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Rochallor posted:This is pretty cool news for stuff going forward but the Weeping Angels in audio form just sounds like the dumbest loving idea. I have no idea how this is going to work unless they're an extremely minor aspect of whatever story it is. I'm imagining it's like the beginning of Chimes of Midnight.
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I just saw Terminator Genisys... it was a lot of fun, it's a fun time travel movie, and I loved the way it built on the existing Terminator franchise. But if anybody's planning on going just for Matt Smith (or Matthew Smith, as he's credited in it), just a heads up, he's only in it briefly (but he is very pivotal!). And there's an end credits sequence worth seeing.
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thexerox123 posted:I just saw Terminator Genisys... it was a lot of fun, it's a fun time travel movie, and I loved the way it built on the existing Terminator franchise. But if anybody's planning on going just for Matt Smith (or Matthew Smith, as he's credited in it), just a heads up, he's only in it briefly (but he is very pivotal!). counterpoint: it's a terrible movie. with some really weird casting choices.
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Jun 30, 2015 08:02
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Rochallor posted:This is pretty cool news for stuff going forward but the Weeping Angels in audio form just sounds like the dumbest loving idea. I have no idea how this is going to work unless they're an extremely minor aspect of whatever story it is. I don't think it's that dependent on visual cues. They could get a decent story out of them.
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Jun 30, 2015 13:47
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Attitude Indicator posted:counterpoint: it's a terrible movie. with some really weird casting choices. What did you find to be a weird casting choice?
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Jun 30, 2015 14:01
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Bicyclops posted:I don't think it's that dependent on visual cues. They could get a decent story out of them. It's about blinking. It'd be like an episode about a sound monster being completely silent.
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Jun 30, 2015 14:36
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"Oh god, Doctor, I blinked, and now it's a few feet closer to me, its hand outstretched towards me."
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Jun 30, 2015 15:11
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They have that violin sting sound effect whenever they move on the telly, I'm sure they can use that in a similar manner. I mean, I don't exactly think it's a great idea, but it's doable.
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Jun 30, 2015 15:16
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It's a corner they're forced into, though. If you're told 'you can have the monsters from the new show, but not the Doctor/companions, then you HAVE to use the Angels, considering they're the only mainstay the new series has created.
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Jun 30, 2015 15:29
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They'd use the Silence, but nobody remembers them.
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Jun 30, 2015 15:33
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You can probably do the Weeping Angels in an audio now that I think about it, but it can't be 'just an Angels story'. Perhaps they can play with the time-throwing, making the story more about following the Angels' impact than the Angels themselves. That'd probably end up like if Blink focused on the Doctor, but we've always been external to their victims, we've never experienced what it's like to be caught by them beyond the fact that Old Person You is now in a bed somewhere in your native time. There's also an idea that sounds a lot more terrible than it would actually be, setting the entire thing around controlling a video surveillance system. Yes, that would basically be Five Nights at Freddie's, but it's a form of tense horror that would work well for both the Angels and the audio format.
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Jun 30, 2015 16:11
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Android Blues posted:They'd use the Silence, but nobody remembers them. The Silence'd probably work a lot better than the Angels for audio. Although the advantage of Angels is that The Doctor already knew about them in Blink, so it leads to less continuity problems. (Although the Silence do have a self-solving mechanism for that built in...) That said, I reckon it'd be much better to explore some of the more minor new monsters, some of them could be really cool to flesh out. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Jun 30, 2015 16:19
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Gaz-L posted:It's a corner they're forced into, though. If you're told 'you can have the monsters from the new show, but not the Doctor/companions, then you HAVE to use the Angels, considering they're the only mainstay the new series has created. Does anyone remember when the Slitheen were meant to be "the" monster for the revival? You know, the one that was meant to be part of the pantheon, become new recurring enemies? Because they were.
