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natetimm posted:Unironically quoting Kotaku in a way that directly contradicts the study itself. It's almost entirely a repetition of the creators of the study's words? Why would that be up for questioning outside of seething rage at the website? if Russia Times reported on gay marriage in america, would gay marriage cease to exist?
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Meme Emulator posted:Can we please talk about cids huge tits instead.  Goodness no. That would be objectifying. The character they should have made of course, would have been a hideously deformed chud of a woman of color in a properly starched turtleneck. This way you would be able to be compelled by the sheer weight of her character, rather than her looks. To do this of course, you would need to make her the new main character. But even that would not fix the issue that these so-called "Final Fantasy" games are centered around violence instead of solving conflict through careful study and proper recital of gender theory to turn your foes into proper thinking allies.
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I have to be honest, I thought I knew what gamergate was about before I started reading this thread, but a lot of the back and forth has really opened up my eyes. Came in thinking it was a bunch of misogynist bullshit, but stuff like this and more importantly this made me realize that there's some serious issues at stake.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:00
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Genuine question: is a Non-disclosure Agreement a form of censorship (using the broader definition)?
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Dapper Dan posted:Clearly the most pressing issue of our times. Snood posted:I feel harassed and insulted by this post, please delete forthwith. In the future please consult with me before posting something that I might read to determine to what scale I will be offended so you can be given an opportunity to revise your post. As we see here, Gaters cannot comprehend the concept that the opposition to depicting women as cheesecake sex objects is not rooted in sexual puritianism, mostly because they don't want to, but also because if they were capable of comprehending basic concepts with sufficient repetition they wouldn't be Gaters. Or, to paraphrase Upton Sinclair: "it is difficult to make a man understand something, when the last of his self-esteem about masturbating to pretend cartoon asses depends on his not understanding it." You'll notice also that they can't actually forward the argument they are making in anything other than the sarcastic sniveling format so common amongst idiots terrified to make an actual argument, because to even speak it aloud is to demonstrate how laughable it is. Rather than ceaselessly get bogged down in attempting to explain a bicycle to a seagull, a better and equally accurate argument is to point out that their strong weepy feels about and attachment to polygon titties in blinko toys is a pathological state resulting from a lack of emotional development, and not anything based in any kind of rational conception of reality. Reassure them that there is already more precious cartoon pornography in existence than any person could consume in a lifetime and still more being churned out every second; and that, even if SJWs succeed in their master plan to make not every single woman in videogames dress like a groupie desperate to blow Kid Rock, the Gaters would still never lack anything to jack their gross beagle dicks to. Remind them that although it appears like the Enemy Tribe is coming to take their women, this is in fact just their primate instincts flaring up. Their imaginary women are at no risk.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:07
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Genuine question: is a Non-disclosure Agreement a form of censorship (using the broader definition)? No more so than agreeing to follow the Terms of Service of a website you are leaving comments on.
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Tezzor posted:You'll notice also that they can't actually forward the argument they are making in anything other than the sarcastic sniveling format so common amongst idiots terrified to make an actual argument, because to even speak it aloud is to demonstrate how laughable it is. i get what you're saying but 'supercilious faux-academicese' isn't that much better
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Jun 30, 2015 21:11
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Clipperton posted:i get what you're saying but 'supercilious faux-academicese' isn't that much better It's difficult to not be "supercilious" when discussing gamergaters, who in my great degree of experience are universally whining and vastly unintelligent scum.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:14
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Tezzor posted:It's difficult to not be "supercilious" when discussing gamergaters, who in my great degree of experience are universally whining and vastly unintelligent scum. try harder then because you look like a tool
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Jun 30, 2015 21:17
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Genuine question: is a Non-disclosure Agreement a form of censorship (using the broader definition)? The broadest dictionary definition and not a philosophical one? Yeah.
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Clipperton posted:try harder then because you look like a tool large word scary 
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Jun 30, 2015 21:21
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For real though, the character design for the new Cid is terrible. It's like a female Tidus. Ugh.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:23
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Wheres the pictures of the Steampunk wedding?
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Jun 30, 2015 21:25
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Meme Emulator posted:Wheres the pictures of the Steampunk wedding? I haven't heard of a steampunk wedding regarding gg/agg, just that Anthony Burch had someone read quotes from Half Life Raising the Bar at his wedding
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The Droid posted:I haven't heard of a steampunk wedding regarding gg/agg, just that Anthony Burch had someone read quotes from Half Life Raising the Bar at his wedding Oh, Tezzor is apparently Goatstein. Since he started posting again I thought Id ask.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:29
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The Droid posted:I haven't heard of a steampunk wedding regarding gg/agg, just that Anthony Burch had someone read quotes from Half Life Raising the Bar at his wedding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XshS_6evfp4 its true.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:29
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Anthony Burches wedding isnt even the most embarassing thing about him
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Jun 30, 2015 21:30
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Meme Emulator posted:Oh, Tezzor is apparently Goatstein lol
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For real though, I find it very liberating to jack off to pixellated asses
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Jun 30, 2015 21:31
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Meme Emulator posted:Anthony Burches wedding isnt even the most embarassing thing about him I am pretty sure destroying his own marriage and seeing it all go to poo poo on twitter is.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:32
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Meme Emulator posted:Anthony Burches wedding isnt even the most embarassing thing about him one of the great thing about Hellthread That Was were the dozen dudes spamming gifs of hot anime girls, who later felt as though they were in a position to mock Anthony Burch for being a gross loser
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Jun 30, 2015 21:32
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Tezzor posted:one of the great thing about Hellthread That Was were the dozen dudes spamming gifs of hot anime girls, who later felt as though they were in a position to mock Anthony Burch for being a gross loser Im quite aware Im a gross loser, Im just self loathing as well which is why I enjoy stories about Burch's open relationship.
