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The Vosgian Beast posted:He seems nice in a Into The Woods "You're not good, you're not bad, you're just nice" way. No really, he's qualitatively nicer in person than his writing. And this was as Yvain LessWrong, who was very nice as a LW writer (we had a suitable resolution of a pitched argument we'd been having on LW). Though looking back, his use of pickup artists as a go-to argument trope on LW posts was a bit of a worry. The Vosgian Beast posted:http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/23/links-1114-i-link-therefore-i-am/ Here it is. Scott gets angry at people for making negative comments about a guy who jumped on the gamergate bandwagon to promote his political goals. Hah. Commenter calls him out for talking obvious bollocks, is inexplicably not refuted 'cos I think he's nailed Scott's essential problem: he literally doesn't comprehend the arguments of people opposing him, so constructs truly weird strawman versions of them that he then proudly slays. I recall him doing this to Arthur Chu and Laurie Penny (who I'm sure was appropriately appreciative of the Neoreactionary Dating Agency bit in the last three paragraphs of this epic bilge). divabot has a new favorite as of 22:29 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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divabot posted:Hah. Commenter calls him out for talking obvious bollocks, is inexplicably not refuted 'cos I think he's nailed Scott's essential problem: he literally doesn't comprehend the arguments of people opposing him, so constructs truly weird strawman versions of them that he then proudly slays. I recall him doing this to Arthur Chu and Laurie Penny (who I'm sure was appropriately appreciative of the Neoreactionary Dating Agency bit in the last three paragraphs of this epic bilge). I've noticed that when he wants to draw an equivalency between NRx and anyone left of center, he'll use as his example of NRx thinking some frequent blog commenter or another, and for his examples of the excesses of social justice warriors he uses... anonymous commenters on news articles that he's read.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I've noticed that when he wants to draw an equivalency between NRx and anyone left of center, he'll use as his example of NRx thinking some frequent blog commenter or another, and for his examples of the excesses of social justice warriors he uses... anonymous commenters on news articles that he's read. As the guy who wrote a really good article on the Typical Mind Fallacy (which, astoundingly, is a LessWrong term that is actually the proper term for the thing in question and not a made-up neologism), he suffers a galloping case of it: an assumption that he and his friends are normality embodied and all you other people are weird. c.f. this classic, in which he is actually surprised that spending all his time hanging around viciously reactionary shitlords as friends, taking about their ideas, encouraging their comments, putting them in his blogroll, etc. has led to him moving towards treating their ideas as reasonable notions to hold. I wonder how long his Anti-Reactionary FAQ will stay up. To CHANGE TOPICS for a moment, Entryism in the Manosphere is a piece of comedy plutonium from last year. The central premise is concern that men who are huge assholes but show actual competence in society will show up and steal their great PUA ideas. divabot has a new favorite as of 23:51 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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divabot posted:As the guy who wrote a really good article on the Typical Mind Fallacy (which, astoundingly, is a LessWrong term that is actually the proper term for the thing in question and not a made-up neologism), he suffers a galloping case of it: an assumption that he and his friends are normality embodied and all you other people are weird. c.f. this classic, in which he is actually surprised that spending all his time hanging around viciously reactionary shitlords as friends, taking about their ideas, encouraging their comments, putting them in his blogroll, etc. has led to him moving towards treating their ideas as reasonable notions to hold. I wonder how long his Anti-Reactionary FAQ will stay up. I mean, this is what things look like in his mind:  God knows how it looks like now. He's literally one of a few people who takes Nydwracu's pseudo-intellectual bullshit seriously, for example. His recent "Fearful Symmetry" blogpost is especially bad.
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InediblePenguin posted:Because to be fair, they don't ALL look like whale carcasses, but there's definitely a unifying feature going on here You can look like Elliott Rodger did, have the money Elliott Rodger did, and drive the car Elliott Rodger did, and still not get laid because people can tell pretty quick when you've got a completely repugnant personality.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Sooner or later he's going to end up saying something really hideous about Charleston or Ferguson. He's all but admitted that he thinks that NRx has good points about Mike Brown and he thinks the right-wing narrative might be true. Before he used to care at least a bit about racist police brutality, but nowadays he seems to go to NRx first to form his opinions on anything.
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Merdifex posted:I mean, this is what things look like in his mind: This map bugs me every time I see it. Slacktivist is a major force in the Christian blogosphere but isn't mentioned anywhere (probably because it's super liberal and more social justice-y than most of the listed social justice blogs). Neither is Pharyngula nor its associated network, FreethoughtBlogs, despite being the premier atheist blog for over a decade. (Though like Slacktivist, it's adamantly liberal and social justice-y and therefore throws off the chart's pigeonholes.) And no Zero Hedge? They couldn't be bothered to list the most popular "alternative" economics blog in the world? What's a crackpot have to do to get the attention of other crackpots these days?