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Jun 30, 2015 16:34
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thexerox123 posted:What did you find to be a weird casting choice? terminator spoilers ahoy: first of, a somewhat well known actor as matt smith to be given two seconds of screentime as a blue shadow. the girl who plays sarah connor looks like a sheltered 14 year old, and not someone who's been fighting and preparing for the worlds end with a murder machine sidekick instead of her parents. kyle reese looks like ha was played by the star of Not another teen movie 13, not someone who's been at war their whole life. and, well, arnold really didn't need to be in this one. I'm all for casting choices that are daring, and with people you wouldn't imediately associate with the part, but then the actors and script actually has to prove to us that they are the right fit for the part. Terminator: genesys doesn't do that at all.
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Jun 30, 2015 17:40
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I feel so weird that I live in a world where I would tell my stepdaughter to only watch the first two Terminator movies, but that she would enjoy all TWELVE Friday the 13th movies…
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Jun 30, 2015 18:07
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CobiWann posted:I feel so weird that I live in a world where I would tell my stepdaughter to only watch the first two Terminator movies, but that she would enjoy all TWELVE Friday the 13th movies… Okay that's not fair. Friday the 13th is this magical entity that is always entertaining no matter how awful it rightfully should be. Comparing it and any other franchise is simply wrong.
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Jun 30, 2015 18:09
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Burkion posted:Okay that's not fair. As someone who spent an entire date night arguing with his wife about the merits of The Final Chapter vs. Jason X, I like this post.
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Jun 30, 2015 18:33
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CobiWann posted:As someone who spent an entire date night arguing with his wife about the merits of The Final Chapter vs. Jason X, I like this post. You have a good life. Thumbs up man.
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Jun 30, 2015 18:55
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Which one is the one where they're in the future and they distract Jason with a holodeck simulation of teenagers making out? I think that one has to be, by definition, the best one. I haven't seen any of the Friday the 13th movies in entirely too long.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:15
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I'd imagine that would be Jason X. On a related note, I watched the first Friday the 13th movie for the first time quite recently and was quite disappointed. It's like Psycho except in reverse and also not good.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:22
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cargohills posted:I'd imagine that would be Jason X. The first Friday is fine if you keep a few things in mind, most notably that no where in the movie is it even implied Jason is or could be the killer. Jason doesn't even get his name said until the actual killer shows up. It also did some really cool things with its cinematography and is a fun slasher in general, helping to codify what Slasher movies would become while remaining largely better than most that would follow. It's A Good Movie with a few notations beside it. Plus, Kevin Bacon. I adore the Friday the 13th Franchise a lot, if it wasn't clear. Some how all of the movies manage to walk this careful tightrope of never losing itself to some of its own stupid ideas. Including Jason Goes to Hell where Jason isn't even in his own body for most of the movie.
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Attitude Indicator posted:terminator spoilers ahoy: More Terminator spoilers: Matt Smith wasn't in this one much, but there are two sequels scheduled for 2017 and 2018... and the end credits scene from this one implied that there will definitely be more Matt Smith. This one was just setting up his character. I thought that Emilia Clark and Jai Courtney were both just fine. And I really disagree about Arnold not needing to be in this one, because the whole thing was based around the continued timeline one-upping. Which is what I loved about it. It had to incorporate Arnold (several Arnolds!) to be able to do that (and then top it by doing what it did with John). Also, they did a fantastic job having Arnold shown at several different ages, I was quite impressed. De-aging isn't always something that's done well. In summation: I disagree. But to each their own.
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docbeard posted:Which one is the one where they're in the future and they distract Jason with a holodeck simulation of teenagers making out? I think that one has to be, by definition, the best one. That one also features Jason killing them, shoving their bodies into sleeping bags and then whacking the sleeping bag against a tree trunk multiple times - it's a glorious mess of a movie.
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Jerusalem posted:That one also features Jason killing them, shoving their bodies into sleeping bags and then whacking the sleeping bag against a tree trunk multiple times - it's a glorious mess of a movie.
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Jerusalem posted:I'm just pleased the Judoon are back, and I want to see(hear) them get into a rumble with the Sontarans. On that note, I'm also gonna throw it in there that BF will make The Shadow Proclamation actually as cool as it was talked up to be.
