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Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Dragongem posted:

Did Vit0 for my first time on Elite NORD. When he popped out death landed first try. I'm super lucky :v:

For the EX Boss Rush I didn't bother with Death -- didn't have the spare ability slot and if you can make it through 70% of his hp to pop the pod you can make it the last 30%.

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!

EscortMission posted:

After 7-8 runs of no orbs at all, I am now a believer in Granaldo Claus.



Thank you Granaldo Claus.

Agreed.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
Japan's new event has Golden Saucer/weekend-grade daily login prizes. Including a 5 star staff. :toot:

Bobulus posted:

I did a 3x pull on Squall's banner, hoping to get a FF8 sword.

...I got a second Revolver for Irvine. Guess that's my first 6* weapon. :getin:

Keep it and give it to Lightning and you will have a back row spellblade user.

Seriously, for the Nth time don't combine non-unique 5 star relics. We're lacking some of the gun users but there's plenty of useful ones and even if you don't use Irvine in FF13 content for whatever reason you can toss the guns on Lightning and Sazh. Or use two gun users in 90% of content, sitting in the back row doing solid damage. Having a pair of 5 star guns to toss around would be more useful than a pair of random swords.

the Orb of Zot posted:

So yeah, if anyone plays Japan, I pity you.

https://xn--ffrk-8i9hs14f.gamematom...9421;&%2338291;(難易度???)

It's FFV's Omega, with every single thing about it kept intact, including the bullshit counters, the instant-death blaster, the blind and silence inducing rainbow wind, the multiple attacks that don't give any poo poo about your defenses (Blaster, the confusing 50% current HP Missile Punch that is a counter, and of course Wave Cannon's half max-HP to entire party), the absorbing everything but it's one weakness (lightning)

It is in a dungeon with no record synergy at all as the only fight, so no charging up soul breaks before hand and no additional boosts to your stats.

The only bright side is that mastering the dungeon gives you squat (10k gil, presumably since they knew that no one would ever master it) and that the reward for beating it, 60k gil + the Omega Medal, isn't that critical.

Also it costs 1 stamina to fight, which is kind of hilarious.


Also hilarious to note:

You can use the event in Japan to get the Warrior job character if you didn't have him yet and he doesn't get a memory crystal even in this event :laugh:

Schwartzcough posted:

You just need to be prepared, like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaQYi1PheiE

My god... those hones.... :stare:

Only 4/4 flare? What a scrub. :v:


e: Oh boy, the final level of the FF4 stages in this new event is the Dark Knight from Mt. Ordeals. With a difficulty level of 110. :shepicide:

e2: Thank god for protectga because he resists breaks. Barely beat him though Sephiroth died in the process. Even with (resisted) power break and protectga his dark wave was doing 900-1200 damage to people.

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jun 27, 2015

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Cecil is dirt easy. 100% of his attacks are physical. Just bring in a single character with Retaliate 10/10 and he'll kill himself.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Sweet, I pulled Squall's weapon. Should help me get through the Elite dungeons in his event.

dipwood
Feb 22, 2004

rouge means red in french
Granaldo runs are legit. I'm getting a G. Orb once every two runs, which fits with the percentages. Maybe I'll be able to hone Bladeblitz due to this.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
How do I beat the flans in FF12's dungeon? Only have enough for one Ifrit summon.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Violet_Sky posted:

How do I beat the flans in FF12's dungeon? Only have enough for one Ifrit summon.

Get a Terra friend summon with Trance Fira.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Zurai posted:

Cecil is dirt easy. 100% of his attacks are physical. Just bring in a single character with Retaliate 10/10 and he'll kill himself.

Hello Cloud power leveling spot.

Psyker
Jun 21, 2004

[Binge and] Purge the xenos!
What would be more advantageous of the following:

• power through all the story missions and elites
• force myself at the current event

I'm leaning towards the first to make sure I unlock all the characters and get heaps of rewards along the way, as well as stamina and mithril. I did get far enough to get Irvine and squall's crystals though.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

Psyker posted:

What would be more advantageous of the following:

• power through all the story missions and elites
• force myself at the current event

I'm leaning towards the first to make sure I unlock all the characters and get heaps of rewards along the way, as well as stamina and mithril. I did get far enough to get Irvine and squall's crystals though.

If you can manage them, at least do the non-Boss event stages. You don't need a particular strategy for em since they are all trash waves + you can get some rewards from em easily

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


The non boss stages are easy if you have the memory crystals you shouldn't have a problem with the trash only stages cheap orbs as a reward.

