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thatguy posted:True Detective: Because on any other show it's just reusing the same extras car twice, but here it's a worldwide sex conspiracy for 8 episodes until everybody forgets about it because they were just watching reruns of Law & Order & Turner & Hooch & Tango & Cash You must hate being yourself.
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Thought Ray's end was fitting, and I kinda appreciate how the ep's scenes/conversations about his life were all so literal. "If you take my kid, I'll have nothing left" Kid gets taken, he dies "Get away from your poo poo life and come to my idyllic mountain home. Look there's even some money on the table for gas!" Thinks he already has the "world he deserves," wearily marches towards seedy crime scene and death
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iamsosmrt posted:For some reason Taylor Kitsch's face in the show is unsettling to me. I can't quite put my finger on why though. My wife mentioned his right eye is more closed than the other (sort of like a lazy eye or something), and now I can't un-see it.
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Jun 30, 2015 16:12
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iamsosmrt posted:For some reason Taylor Kitsch's face in the show is unsettling to me. I can't quite put my finger on why though. It's because you don't want to admit you're gay
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BlindSite posted:Its not outside the realm of possibility the motorbike friday night lights is homophobic and needs viagra because of ptsd. Stop being spergs about him being a secret gay. While I agree that figuring he was gay in the first episode seemed to be a bit of a reach, the homophobic comment that was specifically called out by Dan from Deadwood along with the scene of him watching the male prostitute get out of the car from his hotel room seems to be pointing at him hiding something. kiimo posted:Is that a reference to Woodrugh's mom's smeared lipstick, I don't think that was smeared lipstick, it sure looked like a herpe to me.
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Jun 30, 2015 16:28
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AFewBricksShy posted:While I agree that figuring he was gay in the first episode seemed to be a bit of a reach, the homophobic comment that was specifically called out by Dan from Deadwood along with the scene of him watching the male prostitute get out of the car from his hotel room seems to be pointing at him hiding something. Was that the same scene where he is smoking and eyeballs the two guys with matching angle wing outfits looking pretty fabulous? superh posted:Rewatching ep 2. Wanted to express my love for: I noticed that as well and was about to mention it at the time to the person I was watching it with and then thought some things are better left unsaid. I couldn't think of a good way to say "oh wow, that's a giant robot dick and they were just talking about robot dicks" 
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Jun 30, 2015 16:54
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AFewBricksShy posted:While I agree that figuring he was gay in the first episode seemed to be a bit of a reach How was it a reach? The guy was visibly disgusted at the prospect of having sex with his girlfriend. It was obviously much more than ED. Also rewatch the scene and pay attention to how tense and unnerving it is, look at Woodrugh's body language. It's a rape scene.
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HOT SQUATS posted:It's a rape scene. Dude. He's doing it to himself. It's more like a cutting scene.
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HOT SQUATS posted:How was it a reach? The guy was visibly disgusted at the prospect of having sex with his girlfriend. It was obviously much more than ED. Also rewatch the scene and pay attention to how tense and unnerving it is, look at Woodrugh's body language. It's a rape scene. He wasn't visibly disgusted in that scene unless his one single expression throughout every scene is visible disgust
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Jun 30, 2015 17:29
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SaviourX posted:Like, don't ever prove me wrong IV, I only dip in here once or twice a year, and it is incredible how fast you can poo poo a thing up. There's truth in here but I desire unironically for more 'true detective' jokes. edit: thatguy posted:True Detective: Because watching a no-talent actor's frog-eyed face for a 3 minute monologue standing up isn't bad enough, we'll do it in a loving bed to squash his face and make that uncanny valley android look as bad as possible instead thatguy posted:True Detective: Because on any other show it's just reusing the same extras car twice, but here it's a worldwide sex conspiracy for 8 episodes until everybody forgets about it because they were just watching reruns of Law & Order & Turner & Hooch & Tango & Cash But I desire less of this. kiimo fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Jun 30, 2015 19:32
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thatguy posted:He wasn't visibly disgusted in that scene unless his one single expression throughout every scene is visible disgust It's the James Hurley effect (replace disgust with vacant uncomprehending confusion).
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Jun 30, 2015 20:05
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One thing this season is lacking compared to the first is humor. It's like all the characters are cynical and wounded like Rust was but there's no "grab a beer after work and tell fart jokes" Marty to balance it out. I really liked the first two episodes and I also like that they aren't doing a re-tread of season 1. My wife actually freaked out when the raven mask guy came out of the shadows in episode 2. One of the freakiest moments I've seen on TV in a long time.
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Unzip and Attack posted:One thing this season is lacking compared to the first is humor. It's like all the characters are cynical and wounded like Rust was but there's no "grab a beer after work and tell fart jokes" Marty to balance it out. I really liked the first two episodes and I also like that they aren't doing a re-tread of season 1. Agreed on all counts. Except I knew when he's all like "cool found the scene of the crime" *holsters gun* there was gonna be trouble. Just didn't figure how much. That was a brutal scene.
