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Brannock posted:Well, okay, that's an acceptable assertion. Do you support families? Should families be exposed to Gamergate? Exposing children to most gamers is acceptable grounds for removal via CPS, I'd say
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The Larch posted:I'm not sure admitting you hang out with literal neo-nazis is going to help your argument. No, the gamergate irc. its at rizon and its #burgersandfries. Its been very slow for the past few weeks, but if yall really want to argue with some real genuine channer GGers you can go there, as yall seem to have alot of fun with this thread. Again, I'm not a casual 4chan user. I've barely ever been there before gamergate happened. I basically get all my info from the chat, I'm pretty sure it's where they archive everything. afeelgoodpoop fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Zeitgueist posted:Exposing children to most gamers is acceptable grounds for removal via CPS, I'd say I agree with bringing in child protection for the crime of exposed children. Who wouldn't?
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Well I wouldn't threaten the cleavage if it wasn't being so god drat aggressive. It needs to chill out.
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circ dick soleil posted:Why does the aggressive cleavage need to be saved? Who is threatening it? It's a reference to the PAX rules which prohibit "aggressive display of cleavage or the navel" on booth representatives, which is basically a very awkwardly worded rule against booth babes. These rules have been there for years, but a few months ago somebody in GG got bored and decided to bring it up again.
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Brannock posted:Feminists who identify themselves with equity feminism include Jean Bethke Elshtain, Christina Hoff Sommers, Elizabeth Fox-Genovese, Noretta Koertge, Donna Laframboise, Mary Lefkowitz, Carrie Lukas, Wendy McElroy, Camille Paglia, Daphne Patai, Virginia Postrel, Alice Rossi, Nadine Strossen, Joan Kennedy Taylor, Cathy Young, and evolutionary psychologist Steven Pinker. Slanderer posted:This appears to be an unsourced and unverified statement on that wikipedia page (except for Pinker). Looking up a few of the names here gives me some libertarians and some people in unrelated fields---but most importantly, i can find no reference to "equity feminist" related to them. So, yeah, standing by my assertions that Sommers invented a new definition of feminism to apply to her dumb libertarian politics, which is not actually used by other feminists
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Someone else asked me this last time I posted here so i'll just answer it, I agree with the definition, but i generally myself disagreeing with about half the feminist things I come across in media. I generally hate activist and radicals, though. It's nice that you hate gg though you shouldn't hate activists, you've benefited enormously from their activism.
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NutritiousSnack posted:Case in point, TotalBisuit had a slam article mentioned against him and a lecture that had to be redacted and apologized for because he could prove damages. SeripothISCool88 isn't going to get the same treatment because them saying GamerGate as a whole eats infants doesn't matter. Are you referring to this blog opinion on Totalbiscuit? http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DavidGallant/20150125/234930/For_the_Sake_of_the_Industry_No_More_TotalBiscuit.php
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Slanderer posted:So, yeah, standing by my assertions that Sommers invented a new definition of feminism to apply to her dumb libertarian politics, which is not actually used by other feminists I see, thanks for the update. I didn't want to dig into that too deeply as I'm indifferent towards feminist factionalism.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Someone else asked me this last time I posted here so i'll just answer it, I agree with the definition, but i generally myself disagreeing with about half the feminist things I come across in media. I generally hate activist and radicals, though. you hate activists and radicals, but you hang out in a GG channel and actively research anti-feminist causes? i'm not sure if you understand that you come across as extremely biased and untrustworthy. i doubt you have sound judgement on this issue
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Unfunny Poster posted:Are you referring to this blog opinion on Totalbiscuit? No. He was mentoned off handily on an article on Kotaku or something and more importantly was mentioned during a game academics conference that had to issue a correction and apology on their youtube for mentioning him endorsing harassment. Some lamewad saying someone else is lame and dumb is and always will be legal.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:No, the gamergate irc. its at rizon and its #burgersandfries. Its been very slow for the past few weeks, but if yall really want to argue with some real genuine channer GGers you can go there, as yall seem to have alot of fun with this thread. Why would anyone need to go there when gg chatter afeelgoodpoop is here in this thread?