I wouldn't attempt the last 2 stages (the boss ones) if you don't have a solid group / plan. They are not easy, the last two is kind of where all the events make elite a huge pain.

You can clear classic on the event without any issue though if you haven't done that already.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Psyker posted:

What would be more advantageous of the following:

• power through all the story missions and elites
• force myself at the current event

I'm leaning towards the first to make sure I unlock all the characters and get heaps of rewards along the way, as well as stamina and mithril. I did get far enough to get Irvine and squall's crystals though.

Do as much of the elite as you can, but while White Cape and Leviathan are nice, it's not like you're going to be in some sort of hole forever if you don't get them. Just focus on doing the things that are best for your account right now. If you need stamina, get stamina. If you just really need wind orbs because you're trying to make/hone Bladeblitz, clear the event so you can farm the first EX stage.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
I have determined that I have over 1400 stamina's worth of Elites left to do. It comes out to over 71 hours of stamina! Yaaay..... yay. Ugh, I'll keep killing Granaldo instead.

Although that is 5 more stamina and 22 more Mythril. Hmm...

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

Schwartzcough posted:

I have determined that I have over 1400 stamina's worth of Elites left to do. It comes out to over 71 hours of stamina! Yaaay..... yay. Ugh, I'll keep killing Granaldo instead.

Although that is 5 more stamina and 22 more Mythril. Hmm...

4* orbs regularly from 18 stamina is priceless

Benthalus
Jul 5, 2002

MotU posted:

4* orbs regularly from 18 stamina is priceless

And the elite dungeons will always be there, waiting for you, eventually...

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, while I know I can get a few more stamina from doing more elites, 105 is already quite good, and I have cumulatively earned probably 25 greater orbs already, including 8 greater wind (and getting Bladeblitz to rank 2). I doubt it will get me enough to R3 Bladeblitz or anything but this is really too good to pass up.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
If you have over 100 stamina, you should probably do enough more elites to get to 4 gems for a stamina slingshot (save the elites that only cost ~50, or any normals you have left), and then go farm Granaldo.

When the next event drops, you can clear half of it on normal, do one more classic/elite, and then clear the rest of it in a sitting. Rinse and repeat for future events until stamina is maxed.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
Jenova event coming soon :dance:

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


On one hand, I'll be able to make use of this Masamune that's gathering dust.

On the other hand, I'm only going to have enough mythril for one 50 pull at Red XIII's relic. :ohdear:

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Great White Hope posted:

On one hand, I'll be able to make use of this Masamune that's gathering dust.

On the other hand, I'm only going to have enough mythril for one 50 pull at Red XIII's relic. :ohdear:

If it makes you feel any better, Red is better as a RW anyway.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Zurai posted:

Cecil is dirt easy. 100% of his attacks are physical. Just bring in a single character with Retaliate 10/10 and he'll kill himself.

I already beat him, but you can retaliate against the dark wave aoe ttack?

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Nephzinho posted:

If it makes you feel any better, Red is better as a RW anyway.

Yeah, but I don't have Tyro's Sentinel Tome, so I'd like to get the ability to actually make use of multiple of the great defensive SBs in a single dungeon.

Beasteh
Feb 12, 2012

I'M QUESTIONING MY EXISTENCE AND THIS IDIOT JUST WANTS TO PEE OFF A WALL

Seph reissue, Nanaki, One Winged Angel and diamond hairpin. Hell yes my mithril is aching to be spent.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Red XIII will be part of the event as well (his Diamond Hairpin for Lunatic High is part of the banner) which means we'll prooooooobably get his MC as well, months and months ahead of Japan's schedule for it.

Evil Fluffy posted:

I already beat him, but you can retaliate against the dark wave aoe ttack?

Yep. Dark Wave is a physical attack, so Retaliate works against it. There are some physical attacks which ignore the Taunt skill/Sentinel SB, but so far as I know every physical attack misses and causes a counterattack against a character with Retaliate active.

Zurai fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jun 28, 2015

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
So what are Red XIII's stats/skills like? And what does his special relic do, again?

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
Is Red XIII even minimally useful as a character sans relic? I get the impression that his stats/skill selection is kind of a confused mess. Like, second rate Tyro or something.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Red's not a very good character, alas. He's a melee range support character with almost equal (on the low end for viability in both) physical and magical attack power. He's got Black 3, White 1, Physical 3, and Support 5, but he can only equip fist weapons, hairpins, hats, helmets, and bangles. Spoiler alert: there's exactly two weapons he can equip with any magic on them whatsoever (the 3* hairpin has a little magic and his second 5* hairpin is a hybrid like Terra's Enhancer), so his Black 3 and 121 magic at level 65 are only useful for support magic like Stop.