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Jun 30, 2015 20:19
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I rewatched last night, what was weird about the Velcoro getting shot scene is that when bird man is walking up to him and aims his shotgun at Velcoro's chest Velcoro just kind of lays there with both hands at his side like "eh I'll just let this guy walk up and shoot me in the chest with out any resistance at all". It would seem like if it was realistic he would be grabbing at the barrel etc.
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Jun 30, 2015 20:32
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:I rewatched last night, what was weird about the Velcoro getting shot scene is that when bird man is walking up to him and aims his shotgun at Velcoro's chest Velcoro just kind of lays there with both hands at his side like "eh I'll just let this guy walk up and shoot me in the chest with out any resistance at all". On my rewatch I tried to go as frame by frame as I could through the shooting, and I think that the speculation about it being non-lethal beanbags or something might have some merit. There's definitely no blood shown, just his shirt and coat flapping. If he'd just been point-blank shot with a beanbag the wind would've been knocked out of him. Regardless of how lethal or non-lethal the bullets were, that second shot had to have done some damage.
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Jun 30, 2015 20:46
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He was in shock from the first shot and/or probably knew this was it. That's not that unrealistic, and whining about realism with that kinda poo poo is stupid
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solovyov posted:Nope. Narrow it down. I don't know what you're saying, but I think it's unfair to call the creator's of the show "ignorant" based on what we've seen so far, and I think it's outright wrong to say that the highway stop was supposed to "telegraph" that he was gay, considering the show kept the outcome ambiguous. I think the highway stop was there to show uneasy, toxic, commodified power-for-sex and to intrigue the viewer. Given that his use of viagra is perfectly reasonable, and given how the highway scene only suggests homosexuality in retrospect, if at all, I don't understand your personal attack on the show runners. But if you feel differently that's okay, it's a very strange, divisive show after all. Cheers.
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Pron on VHS posted:He was in shock from the first shot and/or probably knew this was it. That's not that unrealistic, and whining about realism with that kinda poo poo is stupid Not whining, just pointing it out for speculative purposes: i.e. was Velcoro in on it? Nothing would lead me to believe that except him just laying there.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:11
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Not whining, just pointing it out for speculative purposes: i.e. was Velcoro in on it? Nothing would lead me to believe that except him just laying there. That or being shot by a shotgun round of any type is traumatic as gently caress.
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Pron on VHS posted:He was in shock from the first shot and/or probably knew this was it. That's not that unrealistic, and whining about realism with that kinda poo poo is stupid Didn't Velcoro just get done telling Frank he was thinking about giving up and just killing himself, and Frank chided him about talking like that. I took it as him just giving up.
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One would think that fight or flight would kick in and that one wouldn't have the chance to think to themselves "oh, why bother? I wanted to kill myself anyway" /lays there. I have no real opinion, just shooting the poo poo until the next one airs.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:22
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:One would think that fight or flight would kick in and that one wouldn't have the chance to think to themselves "oh, why bother? I wanted to kill myself anyway" /lays there. True story, I had a shotgun shoved into the side of my head during a messed up drug deal and even though it lasted only a few seconds it sure as hell gave me a ton of time to think about a ton of things. I'm sure getting shot would slow time down enough to think about all sorts of things before you died.
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I don't know poo poo about guns but I was watching it a second time, this time with a buddy of mine who is a DEA special agent, former FBI, former Air Force special forces. He immediately said "non-lethal" based on what the shotgun blast did to him. If it was realistically portrayed it drat near would have cut his body in half. It also makes sense because this isn't Game of Thrones and I don't think you kill off your best character in the second episode. Torturing him and having him change as a character because of that is way more interesting from a writing standpoint. I think whatever ordeal he's about to go through is going to laser-focus him into solving this case and getting to the bottom of it and the mayor can gently caress himself and the gangster that sent him there can gently caress himself. At least that's what I hope will happen because I want this character to be suddenly driven with purpose.
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:One would think that fight or flight would kick in and that one wouldn't have the chance to think to themselves "oh, why bother? I wanted to kill myself anyway" /lays there. Well, it wasn't what I wanted him to do (just lay there), or what I'd thought he'd do, that's for sure.
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kiimo posted:I don't know poo poo about guns but I was watching it a second time, this time with a buddy of mine who is a DEA special agent, former FBI, former Air Force special forces. He immediately said "non-lethal" based on what the shotgun blast did to him. If it was realistically portrayed it drat near would have cut his body in half. Absent body armor. Level 3A stuff will stop 00 and even slugs from pretty close ranges. http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-16-level-iiia-armor/ And if he's not wearing armor, that second shot would have at least critically injured him no matter what the load was, even the shot cup from a load of rock salt would have penetrated at that range. A beanbag would have wound up inside his belly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhQCMQ4K3PY&t=154s
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kiimo posted:I don't know poo poo about guns but I was watching it a second time, this time with a buddy of mine who is a DEA special agent, former FBI, former Air Force special forces. He immediately said "non-lethal" based on what the shotgun blast did to him. If it was realistically portrayed it drat near would have cut his body in half.