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Astroman posted:On that note, I'm also gonna throw it in there that BF will make The Shadow Proclamation actually as cool as it was talked up to be. Briggs specifically pointed to the Judoon as the revival monster he most wanted to write into the audios. He's probably had Ideas on this one for a while.
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Burkion posted:The first Friday is fine if you keep a few things in mind, most notably that no where in the movie is it even implied Jason is or could be the killer. Jason doesn't even get his name said until the actual killer shows up. As a huge horror movie fan (my favorite movie is the 1978 version of Dawn of the Dead), I always felt that Halloween created the slasher genre, but Friday the 13th, as Burkion said, codified it. All the “clichés” Halloween did first (Final Girl, sex equals death, the use of a musical motif for the killer), Friday the 13th made standard operating procedures for slasher flicks going forward. It does mean, in my opinion, Friday the 13th doesn’t hold up as well as Halloween today but both are still drat good horror movies in their own right. Friday the 13th is the better series, though. I could watch any of those movies any time they’re on television, even when AMC does their marathons on Friday the 13th and they’re heavily edited. Halloween, there’s only a few I would take the time to watch…heck, this goes for most other “slasher” series as well. For anyone interested, Mark Gatiss actually did a series about the history of horror movies, and touches upon the American slasher genre. It’s very well done, and coming from an American horror fan, refreshingly honest in how most American horror (at the time of broadcast) is run of the mill and boilerplate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EH1FiToj4w This is actually one of the reasons I’m excited about my Tom Baker watch (The Ark in Space this weekend!). Just from basic knowledge of certain serials, I can sense the series shifting away from the “action/sci-fi” overtones of Pertwee’s run towards a more “horror” based tone with adventures like The Brain of Morbius and The Horror of Fang Rock. I’m looking forward to seeing all those “hide behind the couch” moments…
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Well, if you somehow really enjoyed Philip Martin's teleplays for Vengeance on Varos and Mindwarp, I recommend against listening to (or reading, I suppose) Mission to Magnus, which is literally about an evil matriarchy with psychic powers and a hive-mind, who keep men in underground tunnels and use Orwellian mind programming. In the end, the men they're at war with inform them they are going to be wives, and when the women react in horror, the men chuckle at all the sex they are going to have with them. As if that weren't enough, the story pads itself with a bully renegade Timelord who barely features in the story, the return of everyone's favorite capitalist slug, Sil, and the Ice Warriors (entirely stripped of any nuance they may have attained in the Pertwee years). It's one of the most embarrassing messages I've seen "subtly" encoded into science fiction. We should all be very, very glad that Michael Grade's unfair grudge against Doctor Who caused the hiatus.
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Bicyclops posted:Well, if you somehow really enjoyed Philip Martin's teleplays for Vengeance on Varos and Mindwarp, I recommend against listening to (or reading, I suppose) Mission to Magnus, which is literally about an evil matriarchy with psychic powers and a hive-mind, who keep men in underground tunnels and use Orwellian mind programming. In the end, the men they're at war with inform them they are going to be wives, and when the women react in horror, the men chuckle at all the sex they are going to have with them. As if that weren't enough, the story pads itself with a bully renegade Timelord who barely features in the story, the return of everyone's favorite capitalist slug, Sil, and the Ice Warriors (entirely stripped of any nuance they may have attained in the Pertwee years). Guess what other story Mr. Martin wrote? The Creed of the Kromon.
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CobiWann posted:Guess what other story Mr. Martin wrote? Ahahahahahahahaha it all comes together.
