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I just started playing again and I am going through my tanks on this x3 weekend. I noticed I was using a poo poo gun on my E-50. In my experience with Wot2.5 years ago, the highest gun on the list was the best gun, but what is the consensus on the E-50s top two guns? It looks like the 8.8cm L/100 may actually be viable? What do you guys who are ~elite tankspergs~ suggest? AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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The Southern Dandy posted:Like this is the most hosed up viewpoint in the game, and so very terribly pubby. There's only arty on the other side, and never on ours. hmm it seems this is actually the most "pubby" post
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Jun 29, 2015 01:17
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The 8.8/L100 is a trap. Don't buy it. The 88mm round gets horribly hosed by shell size vs. armor thickness mechanics at T9.
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Jun 29, 2015 01:18
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[guy who melted down because people made fun of a country singer]: huh these forums have really gone down hill recently
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Jun 29, 2015 01:22
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The 8.8/L100 is a trap. Don't buy it.
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Jun 29, 2015 01:25
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BIG HEADLINE posted:
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Jun 29, 2015 01:39
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Salean posted:what? In real life, a shell that is high enough caliber is less likely to ricochet off sloped armour, and even if it does, it can still rip a huge chunk out of the armour, like so:  In-game, this is modelled by making the shell impervious to ricochet if it's 3 times as thick as the armour it's trying to penetrate, regardless of the angle (even if it's greater than the 70 degree auto-ricochet). In practice, this lets you get ridiculous penetrations through someone's roof if you have enough of a height advantage. For an 88 mm gun, this means you'll only auto-penetrate 29 mm of armour. Tank designers like nice even numbers, so you'll bounce off 30 mm roofs, whereas 105 mm will auto-penetrate 35 mm. In cases where your shell caliber is greater than the armour, but not 3 times greater, the shell has a bonus to normalization, which also helps. In addition, when a shell penetrates the hull of a tank, it deals damage to modules within 10 calibers of the entrance, so extra caliber helps here too.
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Jun 29, 2015 01:56
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yeah i get overmatch but the way destruya phrased it was really really odd
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Jun 29, 2015 02:16
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Prav posted:Well no poo poo it didn't loving work, you barely touched the god drat gold shells. I really don't know what they were expecting to achieve by it. Poors like me might've been stuck mostly firing AP but in any case the rest can buy the almost untouched gold shells and have even more pen than they would've had firing AP before. As for the Mauschen, you mean to tell me that a shittier Maus isn't faring well when dropped into the strongest tier of tanks in the game? I don't believe you! 
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Jun 29, 2015 02:39
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Man, calling it a shittier Maus is being very generous. The drat thing was completely crippled in almost all areas.
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Jun 29, 2015 02:41
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Prav posted:Man, calling it a shittier Maus is being very generous. The drat thing was completely crippled in almost all areas. Probably making it the most "accurate" Nazi shitbox then. 
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Jun 29, 2015 02:46
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"There will be no penetration nerf AT ALL, since the tests have shown that it didn't work. So no changes planned for now (at least summer and autumn will be without changes). Also, Mauschen will not be implemented (it will not be in 9.9 test 2 anymore) because it sucks, devs decided not to put it in." Some leak Rita posted.
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Jun 29, 2015 05:46
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:I'm not clanned up, and know nothing of strongholds unfortunately. Then your a idiot, join 2pac you will fit right in!
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Jun 29, 2015 07:26
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Prav posted:Man, calling it a shittier Maus is being very generous. The drat thing was completely crippled in almost all areas. It's a T95 that's worse in every way.
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Jun 29, 2015 13:19
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This was my most joyous moment in WoT in a long long time.
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Jun 29, 2015 13:36
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:This was my most joyous moment in WoT in a long long time. Was it when someone installed a goddamned crosshair mod for you?
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Jun 29, 2015 14:17
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...No. That's a video link.
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Jun 29, 2015 14:25
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Bort Bortles posted:I just started playing again and I am going through my tanks on this x3 weekend. I noticed I was using a poo poo gun on my E-50. In my experience with Wot2.5 years ago, the highest gun on the list was the best gun, but what is the consensus on the E-50s top two guns? Buy it, put it on your tank, and look how stupid it looks.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:12
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JohnGalt posted:stupid Easy there buddy. 
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Jun 29, 2015 15:17
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Prav posted:Easy there buddy. Can you equip it with the stock turret? Because that would be even more stupid looking.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:37
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Prav posted:
 That is worse than the 7.5cm L/100 the T7 Panther got like three years ago. The thing was a chaingun but the barrel was longer than the tank. I actually kinda miss the thing...it could pen a lot of poo poo for its tier.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:38
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it's 8.8 meters long. it strikes me as somewhat unwieldy and impractical
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Jun 29, 2015 15:40
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Atal Vataman posted:it's 8.8 meters long. it strikes me as somewhat unwieldy and impractical So it was designed by the Germans.
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Jun 29, 2015 16:07
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:...No. That's a video link. Yeah I was just giving you poo poo. The default crosshairs make me  Killing an unspotted tank when aiming at another is the best.
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Jun 29, 2015 16:16
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Loaded, full health T57 Heavy charges FV215B Heavy with 800 hit points, T57 is full. T57 bounces four shots off of the front of the stationary FV as the T57 does a driveby without attempting to turn into the side, or just stop and shoot the lower. He then dies to the FV while on reload, and blames the team for not helping him. Maybe it's time for another break.
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Jun 29, 2015 16:17
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srb posted:Maybe it's time for another break. I made it to the IS-3 after having a 60% winrate in my IS and realized fighting tier 10s in the IS-3 is loving awful so I'm taking a break from the game.