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Sharkie posted:It's nice that you hate gg though you shouldn't hate activists, you've benefited enormously from their activism. Yes, but hippies
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INH5 posted:It's a reference to the PAX rules which prohibit "aggressive display of cleavage or the navel" on booth representatives, which is basically a very awkwardly worded rule against booth babes. Oh, well 3D doesn't count.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:you hate activists and radicals, but you hang out in a GG channel and actively research anti-feminist causes? Okay, a clearer definition. I hate radicals that feel justified in hiding their intent and being devious, this doesn't bother me in my support of GG because it is ultimately a gamer cargo cult version that is disempowering those radicals out games journalism by attacking the journalist themselves.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Okay, a clearer definition. I hate radicals that feel justified in hiding their intent and being devious, this doesn't bother me in my support of GG because it is ultimately a gamer cargo cult version that is disempowering those radicals out games journalism by attacking the journalist themselves. this is a sort of interesting rationalization that allows you to believe that GG are not radical activists, but it just leads to more questions. why do you think that feminists and SJWs are actually hiding anything? what is the threshold of proof that you find acceptable to test this belief? from my perspective it seems like they've clearly stated that they think there are problems with sexism and other -isms in gaming, and want to point out those problems. where is the ulterior motive? it also seems obvious to me that the gamergaters are the more devious party, given that they claim they're concerned about journalism ethics when they harass people who are not journalists, but social critics. this would indicate that the true goal of gamergate is to silence unpopular critics
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NutritiousSnack posted:No. He was mentoned off handily on an article on Kotaku or something and more importantly was mentioned during a game academics conference that had to issue a correction and apology on their youtube for mentioning him endorsing harassment. Can you find said article? This is the only thing close to what you're talking about. http://kotaku.com/some-youtubers-might-be-breaking-the-law-1606292412
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Brannock posted:I see, thanks for the update. I didn't want to dig into that too deeply as I'm indifferent towards feminist factionalism. It seemed so out of place with what my earlier google queries returned that I figured something was up. The actual reference cited from Pinker ended up being weird---lots of "People think that feminists want to kill all men and burn the earth, but that's just the crazies! But my gal Christina Sommers knows a thing or two, and it turns out that all those women who don't identify as feminists but believe the same set of values are secretly Equity Feminists, they just don't realize it yet! Allow me to list famous ones who have yet to be enlightened about what they actually believe:..." So, yeah, that was weird.
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conservative anti gay dude getting caught blowing a dude = funny. moral scolds being outed as total hypocrites = funny. what is there to debate or discuss? send this poo poo somewhere else. pet island maybe.
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I am just curious what percentage of the gamer gate "community" are pedophiles and which ones simply view artistic nudes of children online.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Okay, a clearer definition. I hate radicals that feel justified in hiding their intent and being devious, this doesn't bother me in my support of GG because it is ultimately a gamer cargo cult version that is disempowering those radicals out games journalism by attacking the journalist themselves. So you don't hate feminists because of a crazy-rear end percieved conspiracy you picked up on a poo poo board somewhere.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Can you find said article? This is the only thing close to what you're talking about. Honestly I'll look but this poo poo is a year long now and I just laugh at this mess.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Okay, a clearer definition. I hate radicals that feel justified in hiding their intent and being devious, this doesn't bother me in my support of GG because it is ultimately a gamer cargo cult version that is disempowering those radicals out games journalism by attacking the journalist themselves. I suspect, based on what you've posted, it would be more accurate to say you support gg because you believe they're fighting the good fight against feminism. Despite their hiding their intent by claiming its actually about journalism ethics.
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Denim Dude posted:conservative anti gay dude getting caught blowing a dude = funny. I don't know, I think there's a lot of nuance to be debated here, such as moral culpability or grey areas. Don't you agree?
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Doomsday Jesus posted:I am just curious what percentage of the gamer gate "community" are pedophiles and which ones simply view artistic nudes of children online. Sarah Butts is one of the bigger anti GamerGate people and she had her harddrive seized by police for having lolicon on it and is a self admitted pedophile.
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Who was the hypocrite here?
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 03:43 |
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Zeitgeist a few minutes ago your avatar looked like this: but don't worry as I already brought you your old one back. There's no need to thank me.
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Brannock posted:I don't know, I think there's a lot of nuance to be debated here, such as moral culpability or grey areas. Don't you agree? jesus christ no, and also gently caress capital letters too.
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Huh, that was a pretty fast turnaround on av -> red text -> av.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Okay, a clearer definition. I hate radicals that feel justified in hiding their intent and being devious, this doesn't bother me in my support of GG because it is ultimately a gamer cargo cult version that is disempowering those radicals out games journalism by attacking the journalist themselves. Clear question: if you didn't think that the feminists involved were being deceitful, would you still be opposed to their views? If your answer is yes, have you considered the possibility that that view may colour your attitudes to the whole issue?
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Cliff Racer posted:Zeitgeist a few minutes ago your avatar looked like this: awesome
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Cliff Racer posted:Zeitgeist a few minutes ago your avatar looked like this: You think you're doing him a favor but actually you just made him waste five bucks.