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Jun 30, 2015 21:35
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Meme Emulator posted:For real though, I find it very liberating to jack off to pixellated asses My good man, have you had the good fortune to discover this new and exciting phenomenon known as "pornography?" I hear tell it's rather prolific and effective in relieving the stresses of this here internet. I mean really, what is this 1988, when finding porn actually took some kind of effort if you were under 18 so you were forced by circumstance to actually use your imagination for such things?
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Jun 30, 2015 21:37
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Talmonis posted:My good man, have you had the good fortune to discover this new and exciting phenomenon known as "pornography?" I hear tell it's rather prolific and effective in relieving the stresses of this here internet. Watch out. Some of those pixel characters might be sexy. (Ya'll American posters are a bunch of prudes, like for real, yo.)
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Jun 30, 2015 21:40
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Meme Emulator posted:Oh, Tezzor is apparently Goatstein. Since he started posting again I thought Id ask. Why speculate what previous terrible poster he is when he still is one?
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NutritiousSnack posted:Why speculate what previous terrible poster he is when he still is one? I liked Goatstien. I dont remember much about him and I doubt hed remember me, but I remember posting amicably with him.
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Tezzor posted:large word scary one thing about gamergaters, they at least know when theyre being obnoxious
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Tezzor posted:As we see here, Gaters cannot comprehend the concept that the opposition to depicting women as cheesecake sex objects is not rooted in sexual puritianism, mostly because they don't want to, but also because if they were capable of comprehending basic concepts with sufficient repetition they wouldn't be Gaters. Or, to paraphrase Upton Sinclair: "it is difficult to make a man understand something, when the last of his self-esteem about masturbating to pretend cartoon asses depends on his not understanding it." You'll notice also that they can't actually forward the argument they are making in anything other than the sarcastic sniveling format so common amongst idiots terrified to make an actual argument, because to even speak it aloud is to demonstrate how laughable it is. Talmonis posted:
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ChazTurbo posted:Watch out. Some of those pixel characters might be sexy. (Ya'll American posters are a bunch of prudes, like for real, yo.) "Geeze, you prudish Americans, don't you know that women are meant to titillate and nothing else? Get with the times!"
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 BTW, none of these pixels are "sexy". This is bullshit. (I'm posting this so often because IMO it's a completely self-contained argument.)
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Cingulate posted:"cannot comprehend" may be your explanation, but I also think talking about their "gross beagle dicks" isn't building them any bridges to liberal land either. After about a year of watching them flop around like nazi rodeo clowns I no longer believe that convincing them is possible, necessary or desirable.
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Slanderer posted:So, she is being forced by McIntosh to put her face on the twitter account for the project that she is the spokeswoman for? Given how much she seems to despise social media (for understandable reasons) there is a very good chance he does so without knowledge or approval. Like far from an actual big deal, but yeah.
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Who What Now posted:"Geeze, you prudish Americans, don't you know that women are meant to titillate and nothing else? Get with the times!" "If a woman displays sexuality that means it's all she's good for"
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Tezzor posted:After about a year of watching them flop around like nazi rodeo clowns I no longer believe that convincing them is possible, necessary or desirable. Disagree. There's been a few gamergate tag-alongs who have already taken a far softer stance since they were introduced to the world of tedious fact-based longassposts.
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don't criticize this woman's clothing unless you are some kind of puritan opposed to women's bodies. sistah's doin it for herself!! *sistah is a 100% fictional character deliberately designed and marketed to appeal to juvenile male sexuality in a corporate studio atmosphere assuredly upwards of 90% male*
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Slanderer posted:In the hallowed halls of 8chan, warrior-academics are frantically drawing red lines around images of tweets in mspaint in their quest to answer that very question Insert a dozen CBA or Slanderer posts about 4chan posts and IRC shots here.
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Tezzor posted:don't criticize this woman's clothing unless you are some kind of puritan opposed to women's bodies. sistah's doin it for herself!! *sistah is a 100% fictional character deliberately designed and marketed to appeal to juvenile male sexuality in a corporate studio atmosphere assuredly upwards of 90% male* Same, when a man sees a women displaying, ugh sexuality, it overrides other character traits. We have know admitting sexuality or display it without shame might give women or men a non warped perception of but pride, self esteem, and sensuality are things no real woman feels.
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gamergater of average rationality and intelligence, 700 net upvoters posted:Do you motherfuckers understand now? DO YOU? Let me spell it out one more time for the densest among you.
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Who What Now posted:"Geeze, you prudish Americans, don't you know that women are meant to titillate and nothing else? Get with the times!" Liking sexy women obviously means they're objects. Hyperbole is fun. What do you think about Japanese games aimed at women where the dudes are all hunks or when ladies play/watch/read stuff for sexy men?
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NutritiousSnack posted:Same, when a man sees a women displaying, ugh sexuality, it overrides other character traits. We have know admitting sexuality or display it without shame might give women or men a non warped perception of but pride, self esteem, and sensuality are things no real woman feels. Sincere question: Do you think there is some combination of words in the library of babel that might make me believe for a moment that you are motivated here by concern for women instead of people saying mean words about the silly corporate fuckandroid you can't even touch
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