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Personally, I don't think that the writers making us feel like the character we're rooting for is in danger, only to reveal later that the shooter had ulterior motives and the danger wasn't what we were led to believe, is necessarily bad storytelling, even if someone with outside technical knowledge of the mechanics can determine that Velcoro likely isn't dead (This thought occurred to me immediately due to the lack of gore and I know nothing about guns). Velcoro is most certainly in a difficult position and appears powerless over his own fate at the moment. Whatever happens next will be pure characterization for the Birdman. If we learn a little bit more about the his motives/go deeper down the rabbithole as a result of this experience, I will continue to tune in. But if the Pizza Man fumbles it... Moltke fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Hi I'm bad at watching tv. Remind me why/when all 3 cops were told to mess up the investigation? I don't remember that but everyone likes to mumble on this show and I didn't think to put subtitles on.
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Raven dude just shot the ground next to his head as a warning and left.frenchnewwave posted:Hi I'm bad at watching tv. Remind me why/when all 3 cops were told to mess up the investigation? I don't remember that but everyone likes to mumble on this show and I didn't think to put subtitles on. They weren't explicitly told but one of them is in bed with criminals and he tells the lady-cop that if the state really wanted this solved then they would've sent in a whole taskforce instead of one or two people.
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voted blanks/squibs and elaborate death-faking for whoever's on the other side of that camera
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kiimo posted:I don't know poo poo about guns but I was watching it a second time, this time with a buddy of mine who is a DEA special agent, former FBI, former Air Force special forces. He immediately said "non-lethal" based on what the shotgun blast did to him. If it was realistically portrayed it drat near would have cut his body in half. They're gonna poo poo in his shoes and shave his 'stache. 
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I have to find out who killed Casper. Who killed him. I will find him.
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Periodiko posted:I don't know what you're saying, but I think it's unfair to call the creator's of the show "ignorant" based on what we've seen so far, and I think it's outright wrong to say that the highway stop was supposed to "telegraph" that he was gay, considering the show kept the outcome ambiguous. I think the highway stop was there to show uneasy, toxic, commodified power-for-sex and to intrigue the viewer. Given that his use of viagra is perfectly reasonable, and given how the highway scene only suggests homosexuality in retrospect, if at all, I don't understand your personal attack on the show runners. But if you feel differently that's okay, it's a very strange, divisive show after all. Cheers. The "ignorant" comment was making fun of people who were laughing at the guy who was operating from the assumption that the show runners are NOT ignorant. I didn't think the highway stop telegraphed "this guy is gay" either, but a bunch of other people did, with ignorant reasoning that you're somewhat buying into here. Him turning down the blow job should not, under any reasonably aware standard, count as evidence he's gay. You seem to understand that and why it is (it would've been an abuse of power to accept that bj). I said "narrow it down" on the viagra issue because I wasn't arguing that it's never reasonable to incorporate viagra for sexual performance, just that it was dumb to incorporate it in this scene if the intent is to clearly communicate - this dude needs extra help getting his dick hard because he's not attracted to this beautiful woman. Particularly as he stands there regarding his war wounds, suggesting PTSD as the most reasonable explanation. I don't think I'm trying to personally attack the show runners, there's just some unavoidable implications when pointing out "great job, guys, people working from uninformed and silly presumptions were the first people to figure out this character is gay!" Like, it's probably not a coincidence that those people saw turning down the bj/using viagra as signs of Gay, the show runners saw it that way too.
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frenchnewwave posted:Hi I'm bad at watching tv. Remind me why/when all 3 cops were told to mess up the investigation? I don't remember that but everyone likes to mumble on this show and I didn't think to put subtitles on. Velcoro's higher ups (the mayor etc.) told him they didn't want any surprises when he asked if they wanted him to solve the case. Antigone's higher ups told her they knew Velcro was crooked but that she should try to find a way to get intelligence from him to use in the case the state is building against the city of Vinci. CHiPs guy was told something similar from the same higher ups, more like "use this opportunity to filter info". I think that's kind of right.
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the girl is the only true detective on the case right, the others are just highway patrol and city cop
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Abu Dave posted:the girl is the only true detective on the case right, the others are just highway patrol and city cop Velcoro is a detective in Vinci. I assume he ended up with that gig via corrupt connections. He used to be a city cop then he killed the rapist and somehow got a detective gig in Vinci.
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I liked that Vinci's residential district is the houses opposite the police station. Velcro literally cross the street to work apparently.
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solovyov posted:The "ignorant" comment was making fun of people who were laughing at the guy who was operating from the assumption that the show runners are NOT ignorant. I didn't think the highway stop telegraphed "this guy is gay" either, but a bunch of other people did, with ignorant reasoning that you're somewhat buying into here. Him turning down the blow job should not, under any reasonably aware standard, count as evidence he's gay. You seem to understand that and why it is (it would've been an abuse of power to accept that bj). I said "narrow it down" on the viagra issue because I wasn't arguing that it's never reasonable to incorporate viagra for sexual performance, just that it was dumb to incorporate it in this scene if the intent is to clearly communicate - this dude needs extra help getting his dick hard because he's not attracted to this beautiful woman. Particularly as he stands there regarding his war wounds, suggesting PTSD as the most reasonable explanation.
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Meowbot posted:what a great time to be a tv and be alive
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