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Zeitgueist posted:Exposing children to most gamers is acceptable grounds for removal via CPS, I'd say Please sir do not talk about exposing children, especially in the artistic sense because there's a large segment of perverts who believe that is ok.
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Denim Dude posted:what is there to debate or discuss? send this poo poo somewhere else. pet island maybe. IDK, it seems like there's plenty of good to be had here; plenty of hellthread dudes have shown up and been civilly argued with, a few aren't as hostile to feminist stuff anymore (or just aren't as likely to participate in tribalism), derails have been short and well-meaning, and sooner or later we might finally get a description of what Gamergate is about!
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Doomsday Jesus posted:Please sir do not talk about exposing children, especially in the artistic sense because there's a large segment of perverts who believe that is ok. LOL couldn't make the gf stuff stick, trying again?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:this is a sort of interesting rationalization that allows you to believe that GG are not radical activists, but it just leads to more questions. why do you think that feminists and SJWs are actually hiding anything? what is the threshold of proof that you find acceptable to test this belief? from my perspective it seems like they've clearly stated that they think there are problems with sexism and other -isms in gaming, and want to point out those problems. where is the ulterior motive? it also seems obvious to me that the gamergaters are the more devious party, given that they claim they're concerned about journalism ethics when they harass people who are not journalists, but social critics. this would indicate that the true goal of gamergate is to silence unpopular critics Atleast since LF was made leftist got really weird about spreading specific narratives about ongoing events. If you see nearly every single leftist outlet repeating not only specific narratives, but snappy catchphrases and an ultimate conclusive tone about things. It's very obvious some weird collusion is going on. either that or internet leftys really like repeating poo poo in mass in the same exact way everywhere. I guess It's important for me to bring up that I was somewhat radicalized in my youth over the incredibly ridiculous propaganda push to convince the US public to go to war with iraq. I had deep suspicions within the first month that the administration was pushing alot of bullshit. it became more and more obvious over time, all the way leading up to them revealing that spy that was in active duty because they or someone they knew kept calling the news to tell them their evidence was poo poo. When we actually pushed into doing it, the opinion polls came out showing most people believed the bullshit, and then bush getting elected in 2004. I legit wanted to blow up something bad. Thankfully I was a kid and didnt have any power but it made me lose complete faith in other peoples ability to smell bullshit, and made me feel like I have some extra special ability to pick up on obvious media manipulation. I have no faith in others ability to not be brainwashed and manipulated, so when I sense manipulative narratives being pushed I feel a strong disdain and fear that others will be legit manipulated into believing it.
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Let's continue to discuss pedophilia while ignoring the babydick loving elephants posting in the room.
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Zeitgueist posted:LOL couldn't make the gf stuff stick, trying again? What the gently caress are you on about? Swallow too many Aqua Dots?
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Disinterested posted:If your answer is yes, have you considered the possibility that that view may colour your attitudes to the whole issue? Saying yes blankly is just as dumb though, it depends on their argument. Like I'd totally say the Hitman commercials widely hated by the press was sexist as hell and they made good arguments towards this but nearly every criticism against The Witcher 3 seems just stupid and frankly culturally imperialist as hell and I'm not GamerGate or whatever.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Atleast since LF was made leftist got really weird about spreading specific narratives about ongoing events. If you see nearly every single leftist outlet repeating not only specific narratives, but snappy catchphrases and an ultimate conclusive tone about things. It's very obvious some weird collusion is going on. either that or internet leftys really like repeating poo poo in mass in the same exact way everywhere. I guess It's important for me to bring up that I was somewhat radicalized in my youth over the incredibly ridiculous propaganda push to convince the US public to go to war with iraq. I had deep suspicions within the first month that the administration was pushing alot of bullshit. it became more and more obvious over time, all the way leading up to them revealing that spy that was in active duty because they or someone they knew kept calling the news to tell them their evidence was poo poo. When we actually pushed into doing it, the opinion polls came out showing most people believed the bullshit, and then bush getting elected in 2004. I legit wanted to blow up something bad. Thankfully I was a kid and didnt have any power but it made me lose complete faith in other peoples ability to smell bullshit, and made me feel like I have some extra special ability to pick up on obvious media manipulation. I have no faith in others ability to not be brainwashed and manipulated, so when I sense manipulative narratives being pushed I feel a strong disdain and fear that others will be legit manipulated into believing it. why do you believe you have a hightened ability to see through manipulation and propaganda? where did you acquire this skill? are you naturally just more intelligent and perceptive than the vast majority of humanity?
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