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Nckdictator posted:What's wrong with Popehat? Last/only time I heard of them was when they were attacking some scumbag who was spreading "revenge porn" around? Popehat is a group blog, and the worst of the lot is Clark. He, as was established earlier, really loves Moldbug.
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Nckdictator posted:What's wrong with Popehat? Last/only time I heard of them was when they were attacking some scumbag who was spreading "revenge porn" around? The original flavor Popehat, Ken White, is perfectly fine. His co-blogger Clark (aka Clarkhat), on the other hand, is a full-blown anarcho-capitalist (and also techno-utopian, crypto-anti-Semite, and global warming denier, because they were having a sale at the crackpot shop and Clark figured he'd stock up). Like all craven dipshits, Clark is infuriatingly dependent on Schrödinger's Troll (are his lovely opinions real or just trolling? Is he serious or just joking? Whichever is most advantageous at the moment!). My best guess is that he exists to make Ken look like a loving kind-hearted saint. My favorite post from Clarkhat so far: this post, where he is shocked—shocked!—that Vox Day (a shallow, petty, unprincipled man who thinks very highly of his cruel morals), would attack Ken for talking about his depression. So I guess we can add "extremely poor judge of character" to the list.
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Merdifex posted:I mean, this is what things look like in his mind: Okay, I laughed at "whaaaales". It's just such a out of left-field  thing in a mire of unintelligible bullshit.
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All of this, with their myriad graphs and spreadsheets and goofy names, is so miopic and insular. It's so weird to see a group that is at best a fringe of a fringe with such inflated self-importance and so little self-awareness. No, not weird, hilarious. Like... does anyone who doesn't write one of these blogs give a poo poo about these blogs? Am I out of touch here?
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Merdifex posted:God knows how it looks like now. He's literally one of a few people who takes Nydwracu's pseudo-intellectual bullshit seriously, for example. His recent "Fearful Symmetry" blogpost is especially bad. 6,442 words to say "NO U". The Vosgian Beast posted:Sooner or later he's going to end up saying something really hideous about Charleston or Ferguson. He carefully traces the edges here http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/ You've got me looking again. STOP. STOP.
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The fact that there's a guy who calls himself anarcho-papist will never not be funny to me. I remember a little while ago he posted a picture of his keyboard, and it turned out to be the most disgusting thing ever.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The fact that there's a guy who calls himself anarcho-papist will never not be funny to me. Until this thread I actually thought Anarcho-Papist and ClarkHat were the same person. I figured there couldn't possibly be two neoreactionary Catholics.
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DStecks posted:You can look like Elliott Rodger did, have the money Elliott Rodger did, and drive the car Elliott Rodger did, and still not get laid because people can tell pretty quick when you've got a completely repugnant personality. These people want to engineer a situation like the Cabin in the Woods episode of Robot chicken where women have no choice except to have sex with them. Or die. I'm guessing that most women with even a shred of self-respect would still seriously hesitate for a moment before going through with it, especially if they all have the "latent skinhead" look going on.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The fact that there's a guy who calls himself anarcho-papist will never not be funny to me. Curvature of Earth posted:Until this thread I actually thought Anarcho-Papist and ClarkHat were the same person. I figured there couldn't possibly be two neoreactionary Catholics. I'm guessing that he is not a Dorothy Day fan despite that name.
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Klaus88 posted:These people want to engineer a situation like the Cabin in the Woods episode of Robot chicken where women have no choice except to have sex with them. Or die. I'm guessing that most women with even a shred of self-respect would still seriously hesitate for a moment before going through with it, especially if they all have the "latent skinhead" look going on. The bald supervillain one had a girlfriend who he drove away because he punched her during a movie. That is his origin story.
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Interesting Scott Alexander quote here:Scott Alexander posted:Moldbug’s approach to talking about race seems to me like it gets him roughly as bad a reputation as Herrnstein and Murray (in the circles that know who each is, respectively), while letting him be far less clear than H&M are. Herrnstein and Murray are the authors of The Bell Curve, for posterity.
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Merdifex posted:Interesting Scott Alexander quote here: That's actually a quote by Nostalgebraist, it just looks like it's Scott because of the formatting. The debate between Nostalgebraist and Lambdaphagy is fun, because the latter is either genuinely unaware of how fascist and weird they are, or being insanely disingenuous
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The Vosgian Beast posted:That's actually a quote by Nostalgebraist, it just looks like it's Scott because of the formatting. Ah, it also sounded more like what Scott would say but since it's Nostalgebraist, the context is different. Scott has defended much racism by claiming that it's people assuming the racist thing to be racist or reading racism into it vs. the racist thing actually being racist. Many rationalists have. And that's pretty much Lambdaphagy's thing, look at the racist posts he's recently made. It's mostly just the lazy bullshit of saying outright racist poo poo or strongly implying a racist conclusion, a la Moldbug, then playing coy after the fact. Of course, all of it being based on bullshit analysis. Merdifex has a new favorite as of 13:55 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Sestze posted:As Col. Santiago from Alpha Centauri would put it:
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coyo7e posted:I have literally had a hardcore self-diagnosed aspergers conservative/libertarian/etc brag to me about how he was the captain of a yacht and a crew of dozens of men when he was in high school. Right now he's working at Gamestop and has a wife who's having her fourth or fifth miscarriage (she may or may not be dying her hair to match the number of M-C's) because, well, being a cashier at gamestop is apparently the epitome of solid family-starting time when you're an ubermensch. I feel terrible saying this, but any chance they aren't actually miscarriages?