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Jun 29, 2015 16:33
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Atal Vataman posted:it's 8.8 meters long. it strikes me as somewhat unwieldy and impractical Still not the longest German tank gun! The 17 cm StuK L/53 is a little longer. Then, there's always the 8.8 cm L/130 Pak that was so big the barrel had to be designed in three parts for transport.
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Jun 29, 2015 16:44
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Hmm. 
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Jun 29, 2015 16:55
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Haquer posted:I made it to the IS-3 after having a 60% winrate in my IS and realized fighting tier 10s in the IS-3 is loving awful so I'm taking a break from the game. If you can just expose your turret the IS-3 fairs pretty well against tier 10's compared to a lot of tier 8's. Tier 8s in general are awful to play now though. Finally got my bat-chat unlocked. Good tank but isn't as maneuverable as I thought it was. 25K more xp and 4 million credits and I'll have the entire Chinese Line done. Overall I have enjoyed the whole line.
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Jun 29, 2015 17:36
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Atal Vataman posted:Hmm.
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Jun 29, 2015 17:50
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Wargaming sponsored Tankfest (a weekend of live events and what not at Bovington Tank Museum in Dorset, UK) again and were there giving out goodie bags. The only catch was, you had to queue up and take part in a battle. There was a "High 5" competition; you had to use a tier 5 non-premium tank and not go in a platoon and then score over 1500 exp to "win". No idea if there was a prize or not, and when we had got to the front of the queue there was only 1 person that had managed it (1600-odd in a KV-1). Most people were taking tier 10's or premiums, so I'm not surprised. I was only there for the swag, so I just hit "Battle" and can't even remember what I was driving. Near the front of the queue, there was a touch-screen that you could play "guess the tank" by revealing small squares of a screenshot and then identifying the vehicle. They were giving out WoT Generals and/or WoT Blitz booster cards for guessing correctly (not sure what exactly). I got a Wargaming.net Community t-shirt (XXL of course), a card with a bonus code for a Chi Nu Kai, a slot and 3 days of premium. Also an illuminated key-ring in the shape of a light-bulb with "Sixth Sense" etched into it. They were also giving out Google-Cardboard thingies; basically you assemble this cardboard viewer to hold your smart-phone, then use a free app to get a virtual ride in a tank. It's pretty good. A bit weird to see and hear from a moving vehicle while your inner ear says you're standing still though. There was a Wargaming stall selling stuff as well, and I was sorely tempted by the Type-59 t-shirt emblazoned with "WALLET WARRIOR!", but I couldn't think of a time I'd actually wear it.
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Jun 29, 2015 17:50
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WayAbvPar posted:Killing an unspotted tank when aiming at another is the best. I did this earlier too. Some pubbie Chaffee learned not to hide next to a spotted TOG that was pissing me off by shooting me. My S-51 splashed most of the TOG's health off and all of the Chaffee's. We still lost, naturally. Atal Vataman posted:Hmm. The Germans truly were the ur-pubbies. They, too, thought tanks fight 1v1 on a billiard table. The stress on that thing even over relatively even terrain must be absurd, imagine trying to cross ditches or do other tank things.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:11
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WayAbvPar posted:Yeah I was just giving you poo poo. The default crosshairs make me no telling your platoon your going to shoot under a wreck and kill a tank. and the actually doing it is better! 
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Jun 29, 2015 18:13
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Hellsau posted:Also possibly going to not nerf pen due to the tests just not working. Good. Goddamn that was such a stupid idea.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:28
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Didn't WG say that Chinese tanks weren't a priority since a lot of the Chinese players can't run HD tanks? If so have they had a reversal on that opinion since they decided to produce two separate clients and its not really a correct thing anymore?
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Jun 29, 2015 18:29
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rossmum posted:The Germans truly were the ur-pubbies. They, too, thought tanks fight 1v1 on a billiard table. The stress on that thing even over relatively even terrain must be absurd, imagine trying to cross ditches or do other tank things. The reason that their tanks seem specifically designed to appeal to armchair historians and easily excited amateurs. This is of course because they literally were.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:32
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BadLlama posted:If you can just expose your turret the IS-3 fairs pretty well against tier 10's compared to a lot of tier 8's. Most tier 10s can shoot right through the IS-3's turret from the front regardless of the elevation difference. Hell, you can even do it in a T34 or a Lowe. mikemelbrooks posted:no telling your platoon your going to shoot under a wreck and kill a tank. and the actually doing it is better! Shooting anyone who thinks they're 100% safe is pretty much the greatest thing.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:35
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McGavin posted:Most tier 10s can shoot right through the IS-3's turret from the front regardless of the elevation difference. Hell, you can even do it in a T34 or a Lowe. Unless you have a good elevation advantage its weakest part on that turret is like 260mm of effective armor, it bounces plenty of things still. Generally when it gets penned from the front its because its a short tank and hitting that plate on top of the turret isn't hard and it gets Over-matched by low caliber guns.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:52
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Haquer posted:I made it to the IS-3 after having a 60% winrate in my IS and realized fighting tier 10s in the IS-3 is loving awful so I'm taking a break from the game. If you have issues with a fairly mobile tank with great penetration, good alpha, and makes bullshit on the move shots; I don't know what to tell you.
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Jun 29, 2015 19:13
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BadLlama posted:Unless you have a good elevation advantage its weakest part on that turret is like 260mm of effective armor, it bounces plenty of things still. Generally when it gets penned from the front its because its a short tank and hitting that plate on top of the turret isn't hard and it gets Over-matched by low caliber guns. That plate on top of the turret is 20mm thick and gets overmatched by anything over 60mm. Also, thanks to the IS-3's crappy gun depression, there is basically never a situation where the IS-3 can both shoot something and keep that plate hidden.
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