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Great White Hope posted:

Yeah, but I don't have Tyro's Sentinel Tome, so I'd like to get the ability to actually make use of multiple of the great defensive SBs in a single dungeon.

Yeah, but I feel like having the Sentinel Tome would be better than the pin for the ability flexibility it offers (doing the Squall EX, I spent a ton of time just figuring out how to get everything I needed onto people-- Tyro carrying two unrelated things would've been helpful), and that LH is something you'd want to cast Round 1 whereas Sentinel is something that is often better used later in a fight. For Ex fights that'll matter. I'd rather have Sentinel on the team and bring the LH on summon. I just spent all my mythril trying for Revolver, so I will probably be saving for a later draw.

Zone of Danger
Apr 21, 2010

Nephzinho posted:

For the EX Boss Rush I didn't bother with Death -- didn't have the spare ability slot and if you can make it through 70% of his hp to pop the pod you can make it the last 30%.

I just finished the EX Boss Rush, and it seemed like Norg came out of the pod at more like 95% health to me. I didn't take Death either, but by the time the pod popped I was totally out of abilities and he still died in ~2 rounds of auto attacks.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Nephzinho posted:

Yeah, but I feel like having the Sentinel Tome would be better than the pin for the ability flexibility it offers (doing the Squall EX, I spent a ton of time just figuring out how to get everything I needed onto people-- Tyro carrying two unrelated things would've been helpful), and that LH is something you'd want to cast Round 1 whereas Sentinel is something that is often better used later in a fight. For Ex fights that'll matter. I'd rather have Sentinel on the team and bring the LH on summon. I just spent all my mythril trying for Revolver, so I will probably be saving for a later draw.

Yep. I spent a ton of mythril getting my Sentinel's Grimoire because Tyro is just straight up a better character than Red XIII in this game. I'll get my Lunatic Highs from my friends list. I'm going to try to pick up Sazh's Vega, though, because Sazh is actually an excellent support character (Black 3, White 3, Physical 2, Support 5, and can attack from the back row and wear both light and heavy armor).

dipwood
Feb 22, 2004

rouge means red in french
If I get Red XIII's relic he's probably replacing Tidus in my party. Poor stats or not, that SB is going to save lives.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

...oops. Guess I should have saved some mythril. :/

Spikey
May 12, 2001

From my cold, dead hands!


Zone of Danger posted:

I just finished the EX Boss Rush, and it seemed like Norg came out of the pod at more like 95% health to me. I didn't take Death either, but by the time the pod popped I was totally out of abilities and he still died in ~2 rounds of auto attacks.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

You probably got lucky and had Zantetsuken proc instant death.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Schwartzcough posted:

You just need to be prepared, like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaQYi1PheiE

My god... those hones.... :stare:

Can someone explain why he's using reflect to cast all his spells off his own party onto it?

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Because it counters magical attacks with self-Reflect. That's how he got the Reflect on his own character; note that none of his characters have Reflect as an ability.

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Sitting and waiting for a show to stay in Manhattan, two people in the row in front of me playing this. App has made it.

Dragongem
Nov 9, 2009

Heroes of the Storm
Goon Tournament Champion
I don't know how they expect you to master some of these stages. I lose two medals on damage taken because... the bosses actually put up a decent fight? Jeesh.

So I'll have some extra stamina after I finish the boss rush tonight for XP DAILY GRINDING. Should I;

a) Grind Bard from 30ish to 50 to get his RM
b) Grind BM from like level 7 to try and get his RM
c) Grind WM from like level 12 to try and get the RM


I can probably only get away with one of them because I can't spare two spots for tagalongs.


Also I really wanted the FFXII event. Boooo. Should I blow my 20 mythril or so on this event pull?

Benthalus
Jul 5, 2002

Zurai posted:

Because it counters magical attacks with self-Reflect. That's how he got the Reflect on his own character; note that none of his characters have Reflect as an ability.

Uh, no, you can see quite clearly that Vanille has reflect as her first ability.

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Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Benthalus posted:

Uh, no, you can see quite clearly that Vanille has reflect as her first ability.

Sorry, I was thinking of a different video (one that doesn't use Stop). Mea culpa. Same reason, though; you can't cast single-target spells directly at Omega because he reflects them back at you if you do.

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