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MizPiz posted:I feel terrible saying this, but any chance they aren't actually miscarriages? Tellingly, the term in Hebrew for miscarriage is "natural abortion".
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MizPiz posted:I feel terrible saying this, but any chance they aren't actually miscarriages? But it's all the fault of the liberals, who are trying to nullify his 4.0+ GPA.
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coyo7e posted:she may or may not be dying her hair to match the number of M-C's What
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Merdifex posted:I mean, this is what things look like in his mind: Wait a minute. I have no idea what MIRI is, but I'm guessing HPMOR is Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, and judging by the words "friendship" and "alicorn"... is the entirety of the Fiction in his world Harry Potter and My Little Pony fanfic?
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Just your average fat white chick with hair dyed six colors and a penchant for pony cartoons and anime, who married your average neckbeard tea partier. I actually got curious just now and the guy's at his normal thing again. quote:Now I am not saying that the flag itself has not been the calling sign of some racists, but lets be honest here, the flag is just that... a flag.
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Thinky Whale posted:Wait a minute. I have no idea what MIRI is, but I'm guessing HPMOR is Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, and judging by the words "friendship" and "alicorn"... is the entirety of the Fiction in his world Harry Potter and My Little Pony fanfic? I believe the MIRI is the Big Yud's incredibly unproductive research institute.
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Its fun to look through their staff page and see a bunch of people with no real qualifications to be performing research. Then again its a research institute for sci-fi fantasy AI, as opposed to AI research most anywhere else.
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Thinky Whale posted:Wait a minute. I have no idea what MIRI is, but I'm guessing HPMOR is Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, and judging by the words "friendship" and "alicorn"... is the entirety of the Fiction in his world Harry Potter and My Little Pony fanfic? HPMOR is indeed HPMOR. "Alicorn" is one of the LessWrong crowd. "Friendship Is Optimal" is a My Little Pony rationalist fanfic, and let me assure you it's every bit the literary standard that foreshadows. MIRI is the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, formerly the Singularity Institute, formerly the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence, which is Eliezer Yudkowsky's charity. One of the two things he actually ever achieved, out of all the many projects he ever started, was to get Peter Thiel to give him money on a regular basis. The other was to finish his fanfic. lancemantis posted:Its fun to look through their staff page and see a bunch of people with no real qualifications to be performing research. Ask SolTerrasa, in the now-dead LessWrong Mock Thread. Real AI researchers aren't so keen on these bozos. This is only on-topic in that LW gave the neoreactionaries somewhere to hang out and talk to other people - for a few years it was basically the only place you'd read them outside their own little shittiness sphere. The NRx also drove LW to poo poo with vote brigading, driving off lots and lots of relatively-saner participants, which was punished by ... one of the NRx sock accounts getting banned. divabot has a new favorite as of 09:24 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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coyo7e posted:Right now he's working at Gamestop and has a wife who's having her fourth or fifth miscarriage (she may or may not be dying her hair to match the number of M-C's) because, well, being a cashier at gamestop is apparently the epitome of solid family-starting time when you're an ubermensch. We be dropping babby with no delay Toxic sperm donor what you got to say?
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Of all people, Yudkowsky kind of had the best reaction to Moldbug, in that he's the only one who realized that Moldbug might not be approaching his political thinking with 100% pure open-minded empiricism.
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divabot posted:HPMOR is indeed HPMOR. "Alicorn" is one of the LessWrong crowd. "Friendship Is Optimal" is a My Little Pony rationalist fanfic, and let me assure you it's every bit the literary standard that foreshadows. Thanks! I feel both more baffled and more enlightened for knowing all of these things.
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lancemantis posted:Its fun to look through their staff page and see a bunch of people with no real qualifications to be performing research. It's just a weird thing about being entirely loving wrong: when your only sources have no real credentials.
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coyo7e posted:This has always been one of the stand-out points I can come up with against most of the weird pseudo-science stats I see: I look up their cited journals and research institutes and stuff, and they're always, always some 20 year-old website (often with broken hit counters) which cite one or two super extreme-case "scientists" (who are often dead and have very little outside of essentially self-published bibliographies, and lists of retreats and encounters and training exercises which literally span 30 years and 200+ entries). Why would you need credentials from a bunch of obviously Jewish/Muslim/SJW Controlled universities? They don't know poo poo about Harry Potter. They don't know poo poo about anything
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