making all the main skills substantial, but also allowing them to be put on any piece of gear so we can stay fresh.
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It seriously bugs me that the main buffs are tied to the gear, with no chance of being variant. Kinda takes the oomph out of the clothing aspect.
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My fix would be to make abilities be more powerful, but you can only have one at a time. Each piece of clothing would have an ability, but you can only pick one of those abilities to be active at a time. More ability slots just means more potential choices. The upside would be that each ability would be a major effect. Invisible Squid-Form, Major Ink Resistance, Halve Ink Consumption by Primary/Secondary Weapon, etc. Your loadout is effectively one weapon and one specialty. That said, I don't mind the current system. My main issue with it is how the precise mechanics of things like Damage Up aren't explained anywhere in the main game.
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Jarogue posted:So this can happen someone tell me again how nintendo didn't make these squids to be sexed
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Jarogue posted:So this can happen .... That squid got a butt? I guess? Not sure what's the big deal is here.
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if you could stop posting about sexy squid penises that would be phenomenal. once we get over that hurdle maybe we'll work on you stop posting forever.
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no one has posted a hypothethical penis in at least 1 and a half days get over your penis envy it's not healthy
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All those people asking for more hairstyles finally got their wish
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That looks pretty finished, are they holding off on this stuff for later just so they'll have stuff to give away as the game ages?
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I'd hope for a humanoid Male Octoling, too. But who knows if the female one was even made to be playable.
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What am I even looking at? Are Octolings going to be future unlockable character types?
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noirstronaut posted:What am I even looking at? Are Octolings going to be future unlockable character types? They just use the same animation bones as the inklings so that the developers didn't have to make a second set of animations for them. While it makes it really easy for Nintendo to make them a playable character later, the fact that they're missing eyes kinda indicates it's not some locked content on the disc.
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noirstronaut posted:What am I even looking at? Are Octolings going to be future unlockable character types? it could just be the NPC AI models you fight in singleplayer swapped with the player character model, but a lot of player only effects like the glowing hair on on a fully charged special does work with it so who knows. Count Uvula posted:They just use the same animation bones as the inklings so that the developers didn't have to make a second set of animations for them. While it makes it really easy for Nintendo to make them a playable character later, the fact that they're missing eyes kinda indicates it's not some locked content on the disc. My bet's on an octoling Singleplayer campaign where you play a double agent or something. Tengames fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Jun 26, 2015 |
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Watching it again, I think I really misunderstood. Maybe it was something that was scrapped, maybe it's something planned for a future mode?
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It's difficult to pull any conclusions about art assets until they're used. If they're used at all, anyway. Better just wait and see.
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Count Uvula posted:They just use the same animation bones as the inklings so that the developers didn't have to make a second set of animations for them. While it makes it really easy for Nintendo to make them a playable character later, the fact that they're missing eyes kinda indicates it's not some locked content on the disc. Nah they have eyes. They just don't blink. Edit: 
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I take it the fact that I laughed at the squidbutt means that this probably isn't a video game I should play?
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Nah they have eyes. They just don't blink. What the gently caress. How do I get this? Why is this going on? Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:I take it the fact that I laughed at the squidbutt means that this probably isn't a video game I should play? Play this video game.
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Fix posted:What the gently caress. How do I get this? Why is this going on? Only works when you have the golden Mario amiibo.
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Lemming posted:Only works when you have the golden Mario amiibo. I keep mashing Silver Mario against the gamepad and sobbing and all I get is a message from Spyke saying he's raising my rates until I buy in completely.
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It's a shame because I feel like certain abilities can really make up for the shortcomings of certain weapons, and that's more fun because then there's more viable ways to play! So I'm all for nerfing abilities to being just 'nice-to-haves', but then the weapon selection really needs to be balanced out a bit more.
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