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CobiWann posted:For anyone interested, Mark Gatiss actually did a series about the history of horror movies, and touches upon the American slasher genre. It’s very well done, and coming from an American horror fan, refreshingly honest in how most American horror (at the time of broadcast) is run of the mill and boilerplate. I'm not hugely into horror movies (I enjoy the Phantasm series; that's about it) but I like retrospectives about entire genres / companies / record labels / whatever, so I will have to give this a try.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I'm not hugely into horror movies (I enjoy the Phantasm series; that's about it) but I like retrospectives about entire genres / companies / record labels / whatever, so I will have to give this a try. It’s incredibly well done! Gatiss did three one-hour segments – one on 1920’s through 1940’s era that focused on Lon Chaney and the Universal monsters, one on the Hammer era from the 1950’s to the 1970’s, and then the one covering the “slasher” era along with Romero and Cronenberg’s work. He approaches it from the era of a fan, with respect and reverence, even with regards to the “slasher” era which he doesn’t care too much for. He’s more interested in talking to George Romero and John Carpenter than the movies themselves. Oh, and there’s a very lovely sequence with David Warner in the second one.
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Bicyclops posted:Well, if you somehow really enjoyed Philip Martin's teleplays for Vengeance on Varos and Mindwarp, I recommend against listening to (or reading, I suppose) Mission to Magnus, which is literally about an evil matriarchy with psychic powers and a hive-mind, who keep men in underground tunnels and use Orwellian mind programming. In the end, the men they're at war with inform them they are going to be wives, and when the women react in horror, the men chuckle at all the sex they are going to have with them. As if that weren't enough, the story pads itself with a bully renegade Timelord who barely features in the story, the return of everyone's favorite capitalist slug, Sil, and the Ice Warriors (entirely stripped of any nuance they may have attained in the Pertwee years). It's pretty telling that of those lost stories the ones that were furthest away from completion are the ones that come out as being better.
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I've asked before and even got a straight answer, but I'm still confused: Is Vengeance on Varos good or not?
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Dabir posted:I've asked before and even got a straight answer, but I'm still confused: Is Vengeance on Varos good or not? Yes, it's good. Some say it's a classic.
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Dabir posted:I've asked before and even got a straight answer, but I'm still confused: Is Vengeance on Varos good or not? It's definitely the best Colin Baker story, and honestly it's one of my favourite classic Doctor Who stories overall.
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Dabir posted:I've asked before and even got a straight answer, but I'm still confused: Is Vengeance on Varos good or not? The difficulty is that it's really hard not to reply with Wheat Loaf posted:
I do not think it is very good.
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Dabir posted:I've asked before and even got a straight answer, but I'm still confused: Is Vengeance on Varos good or not? I did not enjoy Vengance of Varos very much. The eighties was a weird time for Doctor Who, in Varos the set looked like a laser tag arena and the monster designs were... C. Bakes is a good doctor but more than any other (except 8) he did not get a great shot in his television role. Some people consider it a classic however so maybe you'll enjoy it.
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Bicyclops posted:Well, if you somehow really enjoyed Philip Martin's teleplays for Vengeance on Varos and Mindwarp, I recommend against listening to (or reading, I suppose) Mission to Magnus, which is literally about an evil matriarchy with psychic powers and a hive-mind, who keep men in underground tunnels and use Orwellian mind programming. In the end, the men they're at war with inform them they are going to be wives, and when the women react in horror, the men chuckle at all the sex they are going to have with them. As if that weren't enough, the story pads itself with a bully renegade Timelord who barely features in the story, the return of everyone's favorite capitalist slug, Sil, and the Ice Warriors (entirely stripped of any nuance they may have attained in the Pertwee years). I've only listened to maybe twenty audios and kept away from the books, but that was the single worst Doctor Who story I have ever encountered. It would have been terrible and horrifyingly sexist if it had been produced in the 80's as an actual television story, today it's even worse. cargohills posted:It's definitely the best Colin Baker story, and honestly it's one of my favourite classic Doctor Who stories overall. Yeah, it's the only Colin Baker television story that someone could make a reasonable argument for being actually good. I think it's a really solid effort that's a bit rough around the edges. I really do like the character of Sil, though.
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Listening to Nabil Shaban describe how committed he was to the role and all the stories describing how devoted he was on set (on the special features) was my favorite part of the story. He had written into the show twice, once to suggest he could play the Master after Roger Delgado died and once to suggest he should be the Sixth Doctor, so being on Doctor Who was a real dream for him. He also founded a theatre group which promotes performers with disabilities and does a lot of advocacy there.
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